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What exactly are we doing with Ihart?

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What exactly are we doing with Ihart?

Politics - We signed him so Thibs is forced to play him to justify the contract
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We are playing him to showcase him for a trade
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He's been kinda hurt/not 100% and we are giving him a chance to play himself back to normal productivity
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As bad as he's played Thibs still trusts him more than Sims
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Some other reason - please elaborate.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#41 » by KnixtapeH20 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:48 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:I mean, despite the 3 blocks not a strong showing today.

He's a volley ball player. And by that I mean he sets the shots for someone w hops to actually do something.

He's literally tall for no reason. Keith van horn had more lift :banghead:
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#42 » by The Lamma » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:02 pm

He was alright until Breen started calling him HartenSHtein. All downhill from there
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#43 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:45 pm


This is what he thinks of this thread
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#44 » by DrPampiloni » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:21 pm

Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#45 » by 8516knicks » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:46 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#46 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:47 pm

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DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


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Not sure if the tunnel vision is on the players or on the coach... Yes we seem to have a one-and-done offense (part of our collapse problem) but it almost seems like what guys are being told to do, what they are told is a good shot etc. You see a little less of selfish ball when you have IQ/Obi together but if I had to guess there is a team philosophy of "Rather a bad shot than a bad pass" because everything hinges on defense. Fourneir is an unselfish player, he is riding pine right now.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#47 » by rajajackal » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:59 pm

The Lamma wrote:He was alright until Breen started calling him HartenSHtein. All downhill from there

lmao he told breen to pronounce it that way. but he's been saying "shtein" since the very beginning of the season...meaning i agree with your take
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#48 » by RHODEY » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:00 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


We are very happy we were able to get Brunson away from Luka's ball domination. We now have a possible allstar PG who may not be "John Stockton" but is more than adequate playmaking option for us. I agree that RJ could be a little more unselfish but I'm happy that we have him as our third option when he'd easily be a 2nd option for the Mavericks.

Regarding your trade suggestion for Powell, no thanks...we are not in the business of acquiring your one dimensional volley ball players. Have a good day sir.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#49 » by DrPampiloni » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:40 am

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DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


We are very happy we were able to get Brunson away from Luka's ball domination. We now have a possible allstar PG who may not be "John Stockton" but is more than adequate playmaking option for us. I agree that RJ could be a little more unselfish but I'm happy that we have him as our third option when he'd easily be a 2nd option for the Mavericks.

Regarding your trade suggestion for Powell, no thanks...we are not in the business of acquiring your one dimensional volley ball players. Have a good day sir.


I will take Spencer Dinwiddie and Christian Wood over RJ any day. Heck even Tim Hardaway JR is at least a functional basketball player.

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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#50 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:44 am

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DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


We are very happy we were able to get Brunson away from Luka's ball domination. We now have a possible allstar PG who may not be "John Stockton" but is more than adequate playmaking option for us. I agree that RJ could be a little more unselfish but I'm happy that we have him as our third option when he'd easily be a 2nd option for the Mavericks.

Regarding your trade suggestion for Powell, no thanks...we are not in the business of acquiring your one dimensional volley ball players. Have a good day sir.
Sure you would, in Dimwiddie's own words, MAvs are not playing winning basketball.

I will take Spencer Dinwiddie and Christian Wood over RJ any day. Heck even Tim Hardaway JR is at least a functional basketball player.

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Post#51 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:05 am

Sims -8 in 35 mins, Hart +9 in 17.
Sims stats don't lie, he played relatively well. I like our bigs, think we should keep all of them!
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Post#52 » by DrPampiloni » Wed Feb 1, 2023 11:32 am

You guys still don't see it, do you?
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Post#53 » by Fat Kat » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:36 pm

Who can hold onto the ball better. IHart or Nerlens?
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Post#54 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:19 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:You guys still don't see it, do you?

See how **** terrible he is? Yea we all see it
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#55 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:53 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:You guys still don't see it, do you?

See how **** terrible he is? Yea we all see it


Hart2Hart is quite the dynamic duo
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#56 » by DrPampiloni » Mon Apr 3, 2023 1:47 pm

Remember me?

Do you still not believe in the prophet Isaiah? (you are welcome for that nickname too)

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Post#57 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 1:55 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:Remember me?

Do you still not believe in the prophet Isaiah? (you are welcome for that nickname too)



That fall at the end was funny though
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Post#58 » by Galou » Mon Apr 3, 2023 2:11 pm

A lot of these old threads from the past year has terrible takes. :lol:
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Post#59 » by DrPampiloni » Mon Apr 3, 2023 2:29 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:Remember me?

Do you still not believe in the prophet Isaiah? (you are welcome for that nickname too)



That fall at the end was funny though


You mean scary right? Could have derailed your whole post-season push. :(
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Post#60 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 3:16 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:Remember me?

Do you still not believe in the prophet Isaiah? (you are welcome for that nickname too)



That fall at the end was funny though


You mean scary right? Could have derailed your whole post-season push. :(


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