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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#41 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:50 pm

RJ sucks, he is a an albatross contract and is no good.

Hey lets trade him for one of the better 2-way wings.

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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#42 » by robillionaire » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:52 pm

mpharris36 wrote:RJ sucks, he is a an albatross contract and is no good.

Hey lets trade him for one of the better 2-way wings.

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facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#43 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:53 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:RJ sucks, he is a an albatross contract and is no good.

Hey lets trade him for one of the better 2-way wings.

Knicks Fans...


facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks


you're ridiculous as well :lol:
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#44 » by ag3 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:58 pm

We are going to show these aholes who is boss tonight.

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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#45 » by god shammgod » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:17 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:RJ sucks, he is a an albatross contract and is no good.

Hey lets trade him for one of the better 2-way wings.

Knicks Fans...


facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks


you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#46 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:49 pm

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So when are the Nets trading us Mikal?


What are you offering? The price goes up tomorrow


What do you think the price should be?


Someone allegedly offered 4 1st rounders, which goes to show you how badly the Gobert trade ruined the market
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#47 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:54 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks


you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


I agree that I don't see RJ spending his entire career as a knick. They put him in the Donovan Mitchell trade...they will probably put him in the next star trade as well. That also doesn't mean he's an albatross contract. Because a 22 year old putting up 20 ppg is far from an albatross. Do you want him to be more EFF yes...the defensive drop off is probably the most concerning because you can live with below avg EFF on off if he was also a + 2 way wing.

I just don't ever seeing that contract becoming an albatross since the CBA currently is likely to end in 2023-24. As that contract kicks in the NBA salary cap is going to continue to skyrocket with the new TV deal.

There are rumors the projected cap in 2025 is going to be like 171 MM. A 25-30% of the cap will be around 50 MM. RJ's salary will be in the mid 20's around then.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#48 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:55 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
What are you offering? The price goes up tomorrow


What do you think the price should be?


Someone allegedly offered 4 1st rounders, which goes to show you how badly the Gobert trade ruined the market


It all depends on the quality of the picks though. I heard the team was memphis. That team is younng and Morant/Bane/JJJ aren't going anywhere and that pick during that stretch will probably be never lower than mid 20's. I'm sure that can always change and it depends if they were all completely unprotected...which is unlikely as well.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#49 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:16 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
What are you offering? The price goes up tomorrow


What do you think the price should be?


Someone allegedly offered 4 1st rounders, which goes to show you how badly the Gobert trade ruined the market


That was probably Memphis
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#50 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:17 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks


you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#51 » by robillionaire » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:19 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


I agree that I don't see RJ spending his entire career as a knick. They put him in the Donovan Mitchell trade...they will probably put him in the next star trade as well. That also doesn't mean he's an albatross contract. Because a 22 year old putting up 20 ppg is far from an albatross. Do you want him to be more EFF yes...the defensive drop off is probably the most concerning because you can live with below avg EFF on off if he was also a + 2 way wing.

I just don't ever seeing that contract becoming an albatross since the CBA currently is likely to end in 2023-24. As that contract kicks in the NBA salary cap is going to continue to skyrocket with the new TV deal.

There are rumors the projected cap in 2025 is going to be like 171 MM. A 25-30% of the cap will be around 50 MM. RJ's salary will be in the mid 20's around then.


I could see RJ spending his entire career as a knick or at least most of it. I wouldn't say he's an albatross contract either but if we're at this point next season and there's still no improvement I would say we're rapidly approaching albatross territory. But there's still time to turn it around.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#52 » by Buttah304 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:19 pm

Fun game of how many 3s are we gonna give up.

Dinwiddie: 3-5
Harris: 5-9
Mikal: 2-5
Johnson: 4-7
DFS: 2-4
Thomas: 1-3
Mills: 2-4

19-20 threes sounds about right.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#53 » by robillionaire » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:21 pm

Buttah304 wrote:Fun game of how many 3s are we gonna give up.

Dinwiddie: 3-5
Harris: 5-9
Mikal: 2-5
Johnson: 4-7
DFS: 2-4
Thomas: 1-3
Mills: 2-4

19-20 threes sounds about right.


Yeah I'm scared of this team. Everybody is a shooter. We don't guard the perimeter. Recipe for disaster. We'd be better off trying to stop KD Kyrie and Harden than a bunch of dudes who shoot 40%+ from 3
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#54 » by god shammgod » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:24 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


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durant is gone. i care nothing about the nets. i'm rooting for the knicks. plus it's no longer fun to troll you guys with. :D

i do like some of their players though. and they're actually in a good position to trade for a star too if one becomes available. we'll be competing with them for one.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#55 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:28 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


I agree that I don't see RJ spending his entire career as a knick. They put him in the Donovan Mitchell trade...they will probably put him in the next star trade as well. That also doesn't mean he's an albatross contract. Because a 22 year old putting up 20 ppg is far from an albatross. Do you want him to be more EFF yes...the defensive drop off is probably the most concerning because you can live with below avg EFF on off if he was also a + 2 way wing.

I just don't ever seeing that contract becoming an albatross since the CBA currently is likely to end in 2023-24. As that contract kicks in the NBA salary cap is going to continue to skyrocket with the new TV deal.

There are rumors the projected cap in 2025 is going to be like 171 MM. A 25-30% of the cap will be around 50 MM. RJ's salary will be in the mid 20's around then.


The new CBA may change a lot of things. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. Some of the legacy contracts that are questionable may look like bargains. I wonder if that is part of the front offices thinking, and even with picking up Hart and likely paying him.
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Post#56 » by rajajackal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:28 pm

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So when are the Nets trading us Mikal?


What are you offering? The price goes up tomorrow

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Post#57 » by Buttah304 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:28 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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god shammgod wrote:
i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


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durant is gone. i care nothing about the nets. i'm rooting for the knicks. plus it's no longer fun to troll you guys with. :D

i do like some of their players though. and they're actually in a good position to trade for a star too if one becomes available. we'll be competing with them for one.


I still believe they want Pascal. I know they were attempting to acquire him to appease KD but I think as an organization they are huge fans of his. They can absolutely put together a package. Toronto - having gathered intel on their players value could in theory can 10+ firsts for Siakam, FVV, OG and Trent. Just tear it down and build with Mr. Overrated Barnes
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#58 » by rajajackal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
facts, only an amnesty clause is getting us out of this one, get used to him folks


you're ridiculous as well :lol:


i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.

yeah once the league finds out he's trash, brunson's potential to contend as a knick is down the drain. we gotta unload him while people still believe he's just young and not simply bad at basketball
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#59 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:32 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i do think if you're gonna trade him you need to do it soon. you might have some teams who still think he's young and he can grow. but another year like this and he likely will become an albatross. and let's be honest, he's the obvious guy out of our trio who will be traded to improve the team. i don't see rj spending his career as a knick.


I agree that I don't see RJ spending his entire career as a knick. They put him in the Donovan Mitchell trade...they will probably put him in the next star trade as well. That also doesn't mean he's an albatross contract. Because a 22 year old putting up 20 ppg is far from an albatross. Do you want him to be more EFF yes...the defensive drop off is probably the most concerning because you can live with below avg EFF on off if he was also a + 2 way wing.

I just don't ever seeing that contract becoming an albatross since the CBA currently is likely to end in 2023-24. As that contract kicks in the NBA salary cap is going to continue to skyrocket with the new TV deal.

There are rumors the projected cap in 2025 is going to be like 171 MM. A 25-30% of the cap will be around 50 MM. RJ's salary will be in the mid 20's around then.


The new CBA may change a lot of things. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. Some of the legacy contracts that are questionable may look like bargains. I wonder if that is part of the front offices thinking, and even with picking up Hart and likely paying him.



Could be...all new deals come with some kind of sticker shock. I'm sure Daniel Jones will as well. But the point is agents aren't dumb they are also negotiating parts of what the salary cap will be during the life of the contract.

RJ deal next year in terms of the cap might be a bit high...but the remaining year of that after the new CBA kicks in will look perfectly fine even if his production stays relatively the same.

He needs to get his defense back to league avg levels though.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks vs Barclays Nets (Mon, 7:30PM) 

Post#60 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:34 pm

rajajackal wrote:
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thebuzzardman wrote:
So when are the Nets trading us Mikal?


What are you offering? The price goes up tomorrow

rj barrett, isaiah hartenstein, and our 2025 pick unprotected


You got any more 1st rounders? Lmao
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