What Happened To Star-J Barrett?

[Knicks Byke]

“hes only 34”


soon.

[8516knicks]

That's probably true. Not dissimilar to Cam. I disagree with Melo about what his ideal role would be but he's not becoming what we hoped he would here.

yeah, he's not gonna be a 3 & d guy. he's a better player than cam but he has a less useful skill set if he's not a star. (although let's see if cam can actually shoot a decent percentage all year long before we call him a success story.) that's what people sometimes don't understand. people were pushing back when i said everybody would want og and nobody really wants rj. but og has elite role player skills, rj does not. so if rj is not gonna be a guy who can be one of your top scoring options, he's worth a lot less around the league than a guy who you can plug into just about any team and make work. just being better, if you think that about rj, doesn't really matter. he's not a guy who fits any role that great. he's probably a "jack of all trades, master of none" bench guy who you play a lot when he has it going and you bench quickly when he doesn't.

I have a hard time pinning down what his ideal role would be because I don't really have a comp. He has a unique skillset and I don't necessarily mean unique in a good way. I can't recall a player with such strength and power going downhill who is also so limited once he gets there. It's a conundrum.

At Duke I compared him with fellow Dukie Corey Maggette. Maybe that's it

Had to look him up as I've only seen film of him but another one hand (left?) power player from NYC with similar stats from the past - Walter Berry???

17.5 and 5.4 rebs for 2 years but out of the league after 5.

[HarthorneWingo]

yeah, he's not gonna be a 3 & d guy. he's a better player than cam but he has a less useful skill set if he's not a star. (although let's see if cam can actually shoot a decent percentage all year long before we call him a success story.) that's what people sometimes don't understand. people were pushing back when i said everybody would want og and nobody really wants rj. but og has elite role player skills, rj does not. so if rj is not gonna be a guy who can be one of your top scoring options, he's worth a lot less around the league than a guy who you can plug into just about any team and make work. just being better, if you think that about rj, doesn't really matter. he's not a guy who fits any role that great. he's probably a "jack of all trades, master of none" bench guy who you play a lot when he has it going and you bench quickly when he doesn't.

I have a hard time pinning down what his ideal role would be because I don't really have a comp. He has a unique skillset and I don't necessarily mean unique in a good way. I can't recall a player with such strength and power going downhill who is also so limited once he gets there. It's a conundrum.

At Duke I compared him with fellow Dukie Corey Maggette. Maybe that's it

Had to look him up as I've only seen film of him but another one hand (left?) power player from NYC with similar stats from the past - Walter Berry???

17.5 and 5.4 rebs for 2 years but out of the league after 5.

Damn, Walter Berry. A blast from the past. As I recall, Walter Berry was a power forward in a small forward's body. He really couldn't shoot from outside. He was tough in college. Very difficult to stop underneath the hoop.

[Kampuchea]

Robot is back to malfunctioning.

Not sure any RJ backers can really say anything now? Maybe blame headaches?

IDK if I'm a RJ backer but I think he was making 3s before the headache debacle.

[3toheadmelo]

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literally the same dumb shots he took in duke. look at the weaknesses portion. so much wide open team mates he missed.

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[duetta]

I have a hard time pinning down what his ideal role would be because I don't really have a comp. He has a unique skillset and I don't necessarily mean unique in a good way. I can't recall a player with such strength and power going downhill who is also so limited once he gets there. It's a conundrum.

At Duke I compared him with fellow Dukie Corey Maggette. Maybe that's it

Had to look him up as I've only seen film of him but another one hand (left?) power player from NYC with similar stats from the past - Walter Berry???

17.5 and 5.4 rebs for 2 years but out of the league after 5.

Damn, Walter Berry. A blast from the past. As I recall, Walter Berry was a power forward in a small forward's body. He really couldn't shoot from outside. He was tough in college. Very difficult to stop underneath the hoop.

Played on the same teams with Mullin and Jackson. I remember him well in college.

[HarthorneWingo]

Had to look him up as I've only seen film of him but another one hand (left?) power player from NYC with similar stats from the past - Walter Berry???

17.5 and 5.4 rebs for 2 years but out of the league after 5.

Damn, Walter Berry. A blast from the past. As I recall, Walter Berry was a power forward in a small forward's body. He really couldn't shoot from outside. He was tough in college. Very difficult to stop underneath the hoop.

Played on the same teams with Mullin and Jackson. I remember him well in college.

Didn't St. John's make the Final Four with that team?

[Deeeez Knicks]

I’m still with you RJ! Horrible game…but he will bounce back.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I’m still with you RJ! Horrible game…but he will bounce back.

I would have to say my faith is dwindling every month this season. We're only two months in so, he has time.

It's rather sickening at this point how people are rejoicing that the kid is struggling. Like anyone here thought he was a superstar. Most RJ fans recognize what he is and are willing to give him time. These milk lickers that are puffed up about him playing poorly can eat a bag of moldy dicks.

[NowWHYcee7]

IDK I'm kinda done with RJ. Too much inconsistency. If the returns are right, trade him. Quickley too.

[Chanel Bomber]

I’m still with you RJ! Horrible game…but he will bounce back.

I would have to say my faith is dwindling every month this season. We're only two months in so, he has time.

It's rather sickening at this point how people are rejoicing that the kid is struggling. Like anyone here thought he was a superstar. Most RJ fans recognize what he is and are willing to give him time. These milk lickers that are puffed up about him playing poorly can eat a bag of moldy dicks.

Nobody wants to see him fail. We all want him to play well. He can have some good games but overall he hasn't played well and it's up to you to accept that reality or live in denial.

It is admittedly not totally unpleasant to see some of his obnoxious fans (not referring to people like Deeeez) scramble for answers. The line was crossed on many occasions and there's sweet irony in seeing their arrogance backfire. But that's them, not RJ.

The only lesson here is on how people choose to handle disagreement but I have no illusions regarding that.

[F N 11]

I think the knee is bothering him sadly.

[KNICKFAN374]

I think the knee is bothering him sadly.

If that's the case, he should just shut it down for a while, we go with an 8 man rotation or we dust off Fournier and go with an 8 1/2 man rotation. I strongly believe that not only will we be fine, but we will also be better off, just my opinion. In this scenario, giving IQ, Hart & DDV more minutes is only a good thing, a very good thing.

[Synciere]

Team Villain gaining soldiers....

[Jalen Bluntson]

I’m still with you RJ! Horrible game…but he will bounce back.

I would have to say my faith is dwindling every month this season. We're only two months in so, he has time.

It's rather sickening at this point how people are rejoicing that the kid is struggling. Like anyone here thought he was a superstar. Most RJ fans recognize what he is and are willing to give him time. These milk lickers that are puffed up about him playing poorly can eat a bag of moldy dicks.

Nobody wants to see him fail. We all want him to play well. He can have some good games but overall he hasn't played well and it's up to you to accept that reality or live in denial.

It is admittedly not totally unpleasant to see some of his obnoxious fans (not referring to people like Deeeez) scramble for answers. The line was crossed on many occasions and there's sweet irony in seeing their arrogance backfire. But that's them, not RJ.

The only lesson here is on how people choose to handle disagreement but I have no illusions regarding that.

I only live in reality. I don't have to scramble for answers either because I have been a realist about him the entire time. So have most of the people who have to deal with his detractors trolling. Those same people would have given up on Randle 5 years ago. Ironically, most of the RJ hate club are Randle fans today.

The only lesson here is that a bunch of jerk offs root against our players to satisfy some weak ass whack ass agenda.

[KNICKFAN374]

Team Villain gaining soldiers....

I'm here almost 13 years, I read a bunch but as you can see, I don't post much; look at my past posts, I have felt this way about RJ since he joined us. To me, he has maxed out, and his max is not very good. No where near a good enough ISO player to play ISO ball, not close.

[cgmw]

Seems pretty obvious to me that RJ only thrives when Randle struggles.

Randle playing All-NBA = Chanel RJ

[KNICKFAN374]

Seems pretty obvious to me that RJ only thrives when Randle struggles.

Randle playing All-NBA = Chanel RJ

I don't disagree with this, and I'm not a fan of Randle at all, however, Randle is by far a better ISO player. I'd get rid of both of them if I could, but if I had to keep one, I'd keep Randle over RJ.

[FrozenEnvelope]

There is a lot to like with RJ. As a 3rd banana with his production and salary, he is not bad. I think some are still having unrealistic expectations. He's a good player. He's not a star and won't be an All-Star. His offense and shooting are up and down and will likely be that way his entire career. I do have to say his defense has been much improved this season. And he's a hard worker, good teammate, stays out of trouble and has played well in some big playoff games.

[Synciere]

Seems pretty obvious to me that RJ only thrives when Randle struggles.

Randle playing All-NBA = Chanel RJ

Agreed. Though it is odd since All NBA Randle in the past and this year has been a BEAST passing the ball. He and Jalen are neck and neck in assists. The Athletic just had a write up about Julius and his passing. If only we had great/elite shooters...