Lawsuit Claims James Dolan Pressured Woman Into Sex

[Jalen Bluntson]

This Is my point though. She feels obligated ten years later to make an unsubstantiated claim of this behavior but, when it happens she said and do nothing and CONTINUED to work for him after?

I can totally believe her for one thing but, I can't see her having a shred of evidence to prove any of it ten years later. Furthermore, her actions at the time it happened make little to no sense unless, she truly needed the money she was paid for the gig that turned sour. Which brings into question the validity of her claims and the ability to prove them. Add in the fact that this lawyer has other clients/cases against Dolan and it reeks of BS. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE.

I'm going to try to refrain from making assumptions. But I don't think the gap is that uncommon when you account for mental damages and fear. It's pretty common for people to speak out about sexual assault years after it happened.

Maybe she wasn't in a position to go through with a lawsuit? Maybe she was scared trying do do a David versus Goliath. We are talking about massage therapist versus a multibillionare media mongol.

All I am saying is that I don't think the 10 year gap proves anything.

I never said it proves anything. I never even said it didn't happen. I believe it could have. That's irrelevant in court. Just like the whole she was scared to come forward doesn't prove anything. He's still a media mogul so that point is moot.

I'm a victim of childhood molestation. I know full well what the damage is. I was a teenage drug addict. I started getting high at 11 years old to cope. It wasn't a one off and I didn't get paid. So I am speaking from experience. I have zero proof. So that's why I never did anything about it. So, if she has any proof, I hope it nails him to a fuqqing wall. I hope he gets raped in prison too!

I will wait to see actual details of her case before making any judgement. Just putting the other side out there because that's what lawyers will do. Way to early for anything to sway opinion.

[cgf]

In a situation like this that probably means stuff like threats to get her fired & destroy her career.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking as well even though the articles didn't state that (it's still early).

Some might think "obligated" translates to "too much money to turn down". But it could also mean fear of getting fired, demoted, bullied, and/or defamation.

So she took the money and regrets it after? Fear of being defamed? State your case and get your lawsuit. You won't ever have to work again and, if you can prove it, will be completely exonerated.

Again...this is what any lawyer will fight in court. Where's the proof and why wait so long? I can believe he pushed himself on her and all of that but, that's not gonna fly in court.

Feels like you're glossing over the mental anguish of not just reliving something that you want to just put behind you and forget, but of having **** screaming that you're a liar and sending you death threats for risk their favorite sports teams' chances. Of having colleagues give you **** and calling what was your personal hell, "sleeping your way to the top". Often times having to change careers even if your perpetrator is no longer in position to have you blackballed.

It's a really horrible experience, and even if the money is great, there are a lot of victims who would rather just go on with their lives & support themselves on their own. Even if they don't just know they're right, but can prove it.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Yeah, this is what I was thinking as well even though the articles didn't state that (it's still early).

Some might think "obligated" translates to "too much money to turn down". But it could also mean fear of getting fired, demoted, bullied, and/or defamation.

So she took the money and regrets it after? Fear of being defamed? State your case and get your lawsuit. You won't ever have to work again and, if you can prove it, will be completely exonerated.

Again...this is what any lawyer will fight in court. Where's the proof and why wait so long? I can believe he pushed himself on her and all of that but, that's not gonna fly in court.

Feels like you're glossing over the mental anguish of not just reliving something that you want to just put behind you and forget, but of having **** screaming that you're a liar and sending you death threats for risk their favorite sports teams' chances. Of having colleagues give you **** and calling what was your personal hell, "sleeping your way to the top". Often times having to change careers even if your perpetrator is no longer in position to have you blackballed.

It's a really horrible experience, and even if the money is great, there are a lot of victims who would rather just go on with their lives & support themselves on their own. Even if they don't just know they're right, but can prove it.

Don't twist my words bro. I never glossed over a damn thing. See above post before you make anymore silly statements like that.

[cgf]

So she took the money and regrets it after? Fear of being defamed? State your case and get your lawsuit. You won't ever have to work again and, if you can prove it, will be completely exonerated.

Again...this is what any lawyer will fight in court. Where's the proof and why wait so long? I can believe he pushed himself on her and all of that but, that's not gonna fly in court.

Feels like you're glossing over the mental anguish of not just reliving something that you want to just put behind you and forget, but of having **** screaming that you're a liar and sending you death threats for risk their favorite sports teams' chances. Of having colleagues give you **** and calling what was your personal hell, "sleeping your way to the top". Often times having to change careers even if your perpetrator is no longer in position to have you blackballed.

It's a really horrible experience, and even if the money is great, there are a lot of victims who would rather just go on with their lives & support themselves on their own. Even if they don't just know they're right, but can prove it.

Don't twist my words bro. I never glossed over a damn thing. See above post before you make anymore silly statements like that.

I mean you kinda did in that post I quoted, but I saw your follow up that clarified after I posted. Was just saying that I know from personal experience that evidence isn't the only reason that keeps victims from speaking out against powerful people in their professional lives, since your post was kinda implying that the only reasons to wait were financial.

But again, I'm in agreement that we need to wait before we can add this to the "stuff it's worth judging Dolan for" pile. Just providing some of the explanations for why the 10 years really doesn't mean anything.

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[Jalen Bluntson]

Feels like you're glossing over the mental anguish of not just reliving something that you want to just put behind you and forget, but of having **** screaming that you're a liar and sending you death threats for risk their favorite sports teams' chances. Of having colleagues give you **** and calling what was your personal hell, "sleeping your way to the top". Often times having to change careers even if your perpetrator is no longer in position to have you blackballed.

It's a really horrible experience, and even if the money is great, there are a lot of victims who would rather just go on with their lives & support themselves on their own. Even if they don't just know they're right, but can prove it.

Don't twist my words bro. I never glossed over a damn thing. See above post before you make anymore silly statements like that.

I mean you kinda did in that post I quoted, but I saw your follow up that clarified after I posted. Was just saying that I know from personal experience that evidence isn't the only reason that keeps victims from speaking out against powerful people in their professional lives, since your post was kinda implying that the only reasons to wait were financial.

But again, I'm in agreement that we need to wait before we can add this to the "stuff it's worth judging Dolan for" pile. Just providing some of the explanations for why the 10 years really doesn't mean anything.

I clarified the stance I was taking in my very first post. These are things a lawyer will ask. If she has no proof, it is going to be even worse than any anguish she may have faced when it initially happened or whatever number of years it took her to come forward. I also added that she continued to work for him AND her lawyer already has failed cases against Dolan with other clients. It doesn't look good from jump. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE.

YOU made the mistake of making assumptions about my posts and, acting like you are the only person with experience in this matter...even though it is second hand. That's on you bro.

[cgf]

Don't twist my words bro. I never glossed over a damn thing. See above post before you make anymore silly statements like that.

I mean you kinda did in that post I quoted, but I saw your follow up that clarified after I posted. Was just saying that I know from personal experience that evidence isn't the only reason that keeps victims from speaking out against powerful people in their professional lives, since your post was kinda implying that the only reasons to wait were financial.

But again, I'm in agreement that we need to wait before we can add this to the "stuff it's worth judging Dolan for" pile. Just providing some of the explanations for why the 10 years really doesn't mean anything.

I clarified the stance I was taking in my very first post. These are things a lawyer will ask. If she has no proof, it is going to be even worse than any anguish she may have faced when it initially happened or whatever number of years it took her to come forward. I also added that she continued to work for him AND her lawyer already has failed cases against Dolan with other clients. It doesn't look good from jump. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE.

YOU made the mistake of making assumptions about my posts and, acting like you are the only person with experience in this matter...even though it is second hand. That's on you bro.

I feel silly going round and round, because I feel like we agree for the most part...

...but in the post I quoted you were glossing over all of that, which is why if a lawyer tries to do that, that will be the explanation. Her waiting and not immediately quitting just aren't very good evidence against the validity of her claims, if she has good evidence supporting them.

And I didn't assume anything, I just responded to the words that you wrote. So looks like you're the one assuming that you're the only one with 1st hand experience

[Jalen Bluntson]

The door is open now. There will be an investigation and a decision will be made as to if it is valid enough to move forward. I hope it didn't happen to her for obvious reason BUT, I hope she can prove it now that she opened this door for multiple reasons. FIRST AND FOREMOST being the fact that it will prevent others from speaking out if it goes south. Second, if she's lying? It can be cause to ignore future allegations no matter how true and, it could possibly embolden Dolan or other scumbags to continue to do these things. Lastly, we get away from Dolan after all these years.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I mean you kinda did in that post I quoted, but I saw your follow up that clarified after I posted. Was just saying that I know from personal experience that evidence isn't the only reason that keeps victims from speaking out against powerful people in their professional lives, since your post was kinda implying that the only reasons to wait were financial.

But again, I'm in agreement that we need to wait before we can add this to the "stuff it's worth judging Dolan for" pile. Just providing some of the explanations for why the 10 years really doesn't mean anything.

I clarified the stance I was taking in my very first post. These are things a lawyer will ask. If she has no proof, it is going to be even worse than any anguish she may have faced when it initially happened or whatever number of years it took her to come forward. I also added that she continued to work for him AND her lawyer already has failed cases against Dolan with other clients. It doesn't look good from jump. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE.

YOU made the mistake of making assumptions about my posts and, acting like you are the only person with experience in this matter...even though it is second hand. That's on you bro.

I feel silly going round and round, because I feel like we agree for the most part...

...but in the post I quoted you were glossing over all of that, which is why if a lawyer tries to do that, that will be the explanation. Her waiting and not immediately quitting just aren't very good evidence against the validity of her claims, if she has good evidence supporting them.

And I didn't assume anything, I just responded to the words that you wrote. So looks like you're the one assuming that you're the only one with 1st hand experience

Stop it dude. You jumped into an ongoing discussion and ran your mouth. You were wrong and all you had to do was read thread...that you were reading!

By doing so you assumed I glossed over things because you were ignorant. You spoke from a position of having second hand experience in these matters with someone who has ACTUAL experience. So you should "feel silly for going round and round" because you are wrong on all counts.

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[Meat]

These billionaires can’t help but being scumbags, eh?

All morality is just peasant morality

[Meat]

“she felt obligated to submit to sex with him.”

What does this mean?

It means he prob threw some threats out there. Fire you, ruin your career and who knows what else. It’s clear from who he surrounds himself with, Dolan don’t like to be told no in any capacity and you can kinda tell he’s vindictive

[Stannis]

It would be hilarious if Dolan's **** band/song is what gets him the axe.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I will never understand the need to do these things when hookers will let you have sex with them with no problems. I know it's a power thing but, I will never understand how anyone can even formulate that line of thought. People are fuggin evil!

[cgf]

I clarified the stance I was taking in my very first post. These are things a lawyer will ask. If she has no proof, it is going to be even worse than any anguish she may have faced when it initially happened or whatever number of years it took her to come forward. I also added that she continued to work for him AND her lawyer already has failed cases against Dolan with other clients. It doesn't look good from jump. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE.

YOU made the mistake of making assumptions about my posts and, acting like you are the only person with experience in this matter...even though it is second hand. That's on you bro.

I feel silly going round and round, because I feel like we agree for the most part...

...but in the post I quoted you were glossing over all of that, which is why if a lawyer tries to do that, that will be the explanation. Her waiting and not immediately quitting just aren't very good evidence against the validity of her claims, if she has good evidence supporting them.

And I didn't assume anything, I just responded to the words that you wrote. So looks like you're the one assuming that you're the only one with 1st hand experience

Stop it dude. You jumped into an ongoing discussion and ran your mouth. You were wrong and all you had to do was read thread...that you were reading!

By doing so you assumed I glossed over things because you were ignorant. You spoke from a position of having second hand experience in these matters with someone who has ACTUAL experience. So you should "feel silly for going round and round" because you are wrong on all counts.

But you hadn't made that post at the time I quoted you. When I pressed the quote button all you had said was you were trying to make the case Dolan's lawyers would make, so I was explaining why that should be a weak & ignorant defense.

...and again, you're making an awfully big (and inaccurate) assumption with the bolded. Just because someone knows people who have been abused by powerful sports figures and powerful people in their professional world, doesn't mean that that person doesn't also have also 1st hand experience from their childhood...dick.

[Im Coming Home]

If Dolan sells the team because of this, I hope its to another rich owner who isn't afraid to spend money. I don't wanna end up like poverty teams who has cheap owners who don't wanna pay.

[Stannis]

I never said it proves anything. I never even said it didn't happen. I believe it could have. That's irrelevant in court. Just like the whole she was scared to come forward doesn't prove anything. He's still a media mogul so that point is moot.

I'm a victim of childhood molestation. I know full well what the damage is.

I will wait to see actual details of her case before making any judgement. Just putting the other side out there because that's what lawyers will do. Way to early for anything to sway opinion.

TBH, Not sure what we are arguing about.

Sorry you went through all that. I was fortunate enough to never go through sexual assault or molestation. But I had a relative who did and it obviously messed with him. He never said anything out of fear and because he thought nobody would believe a child.

For this case. It was adults and in a work environment. So there could be witnesses or other evidence, even 10 years later.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I feel silly going round and round, because I feel like we agree for the most part...

...but in the post I quoted you were glossing over all of that, which is why if a lawyer tries to do that, that will be the explanation. Her waiting and not immediately quitting just aren't very good evidence against the validity of her claims, if she has good evidence supporting them.

And I didn't assume anything, I just responded to the words that you wrote. So looks like you're the one assuming that you're the only one with 1st hand experience

Stop it dude. You jumped into an ongoing discussion and ran your mouth. You were wrong and all you had to do was read thread...that you were reading!

By doing so you assumed I glossed over things because you were ignorant. You spoke from a position of having second hand experience in these matters with someone who has ACTUAL experience. So you should "feel silly for going round and round" because you are wrong on all counts.

But you hadn't made that post at the time I quoted you. When I pressed the quote button all you had said was you were trying to make the case Dolan's lawyers would make, so I was explaining why that should be a weak & ignorant defense.

...and again, you're making an awfully big (and inaccurate) assumption with the bolded. Just because someone knows people who have been abused by powerful sports figures and powerful people in their professional world, doesn't mean that that person doesn't also have also 1st hand experience from their child...dick.

Had you known what you were talking about before opening your mouth this would be over already. If you could have simply admitted you were wrong in multiple posts it was proven since then, this would be over already. Sorry to hear your daughter went through this. So did mine just this year with her boss but not to this extent. SO DID I but to a much worse extent because I was a **** child! You witnessed it second hand. We all went through it personally. Why you wanna have a pissing contest and keep dragging it out when all you to do was admit you were wrong is really fuggin EMBARRASSING for you at this point. If we were in a room together you would be regretting this entire exchange so drop it and step the fuq off ass hole! Ignored. Don't respond. Walk away.

The desire to be right about shyt at any and all costs will get people fuqqed up in this world. Lucky they only pull this shyt on the internet.

[Stannis]

If Dolan sells the team because of this, I hope its to another rich owner who isn't afraid to spend money. I don't wanna end up like poverty teams who has cheap owners who don't wanna pay.

There's absolutely no way a "cheap owner" ever buys the Knicks. There's too much overhead and moving parts with MSG + NY Rangers.

[Im Coming Home]

If Dolan sells the team because of this, I hope its to another rich owner who isn't afraid to spend money. I don't wanna end up like poverty teams who has cheap owners who don't wanna pay.

There's absolutely no way a "cheap owner" ever buys the Knicks. There's too much overhead and moving parts with MSG + NY Rangers.

They could be cheap in terms of not wanting to pay luxury tax and all that stuff that Dolan blindly pays. I know that they would need to be rich to buy the team itself and stuff though.