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What (or who) is the missing piece?

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Who is the missing star?

Donovan Mitchell
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26%
Lauri Markkanen
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11%
Zach LaVine
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2%
Dejounte Murray
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16%
Other
28
45%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#41 » by Jeffrey » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:06 am

I would first talk to Thibs cuz the last thing we need is to trade someone so he can replace Fournier's arse on that chair.

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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#42 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:09 am

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Why not trade Gobert? Anything's possible but. Highly doubtfu he would be the odd man out and not true that they can't keep him.
I think Kat over Gobert because they can get more back and I think Kat makes more.


I don't care anymore. We ain't getting him so it doesn't matter.

I think we could...for something like Randle and Hart.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#43 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:12 am

RHODEY wrote:
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RHODEY wrote:I think Kat over Gobert because they can get more back and I think Kat makes more.


I don't care anymore. We ain't getting him so it doesn't matter.

I think we could...for something like Randle and Hart.


Then what? We let iHart go? We still have to pay OG/Brunson. Sig bet he's not a Knick next year.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#44 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:28 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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I don't care anymore. We ain't getting him so it doesn't matter.

I think we could...for something like Randle and Hart.


Then what? We let iHart go? We still have to pay OG/Brunson. Sig bet he's not a Knick next year.

Who knows...but I do feel the the FO knows Randle has to go.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#45 » by cgf » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:44 am

KOA wrote:Lauri is a really underrated name on this list.
Provides a lot of versatility and super efficient scoring


He's a worse defender than Randle and does nothing for our lack of creation outside of Brundle. He's a great finisher, but his % of assisted FGs is Grimes-like.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#46 » by cgf » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:45 am

Jeffrey wrote:I would first talk to Thibs cuz the last thing we need is to trade someone so he can replace Fournier's arse on that chair.

"Areeeee youuuuu going to play _______ if we trade him?!"


If we get him guys who are no better than Fournier than we deserve for him to plant them on the bench *shrug*
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#47 » by Guano » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:57 am

What are we doing here

None of those first 4 options gives us a legit shot at a chip
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#48 » by BrOnXKing1 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:12 am

We need another player this year bc this team is painfully stagnant without Brunson on the court. Why not make Dejounte Murray trade, you could always flip him in the future in a bigger trade
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#49 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:33 am

Y'all need another defensive wing that can take some minutes from OG.
Playing OG 40+ minutes is a very bad idea. Trust me.
He's not durable at all. Thibs will regret it.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#50 » by joec32033 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:16 am

I voted other.

Mitch, Grimes and picks for Bane and Brandon Clarke
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#51 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:48 pm

dakomish23 wrote:If you don't care about the idiocy then go get Draymond to address many of the things we've all discussed need fixing


Yeah I mean this type of a move is an outside the box idea that when the ideal is not there and the almost to somewhat ideal is just too expensive that may need some thought. High risk, high reward. This would be a Trevor Bauer like move (for those that are baseball fans). Looks ugly from out outset but starts looking much better as you grind through and realize that the better looking ones are going anywhere, aren't gettable or are just too expensive (in money or assets) to be worth it.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#52 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:49 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Y'all need another defensive wing that can take some minutes from OG.
Playing OG 40+ minutes is a very bad idea. Trust me.
He's not durable at all. Thibs will regret it.


Well according to (way too many?) Knick fans we already have that guy. Quentin Grimes.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#53 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:50 pm

Guano wrote:What are we doing here

None of those first 4 options gives us a legit shot at a chip


Any of those 4 makes us much more talented (and talent plays and is one of the pre-reqs for winning in the NBA). Plus the assets that Rose has been accumulating will stop being assets as time passes. Some as soon as the trade deadline ends. Like I said, any of these guys will become assets. You actually can trade guys you trade for. Any of these guys would have very high value so if the Knicks can manage to convince the other team that their assets are enough (you have folks in the industry that have said they doubt the Knicks have enough, just want to let that elephant out the bag) then you do it even if it's not a guarantee to get you a title this year.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#54 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:33 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Prime Kawhi or Paul George. Can’t get one of those, so try Mikal Bridges.

Bridges
Grant
Cam Johnson

might even do the trick. Mentioning superstar names seems stupid.

KAT might be the one. Embiid of course. Doncic. Bane. Vassell. SGA. All not available.

Finney-Smith
Lonnie Walker
Keldon Johnson
Marcus Smart
Kris Dunn+Clarkson

would all help. Too bad Brooklyn wouldn’t deal with us.

From that list, Markkanen is clearly the best choice and I’d love to get him.
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#55 » by 8516knicks » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:41 pm

Bruce Brown is the best target fit for THIS season I've heard yet. D and O and ball handling yet seemingly affordable (more so than others mentioned) . :nod:
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#56 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:47 pm

8516knicks wrote:Bruce Brown is the best target fit for THIS season I've heard yet. D and O and ball handling yet seemingly affordable (more so than others mentioned) . :nod:


Is it me or does Bruce Brown give anyone else Josh Hart vibes
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#57 » by cgf » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:51 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
8516knicks wrote:Bruce Brown is the best target fit for THIS season I've heard yet. D and O and ball handling yet seemingly affordable (more so than others mentioned) . :nod:


Is it me or does Bruce Brown give anyone else Josh Hart vibes


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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#58 » by cgf » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:54 pm

1. Fournier + DiVincenzo + Sims + 24 NYK FRP + DAL FRP + WSH FRP
Bogdanovic (ATL) + Caruso + Williams (CHI)

2. Flynn + cash + 25 BKN SRP
Tate (HOU)

3. Achiuwa + cash + 24 CLE/UTA SRP
Richards (CHA)


S: Brunson - Grimes - Anunoby - Randle - Hartenstein
B: Caruso - Bogdanovic - Hart - Williams - Robinson
D: McBride - Tate - Richards
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#59 » by dakomish23 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:46 pm

moocow007 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:If you don't care about the idiocy then go get Draymond to address many of the things we've all discussed need fixing


Yeah I mean this type of a move is an outside the box idea that when the ideal is not there and the almost to somewhat ideal is just too expensive that may need some thought. High risk, high reward. This would be a Trevor Bauer like move (for those that are baseball fans). Looks ugly from out outset but starts looking much better as you grind through and realize that the better looking ones are going anywhere, aren't gettable or are just too expensive (in money or assets) to be worth it.


Do you mean not ideal in terms of perception?

Backup PF
Backup C
Another much needed high level facilitator
Another guy who can guard big wings
Stretch big

Checks off a lot of what we've been saying we need

Guano wrote:What are we doing here

None of those first 4 options gives us a legit shot at a chip


Draymond does
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Re: What (or who) is the missing piece? 

Post#60 » by 8516knicks » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:01 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
8516knicks wrote:Bruce Brown is the best target fit for THIS season I've heard yet. D and O and ball handling yet seemingly affordable (more so than others mentioned) . :nod:


Is it me or does Bruce Brown give anyone else Josh Hart vibes


It's you. :lol:

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