GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Moderators: Deeeez Knicks, HerSports85, j4remi, NoLayupRule, GONYK, dakomish23, mpharris36, Jeff Van Gully
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- Jose7
- RealGM
- Posts: 35,501
- And1: 7,209
- Joined: Apr 02, 2007
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Where is the thibs aplogy thread?
I am first in line.
But my randle and RJ slander will
Live forever
I am first in line.
But my randle and RJ slander will
Live forever
BAF Suns
Chris Paul / Patrick Beverley / Shamorie Ponds
Buddy Hield / Timothy Luwawu / Stanley Johnson
Kendrick Nunn / Matisse Thybulle / Darius Miller
RJ Barrett / Kyle Kuzma / Dwayne Bacon
DeAndre Jordan / Kenrich Williams / DJ Wilson
Chris Paul / Patrick Beverley / Shamorie Ponds
Buddy Hield / Timothy Luwawu / Stanley Johnson
Kendrick Nunn / Matisse Thybulle / Darius Miller
RJ Barrett / Kyle Kuzma / Dwayne Bacon
DeAndre Jordan / Kenrich Williams / DJ Wilson
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
nykballa2k4
- RealGM
- Posts: 31,104
- And1: 7,458
- Joined: Jul 26, 2004
- Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
If DDV hits 9 3's again I think we get that W.
Will be interesting to see the Pacers - defined by offense go against what is left of our starting 5 (Only Brun and DDV remain) who are defined by defense.
Will be interesting to see the Pacers - defined by offense go against what is left of our starting 5 (Only Brun and DDV remain) who are defined by defense.
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
Stand up to all hate
Stand up to Jewish hate
Stand up to all hate
Stand up to Jewish hate
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- K_ick_God
- Site Admin

- Posts: 80,879
- And1: 43,336
- Joined: Oct 10, 2003
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
I'm sure OG and QG won't play. I wonder if Thibs even lets Brunson into the trainer's room. What's nagging you Jalen? Well, this and that. Sounds like you're Probable. We'll put you down as Probable. Brunson walks sadly back to his locker.
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- stuporman
- RealGM
- Posts: 32,121
- And1: 21,241
- Joined: Nov 27, 2005
- Location: optimistic skeptical realist
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
cgmw wrote:
I agree except to note that it’s actually a very useful heuristic that tends to hold true 99.9% of the time. It just so happens that Jalen appears to be in that 00.1% with (but not quite at) Steph.
That's terrible math you're working with there. If we look at the history of best players on their team that won titles we can look at the past handful of them and there are at clearly two of them that fall into this category, Curry and Jokic. So much so that Jokic was a second round pick!
That right there blows up your made up stat of 00.1%, Curry alone blows it up but I brought another example to pound the point home. It's forum fodder. That BS stat is more accurate if applied to players that looked the part but never fulfilled the part, there are hundreds of them and few do it.
Brunson has beaten that heuristic up in HS, in college and is well on his way to doing it in the NBA.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Capn'O wrote:cgmw wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
It's men who are not athletes often promoting these stupid stereotypes.
Is it really a stereotype if it’s statistically true? Guys built like Jalen or like Steph have not seen this kind of success very often. Almost never, actually. If your job is NBA scouting, then that kind of statistical probability isn’t a “stupid stereotype,” it’s just one factor you need to consider. On the other end, we’ve sure seen enough Olowokandis and Sam Bowies to know that large size isn’t a guarantee either.
You're justifying a stance from several years ago. People today are still not seeing how good The People's MVP is even as he busts their ass right in front of them. That's what this is referring to. It's wild. If an NBA scout is watching today and saying Brunson isn't good enough to lead a team they need to be fired. Really, after the 2022 playoffs.
Just because Brunson is built like an angry housewife doesn't excuse the normals for not appreciating his brilliance.
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
nykballa2k4
- RealGM
- Posts: 31,104
- And1: 7,458
- Joined: Jul 26, 2004
- Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
KnicksGod wrote:I'm sure OG and QG won't play. I wonder if Thibs even lets Brunson into the trainer's room. What's nagging you Jalen? Well, this and that. Sounds like you're Probable. We'll put you down as Probable. Brunson walks sadly back to his locker.
I just want to see Toppin vs Toppin.
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
Stand up to all hate
Stand up to Jewish hate
Stand up to all hate
Stand up to Jewish hate
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- TKKnicks1
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,819
- And1: 6,172
- Joined: Jun 28, 2002
- Location: Dallas
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
We will need OG for this one or else I see a loss. OG on Pascal. Hart on Haliburton. Brunson on Hield. Their bench is pretty weak so that's our time to take advantage. Should be a tough one.
Fire Thibs!
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
SuperflyKnick
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,453
- And1: 1,171
- Joined: Feb 24, 2003
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks don't have the offensive firepower to stay with the Pacers. Loss.
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just plain can’t tell this team is goooooood
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- WaltFrazier
- RealGM
- Posts: 34,476
- And1: 31,927
- Joined: Jan 21, 2006
- Location: Ontario Canada
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
TKKnicks1 wrote:We will need OG for this one or else I see a loss. OG on Pascal. Hart on Haliburton. Brunson on Hield. Their bench is pretty weak so that's our time to take advantage. Should be a tough one.
Yeah Pascal might be too tricky for Achiuwa.
Is Hali still on minute restriction tomorrow?
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
cgmw
- RealGM
- Posts: 22,545
- And1: 10,445
- Joined: Jul 23, 2003
- Location: Winning now since 1973
- Contact:
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
stuporman wrote:cgmw wrote:
I agree except to note that it’s actually a very useful heuristic that tends to hold true 99.9% of the time. It just so happens that Jalen appears to be in that 00.1% with (but not quite at) Steph.
That's terrible math you're working with there. If we look at the history of best players on their team that won titles we can look at the past handful of them and there are at clearly two of them that fall into this category, Curry and Jokic. So much so that Jokic was a second round pick!
That right there blows up your made up stat of 00.1%, Curry alone blows it up but I brought another example to pound the point home. It's forum fodder. That BS stat is more accurate if applied to players that looked the part but never fulfilled the part, there are hundreds of them and few do it.
Brunson has beaten that heuristic up in HS, in college and is well on his way to doing it in the NBA.
I know better than to get into a meaningless math argument with you, but if you think the existence of Brunson, Curry and Jokic means that there’s a a good statistical probability of becoming elite at basketball with sub-par athleticism, then I highly advise you to lace them up and get out there old man! Look at Lebron! It’s not too late!
Look, I’m complimenting the man. It is in fact true that just about every NBA player let alone superstar possesses absolutely elite physical attributes. We’ve seen plenty of exceptions in the past—multiple MVP Steve Nash comes to mind— but it’s still exceptionally rare. The cognitive shortcut to visibly identify humans likely good at basketball is not “stupid.” It is in fact a highly evolved function of the magical pre-frontal cortex, and probably for good reason.
It’s no knock on Jalen to point out his unusual body type to success ratio. If anything it’s a testament to his incredible mental game, hard work, and years of determination.
"Sell the team. Sell the team. Sell the team."
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
cgmw wrote:stuporman wrote:cgmw wrote:I agree except to note that it’s actually a very useful heuristic that tends to hold true 99.9% of the time. It just so happens that Jalen appears to be in that 00.1% with (but not quite at) Steph.
That's terrible math you're working with there. If we look at the history of best players on their team that won titles we can look at the past handful of them and there are at clearly two of them that fall into this category, Curry and Jokic. So much so that Jokic was a second round pick!
That right there blows up your made up stat of 00.1%, Curry alone blows it up but I brought another example to pound the point home. It's forum fodder. That BS stat is more accurate if applied to players that looked the part but never fulfilled the part, there are hundreds of them and few do it.
Brunson has beaten that heuristic up in HS, in college and is well on his way to doing it in the NBA.
I know better than to get into a meaningless math argument with you, but if you think the existence of Brunson, Curry and Jokic means that there’s a a good statistical probability of becoming elite at basketball with sub-par athleticism, then I highly advise you to lace them up and get out there old man! Look at Lebron! It’s not too late!
Look, I’m complimenting the man. It is in fact true that just about every NBA player let alone superstar possesses absolutely elite physical attributes. We’ve seen plenty of exceptions in the past—multiple MVP Steve Nash comes to mind— but it’s still exceptionally rare. The cognitive shortcut to visibly identify humans likely good at basketball is not “stupid.” It is in fact a highly evolved function of the magical pre-frontal cortex, and probably for good reason.
It’s no knock on Jalen to point out his unusual body type to success ratio. If anything it’s a testament to his incredible mental game, hard work, and years of determination.
Brunson is this lady

This is the rest of the NBA

Looks aren't everything
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Adelheid
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,746
- And1: 7,965
- Joined: Jul 10, 2014
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Players - just like every people on earth - are judged on first impression, and first impressions last, whether they are right or wrong
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
SuperflyKnick wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks don't have the offensive firepower to stay with the Pacers. Loss.
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just plain can’t tell this team is goooooood
TheBuzzardMan is neither fiend nor fowl, but a rare genetic mutation of the buzzard species that produced the evolutionary fork named Buzzaro Vulgaris, a divergent species of message board poster that feeds on the carrion known as a battered fan base.

Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- Jalen Bluntson
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,625
- And1: 27,353
- Joined: Nov 07, 2012
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Clyde_Style wrote:SuperflyKnick wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks don't have the offensive firepower to stay with the Pacers. Loss.
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just plain can’t tell this team is goooooood
TheBuzzardMan is neither fiend nor fowl, but a rare genetic mutation of the buzzard species that produced the evolutionary fork named Buzzaro Vulgaris, a divergent species of message board poster that feeds on the carrion known as a battered fan base.
Where he fuq did you find this?
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- Jalen Bluntson
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,625
- And1: 27,353
- Joined: Nov 07, 2012
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
cgmw wrote:stuporman wrote:cgmw wrote:I agree except to note that it’s actually a very useful heuristic that tends to hold true 99.9% of the time. It just so happens that Jalen appears to be in that 00.1% with (but not quite at) Steph.
That's terrible math you're working with there. If we look at the history of best players on their team that won titles we can look at the past handful of them and there are at clearly two of them that fall into this category, Curry and Jokic. So much so that Jokic was a second round pick!
That right there blows up your made up stat of 00.1%, Curry alone blows it up but I brought another example to pound the point home. It's forum fodder. That BS stat is more accurate if applied to players that looked the part but never fulfilled the part, there are hundreds of them and few do it.
Brunson has beaten that heuristic up in HS, in college and is well on his way to doing it in the NBA.
I know better than to get into a meaningless math argument with you, but if you think the existence of Brunson, Curry and Jokic means that there’s a a good statistical probability of becoming elite at basketball with sub-par athleticism, then I highly advise you to lace them up and get out there old man! Look at Lebron! It’s not too late!
Look, I’m complimenting the man. It is in fact true that just about every NBA player let alone superstar possesses absolutely elite physical attributes. We’ve seen plenty of exceptions in the past—multiple MVP Steve Nash comes to mind— but it’s still exceptionally rare. The cognitive shortcut to visibly identify humans likely good at basketball is not “stupid.” It is in fact a highly evolved function of the magical pre-frontal cortex, and probably for good reason.
It’s no knock on Jalen to point out his unusual body type to success ratio. If anything it’s a testament to his incredible mental game, hard work, and years of determination.
People disrespecting Brunsons physical attributes are lost. Dude is strong as fuq and tougher than most. His footwork is top of the league worthy and without physical abilities he wouldn't be able to move like he does. He's not tall. He's not jumping out of the gym. Those are not the only two things that get counted as physical attributes. But hey, he doesn't look like Cam Reddish? Ridiculous.
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:SuperflyKnick wrote:
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just plain can’t tell this team is goooooood
TheBuzzardMan is neither fiend nor fowl, but a rare genetic mutation of the buzzard species that produced the evolutionary fork named Buzzaro Vulgaris, a divergent species of message board poster that feeds on the carrion known as a battered fan base.
Where he fuq did you find this?

Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
- Jalen Bluntson
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,625
- And1: 27,353
- Joined: Nov 07, 2012
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Clyde_Style wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
TheBuzzardMan is neither fiend nor fowl, but a rare genetic mutation of the buzzard species that produced the evolutionary fork named Buzzaro Vulgaris, a divergent species of message board poster that feeds on the carrion known as a battered fan base.
Where he fuq did you find this?
Calm down Mr Cronkite.
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Where he fuq did you find this?
Calm down Mr Cronkite.

Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
cgf
- RealGM
- Posts: 35,101
- And1: 14,461
- Joined: Jul 01, 2008
-
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
Easy win 
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
Brunson: So what are you paid to do?
Hart: Run around like an idiot during the game and f*** s*** up!
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
-
Clyde_Style
- RealGM
- Posts: 71,855
- And1: 69,930
- Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Re: GT: Knicks vs Cornball Pacers @ MSG, Thursday Feb 01 730 PM EST
cgf wrote:Easy win
Your man card is in the mail










