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[KnixinSix]

Make life easy. Go get Tyus Jones and run it back

Brunson Jones
DDV Deuce
OG Hart
Randle Bogs
Hartenstein Mitch Precious

pick 3 out of 4, cant have all.

og/ihart/bogs/standard mle
and to a lesser extent precious as well.

Let Precious, Burks walk. Don't guarantee Bogs. Get Tyus for MLE @ 4 years. Trade all or most of the picks forward... let's rock and roll.

I'm still hoping for finally that big move.

-Knicks are very close and many players want to play here now.
-We have accumulated many assets that are tradeable be it picks (8-9 FRPs in next 5 years), Players (McBride, Mitchell Robinson, possibly Randle depending on the target) and salary filler (Bogs).

If a superstar is out there available to be had we need to be extremely aggressive in getting that player. Bridges is NOT a superstar but he is such a great fit he is the only guy that I would also put in the top tier list just bc of his potential impact in a Thibs system (but keeping Randle would be preferred in this scenario)

[HopelessKnick]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

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Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

[HopelessKnick]

If you have 2 superstars....they better really really be superstars...not like all-stars masquerading as superstars making superstar money.

Overall I like the new rules though...it really ensures an even distribution of talent league-wide...no more superteams...no more very lopsided seasons etc. You should expect 5-6 title contenders every season with no one knowing who ends up winning it.

[sol537]

If you have 2 superstars....they better really really be superstars...not like all-stars masquerading as superstars making superstar money.

Overall I like the new rules though...it really ensures an even distribution of talent league-wide...no more superteams...no more very lopsided seasons etc. You should expect 5-6 title contenders every season with no one knowing who ends up winning it.

This is why if Brunson and Randle take team friendly deals, it could increase our chances at a chip tremendously…

[sol537]

pick 3 out of 4, cant have all.

og/ihart/bogs/standard mle
and to a lesser extent precious as well.

Let Precious, Burks walk. Don't guarantee Bogs. Get Tyus for MLE @ 4 years. Trade all or most of the picks forward... let's rock and roll.

I'm still hoping for finally that big move.

-Knicks are very close and many players want to play here now.
-We have accumulated many assets that are tradeable be it picks (8-9 FRPs in next 5 years), Players (McBride, Mitchell Robinson, possibly Randle depending on the target) and salary filler (Bogs).

If a superstar is out there available to be had we need to be extremely aggressive in getting that player. Bridges is NOT a superstar but he is such a great fit he is the only guy that I would also put in the top tier list just bc of his potential impact in a Thibs system (but keeping Randle would be preferred in this scenario)

I tend to agree. But only if the right guy becomes available at the right price. Can’t mortgage our future for the wrong guys (see Brooklyn… see PHX… see Chicago)

[lloydj]

Knicks Trade: Mitchell Robinson ($15,681,81, $14,318,182, $12,954,546)

OKC Trade: Josh Giddy ($6,587,040, $8,352,367, $11,142,057) & Jaylin Williams ($2,000,000.00,& $2,019, 000.00)

Brunson/Deuce/Giddy/?
Devi/Hart/Burke/Giddy
O.G./Hart/Giddy/Burke
Randall/O.G./Hart/Precious
IHart/ Free Agent or Draft Center /Precious/Sims

second time you posted this bum ass trade lol

he don't even have giddey as part of the rotation after. he's 3rd string. so why did you trade for him ?

this thread is always the worst. no offense but 90 percent of the ideas in here are just terrible.

Another talker who does not know basketball. Giddy can play 4 position on the court, I have him in three. Deuce and Burke will not play before Giddy. Son!, use your brain for good, not bad quotes.

[dakomish23]

Make life easy. Go get Tyus Jones and run it back

Brunson Jones
DDV Deuce
OG Hart
Randle Bogs
Hartenstein Mitch Precious

pick 3 out of 4, cant have all.

og/ihart/bogs/standard mle
and to a lesser extent precious as well.

Let Precious, Burks walk. Don't guarantee Bogs. Get Tyus for MLE @ 4 years. Trade all or most of the picks forward... let's rock and roll.

I can live with that and do everything possible to get a PF / C bench guy in the draft

[god shammgod]

second time you posted this bum ass trade lol

he don't even have giddey as part of the rotation after. he's 3rd string. so why did you trade for him ?

this thread is always the worst. no offense but 90 percent of the ideas in here are just terrible.

Another talker who does not know basketball. Giddy can play 4 position on the court, I have him in three. Deuce and Burke will not play before Giddy. Son!, use your brain for good, not bad quotes.

you put him 3rd on your chart genius, not me. you put duece in front of him. and yes you put him at 3 positions but you put him 3rd string at 2 of them and 4th string at another. maybe with your vast basketball knowledge you haven't noticed but 3rd string guys don't really play.

[DaGawd]

second time you posted this bum ass trade lol

he don't even have giddey as part of the rotation after. he's 3rd string. so why did you trade for him ?

this thread is always the worst. no offense but 90 percent of the ideas in here are just terrible.

Another talker who does not know basketball. Giddy can play 4 position on the court, I have him in three. Deuce and Burke will not play before Giddy. Son!, use your brain for good, not bad quotes.

giddy can play 1 position..he doesn’t defend well enough to shoot well enough to be anything other than a distributer

[Wildcat]

Charlotte is learning. Knicks for clicks.

[KnixinSix]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

-This is why Randle probably doesn't get extended unless it is a more favorable CAA type contract.

- This is also why moves might need to be made prior to June 28

- I think the league doesn't like the big free agent chatter to happen publicly until AFTER the finals. As soon as finals finish stuff will become public very quickly on who might be available for trade.

[Spree2Houston]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

Basically what myself and a few others have been saying for a while. You can’t build with 3 stars anymore. The CBA won’t allow it. We can put those Donovan Mitchell and Brandon Ingram pipe dreams to rest now.

[KnixinSix]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

Basically what myself and a few others have been saying for a while. You can’t build with 3 stars anymore. The CBA won’t allow it. We can put those Donovan Mitchell and Brandon Ingram pipe dreams to rest now.

Brunson, OG and Mitchell can fit if they sign for less than the max. Bridges has 2 years left on a favorable deal at around 25M a year. Markenen has 1 year left at 18M. Murray has like 3 years around 25M. The issue is getting one of the 50M already a year players like KAT.

[Big FatKAT]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

I believe it also illustrates how valuable Bridges contract is...less than 25 mill for next 2 seasons allows for so much more flexibility than Randles 1 season of available cap flexbility

[KnixinSix]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

I believe it also illustrates how valuable Bridges contract is...less than 25 mill for next 2 seasons allows for so much more flexibility than Randles 1 season of available cap flexbility

Absolutely. Bridges contract is extremely favorable relative to his value.

[Synciere]

second time you posted this bum ass trade lol

he don't even have giddey as part of the rotation after. he's 3rd string. so why did you trade for him ?

this thread is always the worst. no offense but 90 percent of the ideas in here are just terrible.

Another talker who does not know basketball. Giddy can play 4 position on the court, I have him in three. Deuce and Burke will not play before Giddy. Son!, use your brain for good, not bad quotes.

But he doesn't play any of those positions well. That's why he's on the block; his team is literally better with him off the floor.

[Synciere]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

Bogs can't be traded with other players????

[mpharris36]

https://www.youtube.com/live/

Watch on YouTube

?si=V5fDgIvFv8-zgfxA

Thanks for providing the links. I recommend everybody watch this. The new CBA is super punitive and restrictive in many situations. Some take aways from this talk:

1)Bojan: If the Knicks guarantee his contract by 28th of june he will be a 19mill. expiring. If they partially guarantee his contract it will be a 2mill. contract. In any case, the knicks cannot aggregate Bojan's deal with any other deal--say for example Mitch's contract for a star player. They can only trade that contract by itself.

2)In Marks' opinion OKC is rather unlikely to offer Ihart a 4year/80mill. contract because in 2 years SGA and the rest will be looking for extensions and having Hart on the books could severely hamper them.

3)Knicks will likely keep OG with a deal approximating 4years/140mill. They will tend a qualifying offer to Precious and see if he comes up with something.

4)IHart is probably going to stay at 4/72. There is no opportunity for giving him an opt-out after 1 year. If he signs that deal the earliest opt-out would be after the second season.

5)Overall it is going to be much more difficult to assemble many attractive assets on a single team. The restrictions are crazy...for example if you are a second Apron team your draft pick will be frozen in the middle-term future, you can't use the MLE.....like the luxury tax will be the least of your problems.

6)Which brings me to the 6th a final conclusion: Getting someone like KAT should be almost out of the question. If you have a guy making 55mill. he better be a good defender, high IQ guy and true superstar. Same goes for Randle....he would only make sense to keep longterm if his contract is really modest. Essentially under the new CBA you can build a solid roster around a superstar duo but much more difficult under a trio. For example if the Knicks go after another all-star/superstar they would essentially have to trade Randle somewhere down the line if they don't want to be operationally crippled.

Bogs can't be traded with other players????

If we go over the 2nd tax apron. I think there is a possibility we go over the 2nd arpon if we resign OG and Ihart to large deals and keep everyone else.

[spree2kawhi]

Free agency opens on June 30? I think I have this date right.

So do trades happen before or after?

trades can happen right now, nothing stopping it. (as long as the player is not playing in finals)
renegotiating with own free agents is day after final day of finals.
talking to free agents of other teams is june 30th.

Its just a unwritten rule (that occasionally is broken) to not do a trade during the playoffs. Once the playoffs end trades start to trickle in.

What’s the trade deadline for then? Not that I don’t believe you - I do - but it’s strange.

[douggood]

trades can happen right now, nothing stopping it. (as long as the player is not playing in finals)
renegotiating with own free agents is day after final day of finals.
talking to free agents of other teams is june 30th.

Its just a unwritten rule (that occasionally is broken) to not do a trade during the playoffs. Once the playoffs end trades start to trickle in.

What’s the trade deadline for then? Not that I don’t believe you - I do - but it’s strange.

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q104

When the trade deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended4, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.

The prohibition on trades lasts until the day following the team's final game of the season (see question number 101), although playoff teams are allowed to trade players that are not on their playoff roster the day after the regular season ends.