OT: Clinton or Bush?

[thebuzzardman]

Keep an eye on this, if true, and in light of the first assassination attempt and the security breakdowns.

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Deep state tipped him off, naturally

[spree8]

Keep an eye on this, if true, and in light of the first assassination attempt and the security breakdowns.

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Deep state tipped him off, naturally

[MrDollarBills]

Keep an eye on this, if true, and in light of the first assassination attempt and the security breakdowns.

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Deep state tipped him off, naturally

He made an enemy out of Taylor Swift's cult yesterday by posting on Truth Social that he hates her.

Within 3 hours, someone tried to kill him.

Choose your battles wisely folks. Don't throw rocks at the wasps nest.

If Donald wants to keep tempting fate, he should call Beyoncé the b word next. Mar A Lago might end up being turned into a smoldering crater.

[MrDollarBills]

Clearly, the guy is an ass hole that should be in prison for trying to kill someone. F*ck his leanings.

I think we can all agree on that.

Now, do you like Corona, or are you a craft beer guy?

I like all types of alcoholic elixirs, like a true red-blooded American! LMAO
Modelo > Corona, but I'm not above either. Modelo with a lime is my jam.
Nice scotch/bourbon on the rocks for weddings and bigger celebrations.
Cabernet/merlot with a nice steak dinner.

Say no to Mexican beers replacing American beers

Obviously just kidding. Mexico has a brewing heritage at least as long as the USA, possibly longer.

Mexicans don't drink piss water like us Yanks

[Pointgod]

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Deep state tipped him off, naturally

I'm not sure I should go down this rabbit hole, but which of these happened most recently? Most recent year please.

[spree8]

Deep state tipped him off, naturally

I'm not sure I should go down this rabbit hole, but which of these happened most recently? Most recent year please.

Why does that matter? They didn’t just stop, I’m sure we’ll know more in the future when it’s declassified. I didn’t make that list tho, if I did there would be a lot more lol. I suppose you could add Wiki Leaks, Snowden, Twitter Files, Facebook/Zuc admitting censorship, etc.

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I'm not sure I should go down this rabbit hole, but which of these happened most recently? Most recent year please.

Why does that matter? They didn’t just stop, I’m sure we’ll know more in the future when it’s declassified. I didn’t make that list tho, if I did there would be a lot more lol. I suppose you could add Wiki Leaks, Snowden, Twitter Files, Facebook/Zuc admitting censorship, etc.

If you're going to convince people that the lying hasn't stopped and that it's an ongoing pattern, then an example in the last few years would be very helpful. The most recent example would be best.

Otherwise, you're just posting a collection of outliers. This is the difference between a legitimate argument and an attempt to push disinformation.

Even the people who dispute man-made climate change can make a list like you made, or posted, and they do it fairly often usually quite a bit longer and it can even sound convincing, at first glance anyway, without examination.

The point is, for something to be true, just making a list isn't enough. Lists needs to be examined and reviewed. A step back must be taken, and questions have to be asked. My asking when the last big lie happened was just my first step towards review. Without a proper and thorough review, we know almost nothing.

Ruby RIdge, for example. From the government's point of view, that was a mistake and not how to handle that kind of situation. In fact, that's basically rule number one now in how to handle a protest.

Kent State killings too. Mistakes were made by the national guard and policy was changed as a result, such as limiting the hours on duty for any individuals standing guard, and not marching through protestors, but focusing on containment, not disbursal.

Those are examples of events that the government has made a sizable effort to not repeat, and NOT examples of the government lying to you.

[aggo]

anyone that votes for trump is an imbecile

[spree8]

I'm not sure I should go down this rabbit hole, but which of these happened most recently? Most recent year please.

Why does that matter? They didn’t just stop, I’m sure we’ll know more in the future when it’s declassified. I didn’t make that list tho, if I did there would be a lot more lol. I suppose you could add Wiki Leaks, Snowden, Twitter Files, Facebook/Zuc admitting censorship, etc.

If you're going to convince people that the lying hasn't stopped and that it's an ongoing pattern, then an example in the last few years would be very helpful. The most recent example would be best.

Otherwise, you're just posting a collection of outliers. This is the difference between a legitimate argument and an attempt to push disinformation.

Even the people who dispute man-made climate change can make a list like you made, or posted, and they do it fairly often usually quite a bit longer and it can even sound convincing, at first glance anyway, without examination.

The point is, for something to be true, just making a list isn't enough. Lists needs to be examined and reviewed. A step back must be taken, and questions have to be asked. My asking when the last big lie happened was just my first step towards review. Without a proper and thorough review, we know almost nothing.

Huh? The list is factual events that I’d recommend examining if you haven’t. I listed recent things, but I’m saying there’s likely more that hasn’t been declassified yet and might not considering funding on a lot of things comes from places like the National Endowment for Democracy so that hearings and investigations can’t be conducted on certain activities like they were in the 60’s and 70’s.

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Why does that matter? They didn’t just stop, I’m sure we’ll know more in the future when it’s declassified. I didn’t make that list tho, if I did there would be a lot more lol. I suppose you could add Wiki Leaks, Snowden, Twitter Files, Facebook/Zuc admitting censorship, etc.

If you're going to convince people that the lying hasn't stopped and that it's an ongoing pattern, then an example in the last few years would be very helpful. The most recent example would be best.

Otherwise, you're just posting a collection of outliers. This is the difference between a legitimate argument and an attempt to push disinformation.

Even the people who dispute man-made climate change can make a list like you made, or posted, and they do it fairly often usually quite a bit longer and it can even sound convincing, at first glance anyway, without examination.

The point is, for something to be true, just making a list isn't enough. Lists needs to be examined and reviewed. A step back must be taken, and questions have to be asked. My asking when the last big lie happened was just my first step towards review. Without a proper and thorough review, we know almost nothing.

Huh? The list is factual events that I’d recommend examining if you haven’t. I listed recent things, but I’m saying there’s likely more that hasn’t been declassified yet and might not considering funding on a lot of things comes from places like the National Endowment for Democracy so that hearings and investigations can’t be conducted on certain activities like they were in the 60’s and 70’s.

So, I examined one in my post above, and I said that review (which is basically the same thing) is absolutely essential to drawing any conclusions, and I asked you to examine the timeline, and despite all that, examination is your counter argument.

I think we're done here.

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A reminder of happier times:

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[spree8]

If you're going to convince people that the lying hasn't stopped and that it's an ongoing pattern, then an example in the last few years would be very helpful. The most recent example would be best.

Otherwise, you're just posting a collection of outliers. This is the difference between a legitimate argument and an attempt to push disinformation.

Even the people who dispute man-made climate change can make a list like you made, or posted, and they do it fairly often usually quite a bit longer and it can even sound convincing, at first glance anyway, without examination.

The point is, for something to be true, just making a list isn't enough. Lists needs to be examined and reviewed. A step back must be taken, and questions have to be asked. My asking when the last big lie happened was just my first step towards review. Without a proper and thorough review, we know almost nothing.

Huh? The list is factual events that I’d recommend examining if you haven’t. I listed recent things, but I’m saying there’s likely more that hasn’t been declassified yet and might not considering funding on a lot of things comes from places like the National Endowment for Democracy so that hearings and investigations can’t be conducted on certain activities like they were in the 60’s and 70’s.

So, I examined one in my post above, and I said that review (which is basically the same thing) is absolutely essential to drawing any conclusions, and I asked you to examine the timeline, and despite all that, examination is your counter argument.

I think we're done here.

Yea if you’re just dismissing all that, we are done.

[aggo]

Mark Zuckerberg uses steroids

Gynecomastia.

[Luv those Knicks]

Huh? The list is factual events that I’d recommend examining if you haven’t. I listed recent things, but I’m saying there’s likely more that hasn’t been declassified yet and might not considering funding on a lot of things comes from places like the National Endowment for Democracy so that hearings and investigations can’t be conducted on certain activities like they were in the 60’s and 70’s.

So, I examined one in my post above, and I said that review (which is basically the same thing) is absolutely essential to drawing any conclusions, and I asked you to examine the timeline, and despite all that, examination is your counter argument.

I think we're done here.

Yea if you’re just dismissing all that, we are done.

Cept, I was doing the opposite of dismissing.

[WargamesX]

I'm more worried that the cops are accidentally shooting bystanders because they chased a fare evader than any of this.

[Clyde_Style]

I hope at the end of this horrible decade of American politics, the end result is more of us realizing that we have a sh*t ton of stuff in common with each other than not and we can actually be great if we stick together and look out for one another.

I watched all four nights of the DNC (available on youtube), almost 20 hours worth, not something I would have ever expected myself to do. But I got hooked on the positive vibe which was oozing out of the gathering and it turned out to actually be good television entertainment which was also a surprise as it showed me the Democrats are getting their messaging act together.

There were great speeches, union members wearing Trump is a Scab T-shirts, Trump voters sharing why they're voting for Harris, tear jerker moments, mic drops, a range of emotions. I was impressed and felt uplifted by it. That's what a lot of people want now. Common ground should be the basis for unity, not agreeing on every single thing and I think that message is starting to resonate finally.

I like that Harris is making it very clear she's working for everyone, even those who don't vote for her. I know Biden said the same thing last campaign, but Harris is getting that point across better. She met with the Teamsters today and apparently it was a rocky meeting where she held her ground and said the same, i.e. she'd treat the Teamsters the same whether they endorse her or not. Not sure why they wouldn't give her the nod, but they're playing hard to get unlike the other large unions they are already behind Harris.

Anyway, Trump is a stochastic terrorist who wants to cremate his opponents. The contrast is biblical.

[Clyde_Style]

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The playbook is to throw bricks and cry wolf when someone throws one back. MAGAs are the ultimate snowflakes who will storm the capitol then weep about injustice. The only difference between those derps who cause mayhem and the talking heads on Fox is a clean shave and a tailor.

[Clyde_Style]

What is so comical about MAGAs moaning about anyone invoking Hitler in relationship to Trump is he is a White Nationalist who has openly stated he wants to be a dictator. And, no, that is not something you can pass off as a joke unless you're really dim. He said it.

One thing any human should learn by some point in their twenties is when someone tells you what they want, you better believe it.

And when they tell you what they are, don't believe it, i.e. if they must tell you they are kind instead of just being kind or say they are smart, then they are not smart.

The only book Trump kept on his night stand was Hitler's speeches. If you think that doesn't matter then maybe you deserve to live in a dictatorship.

[spree8]

So, I examined one in my post above, and I said that review (which is basically the same thing) is absolutely essential to drawing any conclusions, and I asked you to examine the timeline, and despite all that, examination is your counter argument.

I think we're done here.

Yea if you’re just dismissing all that, we are done.

Cept, I was doing the opposite of dismissing.

Well, you did call them a “collection of outliers”, and followed that up with calling it an “attempt to push disinformation”. That’s dismissive and false.

It was a funny meme but mostly true. Some of the things like you mentioned (Ruby Ridge) aren’t the best examples, but I mentioned there are so many more (including things like Operation Chaos, Co Intel Pro, Operation Midnight Climax, even forcing companies to poison alcohol during prohibition to prevent consumption, etc).

You asked for recent examples and I listed some (Wiki Leaks, Snowden/NSA spying, Twitter Files, Zuckerberg admitting to forced Facebook censorship, etc). Also from that list, there are current things like blocking the UAPDA, NDAA being allowed to arrest and detain citizens without due process, USA Freedom Act is alive still (just another version of the Patriot Act). They’re still not releasing JFK docs. But even things like The Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove are currently happening with no transparency. I also told you about the National Endowment for Democracy and that since the 80’s they’ve been able to “assume some former activities for the CIA”-Wiki.

It’s all there and there’s so much more past and present. When you break down each and every one of those things, and ask yourself, what’s the common theme here? You realize quite quickly that money, power, and control at any expense are at the root and that’s been the tale as old as time with all governments/rulers. That’s why I don’t trust them. Absolute power corrupts…