PG: Knicks vs. Mavericks (They Left Their Offense in Denver)

[3toheadmelo]

It was cool seeing Jerry west ball out at least. Hes too good to be getting DNPs

[Worst_to_First]

They need to establish who the 3rd option is between Bridges and OG, a hierarchy needs to be set between them.

well OG has been that...but when you start the game what 0-11? Kinda hard to keep force-feeding a 3rd option like that.

It should be whoever has the hot hand that game

I agree with this. To be honest, the only two guys I think we should force feed out of any funk are KAT and JB.

[mpharris36]

He threw down a reverse dunk near the end of the game, he just played like ass

I guess he was due for a bad game, he rarely has one

oh come on...thats bull

a standing dunk...you and I watched the whole game...we both saw it just wasn't "playing bad"

there was a lack of extra effort and energy all night. All the shots were short.

Dude was slipping and sliding all over the court from the beginning of the game. I didn’t see a lack of effort or energy from him, I saw a player having a bad night.

ok lets live in this world of "its just a bad night" even though we watched the same game and he clearly didn't have that extra explosion which makes OG such a dynamic player.

Why play a guy +40 mins when he had a bad night from the jump?

[TheGreenArrow]

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[mpharris36]

They need to establish who the 3rd option is between Bridges and OG, a hierarchy needs to be set between them.

well OG has been that...but when you start the game what 0-11? Kinda hard to keep force-feeding a 3rd option like that.

It should be whoever has the hot hand that game

I agree with this. To be honest, the only two guys I think we should force feed out of any funk are KAT and JB.

KAT and JB are the 1-2 punch they are the offensive hubs

the rest of the guys play off there production and play within the flow of the game. Whoever has it going should be the focus for more looks.

[mpharris36]

I think the toughest part of watching the Knicks this year is that once we go down big in the 1st quarter, I don't have any confidence they can fight their way back. We don't have the guys to force defensive stops and go on runs. We're really reliant on our offense and the three ball going down. Over time, we can win games this way, but we really might be reliant on Mitch to mix up our playing style.

Either way, this was a really ugly game we shouldn't have lost. Luka out, Gafford out...

a big reason is even if we claw into the lead we do it with the same 5 guys...so eventually they run out of gas.

[Fat Kat]

They were able to guard Brunson with a guard and not a big wing, so OG wasn’t able to take advantage of a midget. Plus he was cold and looked tired.

Dallas just didn’t miss. Even contested shots. Probably because we let them get comfortable. Oh well. Happy thanksgiving to all. Enjoy time with your family.

[HEZI]

oh come on...thats bull

a standing dunk...you and I watched the whole game...we both saw it just wasn't "playing bad"

there was a lack of extra effort and energy all night. All the shots were short.

Dude was slipping and sliding all over the court from the beginning of the game. I didn’t see a lack of effort or energy from him, I saw a player having a bad night.

ok lets live in this world of "its just a bad night" even though we watched the same game and he clearly didn't have that extra explosion which makes OG such a dynamic player.

Why play a guy +40 mins when he had a bad night from the jump?

To get back into rhythm and not lose confidence, maybe? I don’t know what Thibs reasoning for it was but OG also had a tough matchup with PJ Washington and the other Mavs. They were able to match his physicality on both ends. The matchup kind of played a role too. But I’m sure this road trip has the whole team fatigued right now. They will get to rest for Turkey day but it sucks that Friday is an early afternoon game. Will see how they bounce back

[whocares1]

They were able to guard Brunson with a guard and not a big wing, so OG wasn’t able to take advantage of a midget. Plus he was cold and looked tired.

Dallas just didn’t miss. Even contested shots. Probably because we let them get comfortable. Oh well. Happy thanksgiving to all. Enjoy time with your family.

I don’t think Brunson was aggressive enough in the first quarter. We needed someone that could score off the dribble the Mavs were playing serious defense.

[K_ick_God]

The Mikal focus is dumb. Play ball, you just blew out Denver, come out and step on the gas

Thibs is kind of negative

Ignore him and keep playing basketball, and Mikal will catch up

[The KnicksFix]

Thibs can only coach a specific type of team. Aka feed the post or attack the paint.
He can’t coach five out.
There’s a reason we won with Julius and then with Ihart setting picks for Brunson to get to the paint.
Thibs has no creativity. There is no plays or anything that he draws up once that doesn’t get going. He’s a loser and we are unfortunately stuck with him.

[mpharris36]

Dude was slipping and sliding all over the court from the beginning of the game. I didn’t see a lack of effort or energy from him, I saw a player having a bad night.

ok lets live in this world of "its just a bad night" even though we watched the same game and he clearly didn't have that extra explosion which makes OG such a dynamic player.

Why play a guy +40 mins when he had a bad night from the jump?

To get back into rhythm and not lose confidence, maybe? I don’t know what Thibs reasoning for it was but OG also had a tough matchup with PJ Washington and the other Mavs. They were able to match his physicality on both ends. The matchup kind of played a role too. But I’m sure this road trip has the whole team fatigued right now. They will get to rest for Turkey day but it sucks that Friday is an early afternoon game. Will see how they bounce back

lose confidence...he's not a 8 year old.

you are answering your own questions but just will never say a bad word about thibs even if its warranted. Its likely after a long road trip with 2 difficult altitude places like Utah and Denver...they looked fatigued.

So play your **** bench!!!!

[K_ick_God]

There are a lot of things you can get away with

Coming out on the road without energy and flatfooted and feeding Mikal and playing no defense is not one of those things

[BBALLER4FR]

Bridges... man can we just our losses with this guy? Donte was tenfold more bang for the buck. I'd give up Bridges right now for a decent player and a pick. We could at least maximize the impact of the player and use the pick to help maximize the rotation. Neither Bridges defense or his sporadic offense justifies the number of picks we gave up for him. Plus he's an upcoming FA? Fawk!!
His effort doesn't even match the team's efforts.

[robillionaire]

oh come on...thats bull

a standing dunk...you and I watched the whole game...we both saw it just wasn't "playing bad"

there was a lack of extra effort and energy all night. All the shots were short.

Dude was slipping and sliding all over the court from the beginning of the game. I didn’t see a lack of effort or energy from him, I saw a player having a bad night.

ok lets live in this world of "its just a bad night" even though we watched the same game and he clearly didn't have that extra explosion which makes OG such a dynamic player.

Why play a guy +40 mins when he had a bad night from the jump?

I’d have probably shut them all down most of the 4th quarter but he’s been our most consistent player since the day we traded for him he has the longest leash so he’s trusted to bounce back and he just never really did. Most of his points actually came in the 4th

The reason I don’t chalk it all up to fatigue is because we got punched in the mouth early. And they actually tried to go on a run in the 2nd and looked a little better, winning the 2nd half. Same story against Boston, Utah, Chicago. Probably others. Usually with fatigue they’d slow down and run out of gas as the game drags on. We scored like 10 points in the first 10 minutes of the game. I mean I guess it’s their 4th night out west but come on…

Something is wrong with the way this team has simply no showed at the start of several games that seems to be a problem deeper than fatigue. I think there are certain matchup issues or gameplan issues that they’ve been unable to figure out on both sides of the ball. it’s more than a bit concerning

[The KnicksFix]

ok lets live in this world of "its just a bad night" even though we watched the same game and he clearly didn't have that extra explosion which makes OG such a dynamic player.

Why play a guy +40 mins when he had a bad night from the jump?

To get back into rhythm and not lose confidence, maybe? I don’t know what Thibs reasoning for it was but OG also had a tough matchup with PJ Washington and the other Mavs. They were able to match his physicality on both ends. The matchup kind of played a role too. But I’m sure this road trip has the whole team fatigued right now. They will get to rest for Turkey day but it sucks that Friday is an early afternoon game. Will see how they bounce back

lose confidence...he's not a 8 year old.

you are answering your own questions but just will never say a bad word about thibs even if its warranted. Its likely after a long road trip with 2 difficult altitude places like Utah and Denver...they looked fatigued.

So play your **** bench!!!!

That’s the problem with some fans. They look at the game at face value rather than X’s and O’s, instead of watching the action of back screens, cuts they’re watching the ball handler

That’s the thing. You can’t argue with posters like this. They’ll just chalk up losses to “it was a bad game”

[robillionaire]

Bridges... man can we just our losses with this guy? Donte was tenfold more bang for the buck. I'd give up Bridges right now for a decent player and a pick. We could at least maximize the impact of the player and use the pick to help maximize the rotation. Neither Bridges defense or his sporadic offense justifies the number of picks we gave up for him. Plus he's an upcoming FA? Fawk!!
His effort doesn't even match the team's efforts.

Well maybe there’s a silver lining and he’s playing himself out of a large salary

[mpharris36]

Bridges... man can we just our losses with this guy? Donte was tenfold more bang for the buck. I'd give up Bridges right now for a decent player and a pick. We could at least maximize the impact of the player and use the pick to help maximize the rotation. Neither Bridges defense or his sporadic offense justifies the number of picks we gave up for him. Plus he's an upcoming FA? Fawk!!
His effort doesn't even match the team's efforts.

Donte is legit unplayable in Minny right now...

[robillionaire]

To get back into rhythm and not lose confidence, maybe? I don’t know what Thibs reasoning for it was but OG also had a tough matchup with PJ Washington and the other Mavs. They were able to match his physicality on both ends. The matchup kind of played a role too. But I’m sure this road trip has the whole team fatigued right now. They will get to rest for Turkey day but it sucks that Friday is an early afternoon game. Will see how they bounce back

lose confidence...he's not a 8 year old.

you are answering your own questions but just will never say a bad word about thibs even if its warranted. Its likely after a long road trip with 2 difficult altitude places like Utah and Denver...they looked fatigued.

So play your **** bench!!!!

That’s the problem with some fans. They look at the game at face value rather than X’s and O’s, instead of watching the action of back screens, cuts they’re watching the ball handler

That’s the thing. You can’t argue with posters like this. They’ll just chalk up losses to “it was a bad game”

Saying they are just tired isn’t X’s and O’s though. And our bench is not good. We could have played them and saved our guys some milage but the 18 year old French kid was not going to win this game for us. Hukporti is also overrated by the fandom. Kolek was sick. Our depth is very bad.

[WaltFrazier]

Still in effect... .500 till new year's day.

Let's the hysterics commence...

.500 is harder to take when it's alternating games of look like world beaters followed by looking like bums.

Lots of winnable games in the next week or two, but need to start beating good teams