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Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM

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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#41 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:18 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:I don't think Thibs has the mental fortitude to continue playing the bench decent minutes. Even now it's a pretty small improvement from what he was doing. If we are trailing heading into the 4th but are within striking distance I'm 100% sure Thibs will revert to his old ways and overplay the starters. This team can beat any team when well rested but that hasn't gotten through Thibs thick skull. I hope he proves me wrong.


Unfortunately this is how Im seeing it too (until proven otherwise)
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#42 » by Knick4Real » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:21 pm

This would be a good night to implement the Phil Jackson triangle.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#43 » by TKKnicks1 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:31 pm

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TKKnicks1 wrote:I don't think Thibs has the mental fortitude to continue playing the bench decent minutes. Even now it's a pretty small improvement from what he was doing. If we are trailing heading into the 4th but are within striking distance I'm 100% sure Thibs will revert to his old ways and overplay the starters. This team can beat any team when well rested but that hasn't gotten through Thibs thick skull. I hope he proves me wrong.


Unfortunately this is how Im seeing it too (until proven otherwise)


You know I redact some of my statement. Thibs does know this team is lethal when well rested. He did give the guys a couple days off during this last extended break. Now if that was direction from the FO or his own doing we will never know. The problem with Thibs is that he lacks creativity and always reverts to the mean when things are going south. Unfortunately his mean is the exact opposite of what this team needs right now.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#44 » by The KnicksFix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:06 pm

Knick4Real wrote:This would be a good night to implement the Phil Jackson triangle.
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You ever think about what Phil did for the Knicks?
He legitimately did nothing, matter of fact he set the team back years, and traded KP
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#45 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:07 pm

From another thread.

Knicks that don't play and basically will never play (any meaningful minutes) this year:

Kolek
Dadiet
McCullar
Hukporti
Toppin
Ryan
Sims
Mitch

I mean, only 8 players. Not a lot of dead weight on the roster or anything. No need to make any improvements.

Glad Aller did all that draft maneuvering so the Knicks could roster 4 guys who'll nearly never see an NBA floor, not this year and probably not next year.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#46 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:39 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:From another thread.

Knicks that don't play and basically will never play (any meaningful minutes) this year:

Kolek
Dadiet
McCullar
Hukporti
Toppin
Ryan
Sims
Mitch

I mean, only 8 players. Not a lot of dead weight on the roster or anything. No need to make any improvements.

Glad Aller did all that draft maneuvering so the Knicks could roster 4 guys who'll nearly never see an NBA floor, not this year and probably not next year.


That was to get arguably the best starting 5 in the league under the apron
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#47 » by LFGK » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:42 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
LFGK wrote:W...lets see what % of talk is about minutes and how much Thibs sucks lol



You're literally the first person to mention it in here, so pressed you preemptively defending something hours before the game in the AM, nasty, did you at least eat breakfast first?


generally skip breakfast but the minutes talk, it will start soon lol.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#48 » by Gravy » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:53 pm

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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#49 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:53 pm

There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#50 » by offense » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Obviously there is no way the Knicks will win, since they are going up against the no P&R, low minutes genius of a coach on Memphis.

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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#51 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:53 pm

GONYK wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:From another thread.

Knicks that don't play and basically will never play (any meaningful minutes) this year:

Kolek
Dadiet
McCullar
Hukporti
Toppin
Ryan
Sims
Mitch

I mean, only 8 players. Not a lot of dead weight on the roster or anything. No need to make any improvements.

Glad Aller did all that draft maneuvering so the Knicks could roster 4 guys who'll nearly never see an NBA floor, not this year and probably not next year.


That was to get arguably the fourth best starting 5 in the league under the apron


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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#52 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:54 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.


People who are upset the team is only on a 53 win pace kind of fail to realize it was a bogus 50 win team last year.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#53 » by offense » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:03 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.


People who are upset the team is only on a 53 win pace kind of fail to realize it was a bogus 50 win team last year.

the team last season wasnt bogus lol. injuries kept them back, otherwise they would have made the ecf.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#54 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:11 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.


People who are upset the team is only on a 53 win pace kind of fail to realize it was a bogus 50 win team last year.

the team last season wasnt bogus lol. injuries kept them back, otherwise they would have made the ecf.



Last years team with Mitch/IHart in the middle post OG was a dominant team. 20-5 record prior to the crazy injuries taking over.

This team is a elite rim protecting 5 away of being even better than that (provided Thibs doesn't run them into the ground first)
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#55 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:13 pm

offense wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.


People who are upset the team is only on a 53 win pace kind of fail to realize it was a bogus 50 win team last year.

the team last season wasnt bogus lol. injuries kept them back, otherwise they would have made the ecf.


The playoff appearance wasn't bogus, but they kind of eked out those 50 wins.

This is a better team.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#56 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:14 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
offense wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
People who are upset the team is only on a 53 win pace kind of fail to realize it was a bogus 50 win team last year.

the team last season wasnt bogus lol. injuries kept them back, otherwise they would have made the ecf.



Last years team with Mitch/IHart in the middle post OG was a dominant team. 20-5 record prior to the crazy injuries taking over.

This team is a elite rim protecting 5 away of being even better than that (provided Thibs doesn't run them into the ground first)


Well, they couldn't have been elite team with crap coach Thibs, right?
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#57 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:16 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:There have been ups and downs but nothing has changed much.

This is a 50+ win team and one of the 6 best teams in the NBA.

Brunson and KAT are balling and two of the top 20 players in the league.

Our offense is one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

But the loss of iHart and Mitch is felt.

Both Mikal and OG are playing below the value that the Knicks invested on them. They've been solid overall, but the Knicks paid for better than solid contributions.

The lack of depth is straining the team.

Thibs is doing a solid job coaching the team in a basketball sense but the minutes management is unnecessarily risky.

Overall, this team is a winner but it's inconsistent. If they can end the RS healthy and on a winning streak, I think they can beat anyone (besides OKC perhaps). With an injury to a key player or a loss of form entering the postseason, we'll likely see another second round exit.

The outcome of this game won't change any of this, short of a long-term injury.


Wellsaid and great perspective as usual.

I will add in we are very close to solving 2 issues in one fell swoop . If Mitch returns and stays healthy and/or we pull off trading for an elite rim protector that will solve the biggest missing piece for a Thibs defense AND he would likely get 20-28 minutes a game too greatly alleviating the heavy minutes on too few a distribution of core players.
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#58 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:17 pm

Can't get invested in the win or loss since Thibs is a horrible coach and human being and therefore the team has no future as long as he's around
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#59 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:18 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
offense wrote:the team last season wasnt bogus lol. injuries kept them back, otherwise they would have made the ecf.



Last years team with Mitch/IHart in the middle post OG was a dominant team. 20-5 record prior to the crazy injuries taking over.

This team is a elite rim protecting 5 away of being even better than that (provided Thibs doesn't run them into the ground first)


Well, they couldn't have been elite team with crap coach Thibs, right?


Thibs isnt crap tho Buzz. He has blind spots which could really kill us but he has many many strengths too. Now does his weakness with the minutes prove our downfall? Possibly. But...if we get the right guys here he will play them
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Memphis Grizzlies Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:30 PM 

Post#60 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:19 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:

Last years team with Mitch/IHart in the middle post OG was a dominant team. 20-5 record prior to the crazy injuries taking over.

This team is a elite rim protecting 5 away of being even better than that (provided Thibs doesn't run them into the ground first)


Well, they couldn't have been elite team with crap coach Thibs, right?


Thibs isnt crap tho Buzz. He has blind spots which could really kill us but he has many many strengths too. Now does his weakness with the minutes prove our downfall? Possibly. But...if we get the right guys here he will play them


The consensus is that the team is going nowhere with Thibs and can't compete with "good" teams. So why should I care about any single game?
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