Game Thread: New York KNICKS at Cleveland Cavaliers Fri, Feb 21, 2025 7:00pm ESPN

[HopelessKnick]

Just saw he is day-to-day with a runner's knee....had it myself, nothing concerning.

Hope these warning signs have gotten through to Thibs (OG, Hart). Decrease load, off games and health management until the playoffs.

[NiceLikeChrist]

Blame thibs if we lose. Praise the players if we win.

[Spree2Houston]

Wish we had OG, Hart and especially Mitch for this game. But no way we’re winning tonight

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[3toheadmelo]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

So you finally admit that KAT should be at the 4 after all the arguments we had

[Guano]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

This was some of our biggest concerns with playing 5out with kat. I'll freely admit that I vastly underestimated his ability to get buckets. But the biggest concern some of us skeptics(critics) had are looking real. He is absolutely terrible as a rim protector.

I still question if we used him better on offense and switched more than playing him drop if we could be more successful. And that we would run teams out of the gym. So it would make up for his poor defense.

Idk it also doesn't help that he is out there shuffling like he is walking around a retirement home.

[dakomish23]

Knicks are 10-2 the last 12 games.

I get guys are out but sometimes in a one game situation that works out well b/c it forces others to take bigger roles that they may have not had the willingness or ability to do when we're at full strength.

We got our big guns. We still got Mikal. We still got one of the best bench players in Deuce. They can def win this game.

[G_K_F]

Knicks are 10-2 the last 12 games.

I get guys are out but sometimes in a one game situation that works out well b/c it forces others to take bigger roles that they may have not had the willingness or ability to do when we're at full strength.

We got our big guns. We still got Mikal. We still got one of the best bench players in Deuce. They can def win this game.

This even a positive anymore?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

So you finally admit that KAT should be at the 4 after all the arguments we had

Brother, you lost on September 27th, 2024, you're going through your Ye tweeting era right now. The option to play KAT at the 4 or 5 is what makes him so great, unlike players we had in the past. Playing him next to some unskilled oaf is pointless.


The end of Walt's chapter, fitting gif you used, I will pray for you.

[LFGK]

Blame thibs if we lose. Praise the players if we win.

[robillionaire]

Just saw he is day-to-day with a runner's knee....had it myself, nothing concerning.

Hope these warning signs have gotten through to Thibs (OG, Hart). Decrease load, off games and health management until the playoffs.

That’s probably what last night was, precautionary so he wouldn’t have to play back to back and would play the better team. Now if he misses tonight maybe it’s cause for more concern. Edit: just saw he is out so I guess this is gonna be a thing.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

This was some of our biggest concerns with playing 5out with kat. I'll freely admit that I vastly underestimated his ability to get buckets. But the biggest concern some of us skeptics(critics) had are looking real. He is absolutely terrible as a rim protector.

I still question if we used him better on offense and switched more than playing him drop if we could be more successful. And that we would run teams out of the gym. So it would make up for his poor defense.

Idk it also doesn't help that he is out there shuffling like he is walking around a retirement home.

He could be used a lot better on both sides of the ball, the way we use him is basically just leaving it up to his talent on offense, and they hang him out to dry on defense.

Playing two bigs where 1 is offensive and the other is defensive is no different from what the Cavs do, and ultimately that will be their downfall because 1 of them is going to be a liability on offense. The Thunder have two bigs, but they use them together on a team by team basis. Unfortunately, the only team in the NBA that has two bigs that can defend and shoot are the Celtics with Horford. If you're going to commit to 2 bigs it has to be unique, they both have to be ableo stretch the floor, otherwise a team with big wings will eventually be able to keep one of them in check.

We need the option, and a coach that would do it on a game to game basis, the Raptors did that in 2019. Sometimes Gasol and Ibaka would start together, other times it was Siakam next to Gasol, and in other instances against mobile teams they went with Siakam and Ibaka with Marc off the bench.

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[robillionaire]

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

You’re just going to have to settle for Giannis

[3toheadmelo]

Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

So you finally admit that KAT should be at the 4 after all the arguments we had

Brother, you lost on September 27th, 2024, you're going through your Ye tweeting era right now. The option to play KAT at the 4 or 5 is what makes him so great, unlike players we had in the past. Playing him next to some unskilled oaf is pointless.


The end of Walt's chapter, fitting gif you used, I will pray for you.

Nah you can’t back pedal out of this. Our arguments about KAT was about him holding back our team defensively at the 5. Not about the 4. You just admitted it we need another C after being in denial about it for months. I won.

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Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

This was some of our biggest concerns with playing 5out with kat. I'll freely admit that I vastly underestimated his ability to get buckets. But the biggest concern some of us skeptics(critics) had are looking real. He is absolutely terrible as a rim protector.

I still question if we used him better on offense and switched more than playing him drop if we could be more successful. And that we would run teams out of the gym. So it would make up for his poor defense.

Idk it also doesn't help that he is out there shuffling like he is walking around a retirement home.

The only time KAT’s teams were ever successful was when he was at the 4 next to a big that can defend. If we commit to playing him at the 4 next to someone like Huk, I think we would be a much better team. I too underestimated KAT’s ability to get buckets, but he is really a cone out there man.

[robillionaire]

So you finally admit that KAT should be at the 4 after all the arguments we had

Brother, you lost on September 27th, 2024, you're going through your Ye tweeting era right now. The option to play KAT at the 4 or 5 is what makes him so great, unlike players we had in the past. Playing him next to some unskilled oaf is pointless.


The end of Walt's chapter, fitting gif you used, I will pray for you.

Nah you can’t back pedal out of this. Our arguments about KAT was about him holding back our team defensively at the 5. Not about the 4. You just admitted it we need another C after being in denial about it for months. I won.

You said he was Bargnani and he was an all star starter and then you said the team would suck and it’s the best team we’ve had since the y2k virus

Also he’s a +326 which is the highest plus minus on the team

[Guano]

Offseason should be about trying to get another C that can play with KAT that can also make the three. Forget the rim runners, pair two bigs together that can hit the three.

This was some of our biggest concerns with playing 5out with kat. I'll freely admit that I vastly underestimated his ability to get buckets. But the biggest concern some of us skeptics(critics) had are looking real. He is absolutely terrible as a rim protector.

I still question if we used him better on offense and switched more than playing him drop if we could be more successful. And that we would run teams out of the gym. So it would make up for his poor defense.

Idk it also doesn't help that he is out there shuffling like he is walking around a retirement home.

He could be used a lot better on both sides of the ball, the way we use him is basically just leaving it up to his talent on offense, and they hang him out to dry on defense.

Playing two bigs where 1 is offensive and the other is defensive is no different from what the Cavs do, and ultimately that will be their downfall because 1 of them is going to be a liability on offense. The Thunder have two bigs, but they use them together on a team by team basis. Unfortunately, the only team in the NBA that has two bigs that can defend and shoot are the Celtics with Horford. If you're going to commit to 2 bigs it has to be unique, they both have to be ableo stretch the floor, otherwise a team with big wings will eventually be able to keep one of them in check.

We need the option, and a coach that would do it on a game to game basis, the Raptors did that in 2019. Sometimes Gasol and Ibaka would start together, other times it was Siakam next to Gasol, and in other instances against mobile teams they went with Siakam and Ibaka with Marc off the bench.

I completely agree with your first point. He isn't being used correctly. He has to work really hard for his buckets. He should be set up more often. To that it's disappointing that him and Brunson don't have better chemistry on the offensive end. They basically just take turns cooking. Was actually nice seeing em run a lil 2 man action last night. Set up kat for some easy buckets.

As for defense seems like getting a 2nd big who could pop and and provide rim protection would be ideal but we're broke af and those are rare expensive breeds.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

So you finally admit that KAT should be at the 4 after all the arguments we had

Brother, you lost on September 27th, 2024, you're going through your Ye tweeting era right now. The option to play KAT at the 4 or 5 is what makes him so great, unlike players we had in the past. Playing him next to some unskilled oaf is pointless.


The end of Walt's chapter, fitting gif you used, I will pray for you.

Nah you can’t back pedal out of this. Our arguments about KAT was about him holding back our team defensively at the 5. Not about the 4. You just admitted it we need another C after being in denial about it for months. I won.

Brother, you're on a 5 month long bender crashout that resulted in a whole new thread being created just for crashing out. September 27th, 2024 was Pearl Harbor in Melozakhistan and the reverberations are still being felt. The severe extent of your loss is you trying to claim victory when we're 35-15 with KAT starting at center. Mashallah brother, I didn't know it was this bad. I will continue to pray for you.





Lord, please help my brother find your light, he is walking through a dark path and refuses to come out of it.