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Guano wrote:Kolek being playable right now is pretty huge. Its going to help Brunson stay fresh for the playoffs. I hope that he can continue to give us solid mins. As for the other youth- im pretty disgusted. 3pac is disappointing. We could really use a wing with size. But he has done done nothing but bring shame on France and guan0.
Wildcat wrote:Hit open shots = win game.
KnicksGadfly wrote:Gravy wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
Why must we feel a need to determine that?
What do you mean? To know how good the team is...
Yea, gravy is right. It's a legit question and it shouldn't be shot down. I think in general, there are a few rules to keep in mind.
One is that we should give some grace in the beginning stages, in the same way we give to rookies and new teams. A new coach coming in with a new system...we are going to see some growing pains. If we're not, then Brown is not doing his job. New rotation patterns, systems, etc. The league itself is also adapting, so the Knicks need to adapt. Hell, a lot of people know I disliked the Clarkson signing A LOT but I'm going to give him time. As for how much time, I do remember Hollinger saying 25% of a season is usually a good marker. But how much do you want to trust him? Up to you.
Second is that small sample size is going to play a role in the beginning stages of this season too. There is one interesting change going on for the Knicks this season...we're jacking up more threes. Whether that's good or bad, you all can decide, but that also creates more variance. We shot 34 a game last season. This year, we're at 40, 45, and 54. So some letdowns are going to happen because three point shots leave you prone to these letdown performances. To be honest, us shooting 15-54 against Miami from three and somehow losing by 8 is actually...not too bad in my book. Any loss sucks, but it's not alarming, if you put it that way. The game plan was working. We took 15 more shots than they did and clanked 15 more threes, but if I can get 15 more shots than an opponent every single game, I'll be damn happy.
Third principle is that some of you guys were very good at reminding everyone we aren't championship winners after beating Cleveland in G1. In the same way, don't rush to try to bury this team after losing to Miami. Try to leave off former coaches and players, cause it makes people think someone is rushing to judgment because they want someone to fail in hopes of propping up their favorite ex-Knicks player or coach.
Guano wrote:Kolek being playable right now is pretty huge. Its going to help Brunson stay fresh for the playoffs. I hope that he can continue to give us solid mins. As for the other youth- im pretty disgusted. 3pac is disappointing. We could really use a wing with size. But he has done done nothing but bring shame on France and guan0.
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TheGreenArrow wrote:I hope all is well with deuce though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Capn'O wrote:Guano wrote:Kolek being playable right now is pretty huge. Its going to help Brunson stay fresh for the playoffs. I hope that he can continue to give us solid mins. As for the other youth- im pretty disgusted. 3pac is disappointing. We could really use a wing with size. But he has done done nothing but bring shame on France and guan0.
In Mo's defense he hasn't played yet.
But you're right that Dadiet didn't look ready yet, if he ever will. The brass does seem to like him given he's still here.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Capn'O wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:Gravy wrote:What do you mean? To know how good the team is...
Yea, gravy is right. It's a legit question and it shouldn't be shot down. I think in general, there are a few rules to keep in mind.
One is that we should give some grace in the beginning stages, in the same way we give to rookies and new teams. A new coach coming in with a new system...we are going to see some growing pains. If we're not, then Brown is not doing his job. New rotation patterns, systems, etc. The league itself is also adapting, so the Knicks need to adapt. Hell, a lot of people know I disliked the Clarkson signing A LOT but I'm going to give him time. As for how much time, I do remember Hollinger saying 25% of a season is usually a good marker. But how much do you want to trust him? Up to you.
Second is that small sample size is going to play a role in the beginning stages of this season too. There is one interesting change going on for the Knicks this season...we're jacking up more threes. Whether that's good or bad, you all can decide, but that also creates more variance. We shot 34 a game last season. This year, we're at 40, 45, and 54. So some letdowns are going to happen because three point shots leave you prone to these letdown performances. To be honest, us shooting 15-54 against Miami from three and somehow losing by 8 is actually...not too bad in my book. Any loss sucks, but it's not alarming, if you put it that way. The game plan was working. We took 15 more shots than they did and clanked 15 more threes, but if I can get 15 more shots than an opponent every single game, I'll be damn happy.
Third principle is that some of you guys were very good at reminding everyone we aren't championship winners after beating Cleveland in G1. In the same way, don't rush to try to bury this team after losing to Miami. Try to leave off former coaches and players, cause it makes people think someone is rushing to judgment because they want someone to fail in hopes of propping up their favorite ex-Knicks player or coach.
I'll put it this way. The question would have been treated differently if you had been the one asking it initially.
What's clear is Brown is going to do more experimenting with different lineups and I don't think anything will be really settled until there's better data on what's working.
You're right that it's pretty wild that we're not hitting shots. Like, we have good shooters. They're good shots. We're not hittin' 'em.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
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Guano wrote:Capn'O wrote:Guano wrote:Kolek being playable right now is pretty huge. Its going to help Brunson stay fresh for the playoffs. I hope that he can continue to give us solid mins. As for the other youth- im pretty disgusted. 3pac is disappointing. We could really use a wing with size. But he has done done nothing but bring shame on France and guan0.
In Mo's defense he hasn't played yet.
But you're right that Dadiet didn't look ready yet, if he ever will. The brass does seem to like him given he's still here.
he looks really slow and weak and the athleticism doesnt seem to be there. He is young and french so there is still some hope. But outside of that (his form looks nice, too) its concerning. Cause there is need for a wing and he cant beat out shamet for mins. That sucks.
id rather see mo right now than shamet or 3pac right now. Give me the unknown.
Maybe instead of a million assistant coaches we should hire a more scouts. Or get them out of France. Either way I dont want to turn into Rob. An ol' head who hates the youth. But damn its hard when they're always trash.
Guano wrote:Capn'O wrote:Guano wrote:Kolek being playable right now is pretty huge. Its going to help Brunson stay fresh for the playoffs. I hope that he can continue to give us solid mins. As for the other youth- im pretty disgusted. 3pac is disappointing. We could really use a wing with size. But he has done done nothing but bring shame on France and guan0.
In Mo's defense he hasn't played yet.
But you're right that Dadiet didn't look ready yet, if he ever will. The brass does seem to like him given he's still here.
he looks really slow and weak and the athleticism doesnt seem to be there. He is young and french so there is still some hope. But outside of that (his form looks nice, too) its concerning. Cause there is need for a wing and he cant beat out shamet for mins. That sucks.
id rather see mo right now than shamet or 3pac right now. Give me the unknown.
Maybe instead of a million assistant coaches we should hire a more scouts. Or get them out of France. Either way I dont want to turn into Rob. An ol' head who hates the youth. But damn its hard when they're always trash.
