game 3 finals thread

EchelonNYK · Post #401 » by **EchelonNYK** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:53 pm

Stern's at it again. Durant "the star" has been in foul trouble for the last two games. How many did Wade and Lebrick have? I rest my case.

Post #402 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:53 pm

not sure how you thought Melo got embarres but he scored 30 points 3 times vs LeBron who is considered the beset SF defender in the league. If you take out the game 1 stinker which the entire team didn't show up due to Chandler basically not being able to play he had a pretty good series all things considered.

Basically no center for games 1 and 2 (chandler sickness)
Amare missed a game and was no where near playing well after his terrible year
No shumpert
No PG

How can you say he got embarresed he held his own really well with all things considered.

EchelonNYK · Post #403 » by **EchelonNYK** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:53 pm

And some of those fouls were suspect.

TKF · Post #404 » by **TKF** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:56 pm

guess who was the biggest jerk of all time in sports.. his name.. michael jordan..

honestly just a talking point for the ESPN heads.. i care about his game.. he is spectacular... i enjoy watching every game he plays.. he really set back our franchise 10 years when he didn't come here

true, but it seems as if lebron goes out of the way to look like a jerk in public.. LOL.. but you have a point.. the key is, what you do between the lines.. lebron can flat out play.. I hate he didn't come here, I do think the cat is mentally weak in some ways which is what seperates jordan from him by millions of miles.. but Lebron is a heck of a talent, and man, I would have loved seeing him in a knicks uniform, I have no doubt he would have had a similar effect on amare that nash had....

i envisioned the knicks spreading the floor with gallo and chandler and having amare and lebron run pick and roll.. jeez.. and then imagine adding shumpert and tyson chandler.. we would have had 3 stud defenders on our team in lebron, chandler and shumpert who finished the voting with more votes than wade....

My dream was shattered when that fool said he was going to "souf beach"..... :lol:

Sideline Story · Post #405 » by **Sideline Story** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:57 pm

Yes, Melo was completely exposed and is the reason to us losing the series against MIA.

Further proof of this is that both Melo and LeBron had a fully healthy team, yet all Melo managed to do was win one game. Sad, really.

Knicked_Up · Post #406 » by **Knicked_Up** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:57 pm

Lebron is hated because of the decision, before that he was probably the most liked superstar in the league. He brought it all on himself, which is sad. He is definitely an all time great though.

thebuzzardman · Post #407 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:59 pm

I know stats don't tell the whole story, but if Melo was 7 foot tall and only managed 6 rebounds while simulataneously having zero assists in a playoff game, the level of hand wringing and anti-Melo rhetoric would be through the roof. There would not be enough server processing power on realgm.com to handle it all....

TKF · Post #408 » by **TKF** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:00 pm

mpharris36 wrote:not sure how you thought Melo got embarres but he scored 30 points 3 times vs LeBron who is considered the beset SF defender in the league. If you take out the game 1 stinker which the entire team didn't show up due to Chandler basically not being able to play he had a pretty good series all things considered.

Basically no center for games 1 and 2 (chandler sickness)
Amare missed a game and was no where near playing well after his terrible year
No shumpert
No PG

How can you say he got embarresed he held his own really well with all things considered.

hold on, be fair.. he scored a majority of those on the overrated defensive guru battier......

Sideline Story · Post #409 » by **Sideline Story** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm

TKF wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:not sure how you thought Melo got embarres but he scored 30 points 3 times vs LeBron who is considered the beset SF defender in the league. If you take out the game 1 stinker which the entire team didn't show up due to Chandler basically not being able to play he had a pretty good series all things considered.

Basically no center for games 1 and 2 (chandler sickness)
Amare missed a game and was no where near playing well after his terrible year
No shumpert
No PG

How can you say he got embarresed he held his own really well with all things considered.

hold on, be fair.. he scored a majority of those on the overrated defensive guru battier......

Well, there was a lot of switching on Carmelo in the entire series.

Although a heavy portion of those points were on Battier, the main thing here is that he scored on one of, if not the best, defense in the league constructed by MIA.

That's not really something to just brush off.

TKF · Post #410 » by **TKF** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:18 pm

Sideline Story wrote:
TKF wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:not sure how you thought Melo got embarres but he scored 30 points 3 times vs LeBron who is considered the beset SF defender in the league. If you take out the game 1 stinker which the entire team didn't show up due to Chandler basically not being able to play he had a pretty good series all things considered.

Basically no center for games 1 and 2 (chandler sickness)
Amare missed a game and was no where near playing well after his terrible year
No shumpert
No PG

How can you say he got embarresed he held his own really well with all things considered.

hold on, be fair.. he scored a majority of those on the overrated defensive guru battier......

Well, there was a lot of switching on Carmelo in the entire series.

Although a heavy portion of those points were on Battier, the main thing here is that he scored on one of, if not the best, defense in the league constructed by MIA.

That's not really something to just brush off.

What do you mean by scored on? miami is not going to hold anyone scoreless, but what I think we need to pay attention to, is what when they needed to turn it on defensively, they did, and when lebron said, Ok, enuff, he did...

DRoberstonNYY · Post #411 » by **DRoberstonNYY** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:23 pm

i don't even care about the points.. he got them by getting his own.. he didn't shoot particularly well to get them.. and we all know he held the ball for 20 seconds each possession.. dont give me the garbage of scoring 30 points in 3 games.

heres the difference, melo is a great player. but he's not lebron. when melo is not scoring, he's useless. when lebron is not scoring, he's still one of the best players in the game because of what he can do once he gets a ball. thats what seperates the two.

if melo played half as hard as lebron defensively, we may have beaten the heat.

Sideline Story · Post #412 » by **Sideline Story** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:33 pm

TKF wrote:What do you mean by scored on? miami is not going to hold anyone scoreless, but what I think we need to pay attention to, is what when they needed to turn it on defensively, they did, and when lebron said, Ok, enuff, he did...

Of course they are not going to hold players scoreless, not the good ones, anyway. Carmelo scored in loads as the focal point of the offense. His only help offensively were two inconsistent threats in Smith and Stoudemire.

The Knicks were the furthest thing from healthy in that series and, at times, 90% of the team was scared to hold the ball. Of course there are things Melo should have done better versus MIA but this can be said about every other player on our team.

My point is LeBron had the luxury to say "Okay, enough." Melo was forced into this mindset at the commencement of Game 1. I fail to see how this series exposed Melo.

BeagleBoss · Post #413 » by **BeagleBoss** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:34 pm

That 3rd quarter fourth foul on Durant and those 2 And1 3's was the game. OKC wins by 10+ without those terrible calls. That bald ref is the worst. So desperate to be part of the game. It's so annoying how he exagerates on his calls to get shown on TV. Same bastard that called a T on Duncan for smiling on the bench a few years back.

AndroidMan · Post #414 » by **AndroidMan** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:35 pm

The entire Heat team is fraudulent. They get the benefit of every single call, it's ridiculous. Even their scrubs Battier gets favorable calls. Not impressed with either of their wins so far. They basically had the refs get Durant into foul trouble, hilarious. The only way to slow down KD is by fixing the games to get him into foul trouble. Even in the Knicks series the refs were terrible.
Either way, series is not over. It's def going back to OKC. Stern won't miss a chance at exploiting the series and making it go 6 or 7. NBA = WWE

Heat = Carly Rae Jepsen of the NBA

Sideline Story · Post #415 » by **Sideline Story** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:37 pm

DRoberstonNYY wrote:heres the difference, melo is a great player. but he's not lebron.

What other player in the league is?

It's time for people to stop confusing Melo with LeBron. They are not the same player. LeBron is a once in a generation type player. No one is LeBron.

The quicker you comprehend this, the better off you'll be.

seren · Post #416 » by **seren** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:37 pm

The fourth quarter was brutal to watch. On one hand, we saw Lebron time and again unable to produce any offense against James frigging Harden. On the other hand, OKC had zero ball movement and every shot was forced.

Watching the games so far, I wish OKC never beat the Spurs. At the very least, we would have watched some competent offense.

AndroidMan · Post #417 » by **AndroidMan** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:39 pm

seren wrote:The fourth quarter was brutal to watch. On one hand, we saw Lebron time and again unable to produce any offense against James frigging Harden. On the other hand, OKC had zero ball movement and every shot was forced.

Watching the games so far, I wish OKC never beat the Spurs. At the very least, we would have watched some competent offense.

If Spurs won, we'd be watching either Duncan or Parker in foul trouble all series long. These f'n refs are deplorable.

Sideline Story · Post #418 » by **Sideline Story** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:39 pm

Anyway, this thread is for Game 3 of the NBA Finals, not another Melo vs. LeBron debate.

I apologize for any derailing.

DRoberstonNYY · Post #419 » by **DRoberstonNYY** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:44 pm

AndroidMan wrote:The entire Heat team is fraudulent. They get the benefit of every single call, it's ridiculous. Even their scrubs Battier gets favorable calls. Not impressed with either of their wins so far. They basically had the refs get Durant into foul trouble, hilarious. The only way to slow down KD is by fixing the games to get him into foul trouble. Even in the Knicks series the refs were terrible.
Either way, series is not over. It's def going back to OKC. Stern won't miss a chance at exploiting the series and making it go 6 or 7. NBA = WWE

Heat = Carly Rae Jepsen of the NBA

seren · Post #420 » by **seren** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:45 pm

AndroidMan wrote:
seren wrote:The fourth quarter was brutal to watch. On one hand, we saw Lebron time and again unable to produce any offense against James frigging Harden. On the other hand, OKC had zero ball movement and every shot was forced.

Watching the games so far, I wish OKC never beat the Spurs. At the very least, we would have watched some competent offense.

If Spurs won, we'd be watching either Duncan or Parker in foul trouble all series long. These f'n refs are deplorable.

I don't buy it. You can't explain zero ball movement with foul trouble.