OFFICIAL:I **** HATE DOLAN, THIS ORG, MELO, JR, ETC THREAD

[Clincher]

Met a few of the US Olympic team tonight in a club over here in the UK. I asked Melo if he had spoke to Grunwald and if they were going to match that 'ridiculous Lin contract' and he burst out laughing and shook his head.



Security were not letting people take photos but I managed to get this one of Melo and James Harden from a distance.

That's horrid. Karma is a bitch. Bad moon rising.

They're all bitches as far as I'm concerned. I hope TD and Jorts make good showings with more PT down in Houston. Shump is pretty much the only Knick I actually like now, and with this management, you can expect to see him shipped out for some 40 year old has been by next summer.

Jorts has been waived or supposedly is about to be by the Rockets from what I read a few days ago on this board. And TD had his chance to be the starting PG of the Knicks and he didn't want "it". Lin actually took that chance and ran with it, Douglas refused to and was miserable last season. He had a bunch of chances to impress and he didn't do enough at all. Any PG/SG who can't take advantage of D'Antoni's system that hasn't pissed the coach off(Marbury) just isn't good enough to hang with the big boys.

Shocked people hate Novak already. He actually did his thing for a full season too.

[teh3answer3]

The Red Sox suffered for close to a century after letting Babe Ruth go to the Yankees.

Every success Lin has in Houston will haunt this franchise forever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Bambino

This is not only an angry post. I'm quite serious. This puts a hex on the franchise. Dolan is a curse and this is his legacy statement. It will never be forgotten.

[mpharris36]

the fact that this is stickied is disgraceful and weak...everyone has the right to vent or complain if they are fed up....but an official hating thread??? really...all this for Lin?

A nice start to the season will have all you guys forget about that man.

stop being selfish and insensitive...seriously...

You don't have to enter the thread...

Some posters only want to drink the kool-aid and refuse facts.

first off there is no kool-aid drinkin...if it was up to me I would of had Lin back...but he not back he is just as much to blame as the knicks FO is about him not being back...it was a 50-50 split. Both sides could have done more to have him back here.

The point is he is not here. And as much as I would have liked to see him back that wasn't my 50 million dollars to spend. So if Knicks management and scouts felt Lin just wasn't going to cut it over a full season then they made that choice and we have to live with it. Time will tell if the move was right or wrong.

This is not the Eddy Curry knicks with Marbury...we have legit players and a shot to be a good team. We have 40% of the starting olympic team and hopefully a motivated Amare and Felton off poor ears. We have a deep bench of players that have winning track records. We will be good. People who liked lin can wish him well but pick your side now, ur either with the Knicks or against them.

[Clincher]

the fact that this is stickied is disgraceful and weak...everyone has the right to vent or complain if they are fed up....but an official hating thread??? really...all this for Lin?

A nice start to the season will have all you guys forget about that man.

stop being selfish and insensitive...seriously...

You don't have to enter the thread...

Some posters only want to drink the kool-aid and refuse facts.

GKF/Abe Lincoln the "SCREW THE KNICKS FO!" act is getting a little old my man. You seemingly pop up only to bash the team but aren't around to give them props.

And this comes from someone who has enjoyed your posts since 2004/2005 back when I first started here. Your Anti-Isiah posts were funny in their own right.

[Quick Kick]

We werent winning a title next year with or without Lin. This thread is insane. If anything this franchise was cursed the moment we traded Ewing for a bag of zebra shyt. Nothing will change unless Dolan is ousted and he takes his Indiana Mafia with him. I just hope next year we can get past the 1st round for once in 13 years.

[Mr_Perfect]

It would be old if it was wrong. It's not. It continues to ring true till today. Incompetent management continues to run wild. This is a sad fact.

You must have missed me praising Walsh for his moves. I was a big fan of his. But after he was pushed out I remembered who my owner was.

I love the Knicks, always will, but I can't sit here and have people defend James Dolan. Dolan is the worst thing to have ever happened to the franchise. Ever. In the history of the team. That's not an over-exaggeration either.

[PainKiller]

It's called the James dolan curse.

[Mr_Perfect]

first off there is no kool-aid drinkin...if it was up to me I would of had Lin back...but he not back he is just as much to blame as the knicks FO is about him not being back...it was a 50-50 split. Both sides could have done more to have him back here.

The point is he is not here. And as much as I would have liked to see him back that wasn't my 50 million dollars to spend. So if Knicks management and scouts felt Lin just wasn't going to cut it over a full season then they made that choice and we have to live with it. Time will tell if the move was right or wrong.

This is not the Eddy Curry knicks with Marbury...we have legit players and a shot to be a good team. We have 40% of the starting olympic team and hopefully a motivated Amare and Felton off poor ears. We have a deep bench of players that have winning track records. We will be good. People who liked lin can wish him well but pick your side now, ur either with the Knicks or against them.

No offense but Marbury was on the Olympic team in 2004 too. Forget the Olympic team, the Knicks were a 7th seed last year. You can attribute that to whatever you want but they were still a 7th seed. I fail to see how adding a mediocre PG who was awful last season and a few 40 year old role players is going to make this team into a title contender. This has nothing to do with Lin. Lin didn't put us over the top either. This has to do with people thinking we made some amazing off-season moves this season. Surely they're decent but there's nothing there that leads me to believe this team is contending for the title or even gets past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

[kNicksGmen]

It would be old if it was wrong. It's not. It continues to ring true till today. Incompetent management continues to run wild. This is a sad fact.

You must have missed me praising Walsh for his moves. I was a big fan of his. But after he was pushed out I remembered who my owner was.

I love the Knicks, always will, but I can't sit here and have people defend James Dolan. Dolan is the worst thing to have ever happened to the franchise. Ever. In the history of the team. That's not an over-exaggeration either.

i wasn't that impressed with walsh's moves... i mean he was just doing what dolan wanted as far as clearing cap space for lebon/wade/bosh/amare/etc but it didn't seem that hard to do what he did. basically trade away some decent players along with our draft picks and prospects for virtually nothing in return other than expiring contracts.

hiring dantoni worked in the sense of boosting scrubs stats, but the real reason was to supposedly convince lebron or wade to come which didn't work, and dantoni ended up hurting the team with his incompetence and refusal to adapt.

[Mr_Perfect]

It would be old if it was wrong. It's not. It continues to ring true till today. Incompetent management continues to run wild. This is a sad fact.

You must have missed me praising Walsh for his moves. I was a big fan of his. But after he was pushed out I remembered who my owner was.

I love the Knicks, always will, but I can't sit here and have people defend James Dolan. Dolan is the worst thing to have ever happened to the franchise. Ever. In the history of the team. That's not an over-exaggeration either.

i wasn't that impressed with walsh's moves... i mean he was just doing what dolan wanted as far as clearing cap space for lebon/wade/bosh/amare/etc but it didn't seem that hard to do what he did. basically trade away some decent players along with our draft picks and prospects for virtually nothing in return other than expiring contracts.

He drafted Fields, Gallinari, Harrellson and Shumpert.

He was able to break apart an awful team with awful contracts. He did his job correctly. He wasn't able to fully see his vision through because the Melo trade was the end of him.

[kNicksGmen]

first off there is no kool-aid drinkin...if it was up to me I would of had Lin back...but he not back he is just as much to blame as the knicks FO is about him not being back...it was a 50-50 split. Both sides could have done more to have him back here.

The point is he is not here. And as much as I would have liked to see him back that wasn't my 50 million dollars to spend. So if Knicks management and scouts felt Lin just wasn't going to cut it over a full season then they made that choice and we have to live with it. Time will tell if the move was right or wrong.

This is not the Eddy Curry knicks with Marbury...we have legit players and a shot to be a good team. We have 40% of the starting olympic team and hopefully a motivated Amare and Felton off poor ears. We have a deep bench of players that have winning track records. We will be good. People who liked lin can wish him well but pick your side now, ur either with the Knicks or against them.

No offense but Marbury was on the Olympic team in 2004 too. Forget the Olympic team, the Knicks were a 7th seed last year. You can attribute that to whatever you want but they were still a 7th seed. I fail to see how adding a mediocre PG who was awful last season and a few 40 year old role players is going to make this team into a title contender. This has nothing to do with Lin. Lin didn't put us over the top either. This has to do with people thinking we made some amazing off-season moves this season. Surely they're decent but there's nothing there that leads me to believe this team is contending for the title or even gets past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

they were a 7th seed because of an incompetent coach, having no pg on the roster, key injuries to star players, as well as zombie stat. almost forgot no training camp, condensed schedule, stat's brother, etc.

it's ridiculous to act like that was representative to what the team could become. why not point to how well the team played after dantoni was fired? i feel that's a much better representation of what this team can be.. which is a top 3 or 4 seed. getting out of the first round at the very least.

[kNicksGmen]

It would be old if it was wrong. It's not. It continues to ring true till today. Incompetent management continues to run wild. This is a sad fact.

You must have missed me praising Walsh for his moves. I was a big fan of his. But after he was pushed out I remembered who my owner was.

I love the Knicks, always will, but I can't sit here and have people defend James Dolan. Dolan is the worst thing to have ever happened to the franchise. Ever. In the history of the team. That's not an over-exaggeration either.

i wasn't that impressed with walsh's moves... i mean he was just doing what dolan wanted as far as clearing cap space for lebon/wade/bosh/amare/etc but it didn't seem that hard to do what he did. basically trade away some decent players along with our draft picks and prospects for virtually nothing in return other than expiring contracts.

He drafted Fields, Gallinari, Harrellson and Shumpert.

He was able to break apart an awful team with awful contracts. He did his job correctly. He wasn't able to fully see his vision through because the Melo trade was the end of him.

fields is doo doo. gallo is overrated and there were better players picked after him imo. jorts is ok but considering the knicks had no guards on the roster, they should have drafted selby. shump was a solid pick i'll give him that. i think the only reason the knicks drafted him though was because he did really well shooting the ball in their workout. if he had a bad shooting day that workout i think they don't pick him but who knows. i think he shot like 17/25 from 3.

[ORANGEandBLUE]

I approve of this thread title. It captures my sentiments perfectly.

[R1G]

Good job James Dolan. Frugality wins out! Let's dump the player who saved our season, who took us to the playoffs, made us over $100 million in a single season (including revenue sharing), who made New Yorkers care about the Knicks again. (which Melo didn't and still doesn't). Frugality at the right time, when you previously overspend for Jerome James, Eddy Curry, Larry Brown and Isaiah Thomas. Matter of fact, let's bring in a fat, bench PG from a lottery team, pair him up with a 40 year old and we're set for the future! Perfect time to be frugal New York Knicks. Having Lin gave them an x-factor, which in reality could have pushed them to contention if everything worked out. Now, the reality is they are a treadmill team, with nothing to show for Linsanity. How do they not even conduct a sign and trade is beyond me.. just laughable. This is why the Knicks will always be who they are.. I'm glad I'm not a Knicks fan.

[kNicksGmen]

Good job James Dolan. Frugality wins out! Let's dump the player who saved our season, who took us to the playoffs, made us over $100 million in a single season (including revenue sharing), who made New Yorkers care about the Knicks again. (which Melo didn't and still doesn't). Frugality at the right time, when you previously overspend for Jerome James, Eddy Curry, Larry Brown and Isaiah Thomas. Matter of fact, let's bring in a fat, bench PG from a lottery team, pair him up with a 40 year old and we're set for the future! Perfect time to be frugal New York Knicks. Having Lin gave them an x-factor, which in reality could have pushed them to contention if everything worked out. Now, the reality is they are a treadmill team, with nothing to show for Linsanity. How do they not even conduct a sign and trade is beyond me.. just laughable. This is why the Knicks will always be who they are.. I'm glad I'm not a Knicks fan.

lin didn't take the knicks to the playoffs stop saying that. he kept the season alive but in doing so it kept dantoni around for another losing streak. once dantoni was gone the knicks looked like a real legit contender in the east and much of that was without lin or stat.

[Stannis]

Dolan does what is best for his emotional interest not the team. That guy was paying a killing of luxury during the Isiah Era. I know the luxury tax is much bigger in this CBA; however, this is the one time fans really asked him to pay for the luxury so they can make a better push towards Championship. He obviously does not care about that.

According to sources, Melo was resentful towards Lin's success. It took him forever to finally address that "he wants Lin back". He did that to get fans off his back. He will always want to be front and centered, even if it means losing or regressing the team.

JR Smith can get waived for all I care. He spends all his days on Twitter. We saw him in the post-season, and know his game can use some improvement.

[Nono]

F*CK everyone at this organization. Every single person. And f*ck you too Lin for giving us any false hope. Would've been better if we had just missed the playoffs. That way at least either Melo/Amar'e would have been traded. FML.

[LINearity Wins]

Why hate them ? I think performance/cheap players are the foundation of Knicks!
Knicks offered 760K totally to get 37% ticket price increase, Time-Warner TV contract
and 300% uniform-saling amount increase

It is Lin not loyalty enough to accept such a generous offer 1M qualify offer , 33% raise!
So we should focus on the right target!

[Bravery]

Good thread for venting so here I go:

Honestly, we weren't gonna win anything with Lin or Felton or anyone else. We built a nice Playoff team, but that's it. We're still gonna get destroyed by the Heat and the Lakers.

Lin at least made this team watchable and interesting. Linsanity put my team on a national pedestal in a positive light for once. It was the only time (as far back as I can remember) where random people wouldn't say the word "sucks" after I mention the Knicks. The buzz at the Garden was incredible. I couldn't be more prouder when I flipped on the channels and I saw the Knicks make headlines time and time again. CBS, ABC, NBC national and local news you name it. During that whole stretch, they even put recaps of the games in the lead story... in a good way. The Linning Knicks were front page stuff.. with #17 front and center in orange and blue.

So after all of the lameduck Layden years... scandals during the Isiah years, it was just so refreshing to see - Something I needed to see after being in the dark for too long.

I thought signing him would make swallowing the next 3 years palpable. We weren't going to be seriously contending anyway.. not in the same conference w/ Miami. So yeah, Lin is an easy guy to root for and relate to, other than Tyson Chandler. I also don't hate Melo, and I'm on record in saying I have no agenda against him as I went to Syracuse too. Although I can see why others have acquired a certain disdain for him, I really wanted to see Melo + Lin the most due to the way we were blowing out teams early left and right. But I was robbed of that. Oh well.

So I'm not much of a Melo hater. Dolan on the other hand... has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He can go f*** off.

[ilovenewyork]

This was simply a political decision.

Not a financial one, Not a basketball one. A political one. Poison to any organization.

I'm done. The whole league is a joke.