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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#401 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue May 1, 2018 12:26 am

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E-Balla wrote:I know I'm just letting him know you like those movies more than most so it makes sense you like Batfleck more than most.


I own my nerd side.

Meh. Get on my level bruh. Start spending at least 1 hour a day reading Shounen and comics. **** is tiring at times but so entertaining. Along with the NBA season and not having cable it's why I'm so behind on shows. :(


I went to Midtown Comics 3 times last week. I cancelled Netflix (but will likely get it when the DC shows / AOS go on - but might wait on DC for the streaming service and wait until my dad gets AOS and I’ll get the code), so all I have is basketball, reading, and my comics. **Edit, actually and SQL !

Doomsday Clock. :o Need to get Dark Knights Metal. Missed the weeklies, so will get the trade when it comes out. AND they don’t have it at Midtown! Weird.

Need some Marvel trades.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#402 » by E-Balla » Tue May 1, 2018 12:33 am

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
I own my nerd side.

Meh. Get on my level bruh. Start spending at least 1 hour a day reading Shounen and comics. **** is tiring at times but so entertaining. Along with the NBA season and not having cable it's why I'm so behind on shows. :(


I went to Midtown Comics 3 times last week. I cancelled Netflix (but will likely get it when the DC shows / AOS go on - but might wait on DC for the streaming service and wait until my dad gets AOS and I’ll get the code), so all I have is basketball, reading, and my comics. **Edit, actually and SQL !

Doomsday Clock. :o Need to get Dark Knights Metal. Missed the weeklies, so will get the trade when it comes out. AND they don’t have it at Midtown! Weird.

Need some Marvel trades.

I usually wait for trades if I buy physical honestly. I still gotta read Dark Knights Metal too. Only physicals I keep up to date on are Batman, Nightwing, Flash, and Titans.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#403 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue May 1, 2018 12:38 am

E-Balla wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Meh. Get on my level bruh. Start spending at least 1 hour a day reading Shounen and comics. **** is tiring at times but so entertaining. Along with the NBA season and not having cable it's why I'm so behind on shows. :(


I went to Midtown Comics 3 times last week. I cancelled Netflix (but will likely get it when the DC shows / AOS go on - but might wait on DC for the streaming service and wait until my dad gets AOS and I’ll get the code), so all I have is basketball, reading, and my comics. **Edit, actually and SQL !

Doomsday Clock. :o Need to get Dark Knights Metal. Missed the weeklies, so will get the trade when it comes out. AND they don’t have it at Midtown! Weird.

Need some Marvel trades.

I usually wait for trades if I buy physical honestly. I still gotta read Dark Knights Metal too. Only physicals I keep up to date on are Batman, Nightwing, Flash, and Titans.


I have the first 4 trades of AC and Superman, but weeklies since basically? I wanna catch up on Batman because I heard that’s been incredible. Might pick up JL when Scott Snyder takes over, but we’ll see. Still have some stand-alone I need to read. Apparently The Button is a good mini arc and that takes place right after Dark Knights. White Knight is supposed to be great also. Titans, Flash, and Nightwing were all amazing when I was reading them. Time waned away and had to pick some to drop off, unfortunately. Curious to see what Bendis does with AC and Superman. I’ve got high hopes.

If you’re into trades, sign up for Barnes and Noble emails. They almost always have some deal going on with comics (but 2 get 1, usually) and get 15% off with the coupon. Great deal.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#404 » by E-Balla » Tue May 1, 2018 12:56 am

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
I went to Midtown Comics 3 times last week. I cancelled Netflix (but will likely get it when the DC shows / AOS go on - but might wait on DC for the streaming service and wait until my dad gets AOS and I’ll get the code), so all I have is basketball, reading, and my comics. **Edit, actually and SQL !

Doomsday Clock. :o Need to get Dark Knights Metal. Missed the weeklies, so will get the trade when it comes out. AND they don’t have it at Midtown! Weird.

Need some Marvel trades.

I usually wait for trades if I buy physical honestly. I still gotta read Dark Knights Metal too. Only physicals I keep up to date on are Batman, Nightwing, Flash, and Titans.


I have the first 4 trades of AC and Superman, but weeklies since basically? I wanna catch up on Batman because I heard that’s been incredible. Might pick up JL when Scott Snyder takes over, but we’ll see. Still have some stand-alone I need to read. Apparently The Button is a good mini arc and that takes place right after Dark Knights. White Knight is supposed to be great also. Titans, Flash, and Nightwing were all amazing when I was reading them. Time waned away and had to pick some to drop off, unfortunately. Curious to see what Bendis does with AC and Superman. I’ve got high hopes.

If you’re into trades, sign up for Barnes and Noble emails. They almost always have some deal going on with comics (but 2 get 1, usually) and get 15% off with the coupon. Great deal.

Shidd imma do that. Live close to one too.

And yeah man Batman has been on a roll for a while. Like a real long time.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#405 » by SD2042 » Tue May 1, 2018 1:38 am

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The funniest part was when Black Panther dies and someone in the crowd screamed “He just got here”



LMAO!

Somebody said the same thing last night when I went to see the movie.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#406 » by spree8 » Tue May 1, 2018 1:41 am

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Jim Starlin is a legendary @sshole. If he wasn't pleased with his most famous character was portrayed, trust me, he would have had zero qualms voicing that opinion. Kind of like how Alan Moore sh*ts on every adaptation that's ever been done with his work.

Besides, take a moment to seriously reflect on how dumb the courting of Death would have been translated to the big screen, especially a movie of this magnitude. Not only would you have to introduce an important new character in a movie already so packed that even Captain America is forced to take a minor role, and establish Thanos' relationship with her, you'd have to sell the audience that this huge crossover event, the culmination of 10 years worth of movies, is basically a superhero version of Say Anything, swapping Jon Cusack's boombox out for the Infinity Gauntlet. It would have been completely ridiculous.

I just find it amusing when people complain about how this was changed -- you are far from the only one -- when nothing ever made Thanos look softer or more weak, raging through increasingly unhinged attempts to woo a woman. I wasn't overly thrilled with the motivation they chose, but they were at least able to maintain the culling of half the universe, and The Snap. They also gave him layers that are often lacking in the comics, when he tends to be a one-dimensional mustache twirler. Still a great character, but not on par with the nuanced version we got here.




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You’re saying Jim liked it, but then admitting that Thanos is not like the comics... which is my point exactly.

Jim may have liked it, but for different reasons, because again, Thanos is different from the comics. With that said, my point about Jim is that he probably liked it because his character was finally brought to life... not because it was like the comic... because (one more time) just like you said... “they gave him depth he didn’t have in the comics” and the comic version “is still a great character but not like the nuanced version we got here”.

As far as Lady Death being stupid... well, they had Hela, the Goddess of Death in Thor Ragnorak, so it wouldn’t be too stupid. And it’s not like he’s trying to woo any ol’ girl... it’s just how Death manifests itself to him. He’s been obsessed with death in general his whole life, and even worshipped it... he killed his mom, kids, lovers, team, planets, etc for it... not really just a love story... more of a psychotic maniac on a killing spree. I get what you’re saying about having the time in the movie to establish her tho... but that’s not even the real problem I had with the movie.

My whole point is that I’m not used to seeing Thanos with that emotional depth, and was taken back by it. If you’re admitting there were significant changes, why can’t I dislike it?

Instead of switching his love for death to the love for Gamora... I’d prefer they just cut Lady Death out, and kept him a murderous nutjob with this new motivation of saving the universe by reducing its population to half... which I actually didn’t mind at all (but only brought up as evidence for deviations from the comic). If they did that, maybe we would’ve had more time for people like Capt America too..


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No, I understand where you're coming from. Probably my biggest disappointment with the MCU so far is Whedon's portrayal of Ultron, in which he turned a remorseless, unstoppable killing machine into a wise-cracking smart ass. I f*cking hated it. So if you have that same reaction to Thanos, I respect that. Very unscientifically, it seems that the majority of people I've come across are thrilled with him, but you definitely aren't the only person I've seen who wasn't a fan.

I just can't stress enough, personally, how much I also hated that specific angle of the original Infinity Gauntlet when I first read it. My background is that I was a heavy reader/collector in the mid-late 80s, primarily X-Men. At that point Thanos was very much a fringe character; I don't even remember him from the Marvel Handbooks I used to pore over. So when he was introduced at the end of Avengers, I didn't even recognize him.

So, as has been the case with a lot of these movies, I went out and picked up some trades to familiarize myself with the character and the stories they were adapting. And while I liked him overall, and especially the concept of the Gauntlet, I didn't like his motivation in that story at all. Like, I thought it was one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read in a comic book -- and that's saying something, because they are by nature somewhat ridiculous (and I say that affectionately).

So whenever I see people complaining about that, kind of like people sticking up for Zack Snyder's abortions, it kind of gets under my skin. But it's whatever; you're absolutely entitled to your opinion.

My thing is, a lot of these movies bear very little resemblance to the source material. Civil War and Winter Soldier are nothing like the books, outside of the general inspiration. Age of Ultron was pretty much just the title. And so on. Personally, I think probably 90 percent of the adjustments/alterations they make really work well.

This was one of them, IMO. Using Gamora wasn't really based on the Lady Death thing whatsoever. It was simply a way to anchor Thanos and give him an added dimension and some level of sympathy so that he's more than just the psychotic murderer he's often portrayed to be in the books. She's also a means to show just how far Thanos is willing to go to achieve his ends, which mirrors and augments the relentless manner in which he plows through our heroes. As I saw somebody point out elsewhere, they weren't willing to make the ultimate sacrifices, but he was. And he won (for now).

All that said, I respect that you have a different opinion.

EDIT: Ha, just stumbled on this. Looks like they did take the overpopulation thing right from the books.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/thanos-motivations-in-avengers-infinity-war-have-much-1825660879




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Yea the Ultron thing was way off... glad you can relate haha.

What I meant about Gamora and Lady Death, was that since they didn’t include Lady Death, but still wanted to show some depth and emotion from him (that he really only shows with Death) they decided to reroute that and create that loving emotion with his “daughter” Gamora instead.

As far as that population control motive being from the comics, I only remembered him wanting to wipe out half the universe for Lady Death... didn’t remember if there was any other motivation behind it. Guess he was killing two birds with one stone (no pun intended). Good that they kept that in line with the comic tho.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#407 » by Jstarks3 » Tue May 1, 2018 2:55 am

Statrax wrote:I knew it was too good to be true but...
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I was hoping that device that Fury dropped would’ve had the X symbol. With Disney securing Fox around the release of IW, I thought we would possibly get an Xmen reveal


nah thats too good to be true. instead we get captain marvel :-?
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#408 » by spaceballer » Tue May 1, 2018 3:37 am

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
I went to Midtown Comics 3 times last week. I cancelled Netflix (but will likely get it when the DC shows / AOS go on - but might wait on DC for the streaming service and wait until my dad gets AOS and I’ll get the code), so all I have is basketball, reading, and my comics. **Edit, actually and SQL !

Doomsday Clock. :o Need to get Dark Knights Metal. Missed the weeklies, so will get the trade when it comes out. AND they don’t have it at Midtown! Weird.

Need some Marvel trades.

I usually wait for trades if I buy physical honestly. I still gotta read Dark Knights Metal too. Only physicals I keep up to date on are Batman, Nightwing, Flash, and Titans.


I have the first 4 trades of AC and Superman, but weeklies since basically? I wanna catch up on Batman because I heard that’s been incredible. Might pick up JL when Scott Snyder takes over, but we’ll see. Still have some stand-alone I need to read. Apparently The Button is a good mini arc and that takes place right after Dark Knights. White Knight is supposed to be great also. Titans, Flash, and Nightwing were all amazing when I was reading them. Time waned away and had to pick some to drop off, unfortunately. Curious to see what Bendis does with AC and Superman. I’ve got high hopes.

If you’re into trades, sign up for Barnes and Noble emails. They almost always have some deal going on with comics (but 2 get 1, usually) and get 15% off with the coupon. Great deal.


I think the best trades I ever read were neither Marvel nor really DC. It began as DC, but it didn't work and Gaiman quickly split Sandman off into its own continuity. To this day, his Sandman trade was the only one to ever win a literary prize designed for serious novels. (They clarified the World Fantasy Award rules to disqualify comic books from that category the year after he won it).
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#409 » by vallen » Tue May 1, 2018 3:53 am

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FrontOfficeEye wrote:

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

:lol: Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.



i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#410 » by spaceballer » Tue May 1, 2018 4:04 am

vallen wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
cuyankees wrote:You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

:lol: Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.



i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.


Maybe it's nostalgia, but my favorite Batman actor is the cheesy Adam West one I grew up with :lol:
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#411 » by dakomish23 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:29 am

Jstarks3 wrote:
Statrax wrote:I knew it was too good to be true but...
Spoiler:
I was hoping that device that Fury dropped would’ve had the X symbol. With Disney securing Fox around the release of IW, I thought we would possibly get an Xmen reveal


Spoiler:
nah thats too good to be true. instead we get captain marvel :-?


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Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#412 » by cuyankees » Tue May 1, 2018 5:56 am

vallen wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
cuyankees wrote:You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

:lol: Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.



i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.

admittedly that’s what I had always thought...
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#413 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue May 1, 2018 9:10 am

vallen wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
cuyankees wrote:You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

:lol: Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.



i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.


I don’t think it is, but ok.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#414 » by cuyankees » Tue May 1, 2018 12:41 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
vallen wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote: :lol: Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.



i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.


I don’t think it is, but ok.

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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#415 » by Fury » Tue May 1, 2018 12:42 pm

I don't agree with KT about the DC movies but Ben Affleck IS a good batman. Reminds me of the one from the Dark Knight Returns.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#416 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue May 1, 2018 12:45 pm

cuyankees wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
vallen wrote:

i think this may be confined to your circle. honestly you have to know your in the minority. its not even close. you ever read a comics comments section lol? there are dozens of rank the best batmans, i bet you wont find one with afleck in the top 3.


I don’t think it is, but ok.

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No, I just talk regularly with this about people who actually read comics.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#417 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue May 1, 2018 12:54 pm

Affleck is not even better than Micheal Keaton to me. And I like Affleck. Im not sure I can Cosign Affleck over Bale.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#418 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue May 1, 2018 1:27 pm

also when it comes to wars....Secret Wars >>> Infinity War. Beyonder>> Thanos
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#419 » by Fury » Tue May 1, 2018 1:41 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:also when it comes to wars....Secret Wars >>> Infinity War. Beyonder>> Thanos


Can't wait for the next phases. They have so many options. Seems like Skrulls are next.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer 

Post#420 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue May 1, 2018 1:45 pm

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IllmaticHandler wrote:also when it comes to wars....Secret Wars >>> Infinity War. Beyonder>> Thanos


Can't wait for the next phases. They have so many options. Seems like Skrulls are next.



they have stuff planned after the Infinity wars is concluded? I thought Marvel would be dead after that. :lol:

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