Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

knickstape4ever · Post #401 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:47 pm

does Randle really have no trade value? I know we don't like him and he's not a fit playing with RJ and Mitch, but he's still somewhat productive, and I'd think he'd have at least some value to another team as a 3rd option

my trade proposal would be Randle to the Wolves for James Johnson and a 2020 1st (via BKN) which currently sits at #16

why it makes sense for Knicks:
-no more Randle (not a fit with RJ and Mitch)
-more draft picks

why it makes sense for Wolves:
-they get a productive, young player to help them win-now rather than waiting for another draft pick to develop; the clock is ticking with KAT and they need to show improvement ASAP so they don't risk him asking for a trade (plus they already have their own 1st and have the 3rd worst record atm)
-IMO Randle is also a solid fit next to KAT since KAT can space the floor

digitaldropoff · Post #402 » by **digitaldropoff** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:45 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:does Randle really have no trade value? I know we don't like him and he's not a fit playing with RJ and Mitch, but he's still somewhat productive, and I'd think he'd have at least some value to another team as a 3rd option

my trade proposal would be Randle to the Wolves for James Johnson and a 2020 1st (via BKN) which currently sits at #16

why it makes sense for Knicks:
-no more Randle (not a fit with RJ and Mitch)
-more draft picks

why it makes sense for Wolves:
-they get a productive, young player to help them win-now rather than waiting for another draft pick to develop; the clock is ticking with KAT and they need to show improvement ASAP so they don't risk him asking for a trade (plus they already have their own 1st and have the 3rd worst record atm)
-IMO Randle is also a solid fit next to KAT since KAT can space the floor

Minnesota says no. Why would you ask?....Minnesota wants a PF who can do one of two things. Shoot the three ball well or a rim protector since KAT doesn't really play defense. Julius Randle is actually incredibly poor at the two things they covet. KAT has already been appeased, they literally brought in his best friend, and they are both under ink for 3+ seasons (after this year)...clock was reset when the Dloaded. I'm sorry, but your opinion is not up to par with wise on this one, Randle and KAT would arguably be the worst defensive big man duo in the league...like shockingly, all time bad. They can already score a ton of points without KAT even playing, they need defensive juice, and Randle doesn't have a drop.

WargamesX · Post #403 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:53 pm

My top 3 realistic FA acquisition

Christian Wood
Joe Harris
Josh Jackson

The Knicks need to get role players/starters who can gel with the youth, shoot a 3 pt shot, and won’t cost them an arm and a leg.

knickstape4ever · Post #404 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:44 pm

digitaldropoff wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:does Randle really have no trade value? I know we don't like him and he's not a fit playing with RJ and Mitch, but he's still somewhat productive, and I'd think he'd have at least some value to another team as a 3rd option

my trade proposal would be Randle to the Wolves for James Johnson and a 2020 1st (via BKN) which currently sits at #16

why it makes sense for Knicks:
-no more Randle (not a fit with RJ and Mitch)
-more draft picks

why it makes sense for Wolves:
-they get a productive, young player to help them win-now rather than waiting for another draft pick to develop; the clock is ticking with KAT and they need to show improvement ASAP so they don't risk him asking for a trade (plus they already have their own 1st and have the 3rd worst record atm)
-IMO Randle is also a solid fit next to KAT since KAT can space the floor

Minnesota says no. Why would you ask?....Minnesota wants a PF who can do one of two things. Shoot the three ball well or a rim protector since KAT doesn't really play defense. Julius Randle is actually incredibly poor at the two things they covet. KAT has already been appeased, they literally brought in his best friend, and they are both under ink for 3+ seasons (after this year)...clock was reset when the Dloaded. I'm sorry, but your opinion is not up to par with wise on this one, Randle and KAT would arguably be the worst defensive big man duo in the league...like shockingly, all time bad. They can already score a ton of points without KAT even playing, they need defensive juice, and Randle doesn't have a drop.

things to also consider: 1) this year Randle actually grades out positively defensively per ESPN DRPM; he might not be a shot blocker but he has been a better defender this year than previous years 2) the D'Lo trade was just a band-aid; if Minny continues to lose, KAT will likely want out, as do most players in perpetual losing situations; it might not be next year but Wolves should still be on notice that they need to win to keep him happy 3) Pick #16 isn't likely to yield a player of Randle's caliber, especially not immediately; despite many Knicks fans not liking Randle, he's a productive player who's been forced to be the primary option when he's clearly a tertiary option, secondary at best

Ewing33 · Post #405 » by **Ewing33** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:32 pm

WargamesX wrote:My top 3 realistic FA acquisition

Christian Wood
Joe Harris
Josh Jackson

The Knicks need to get role players/starters who can gel with the youth, shoot a 3 pt shot, and won’t cost them an arm and a leg.

Ideal world, these are the type of players I'd target as well on overpaid 1 year contracts with team options. That said, not a big Josh Jackson guy but that has nothing to do with his game. If he can get his head out of his ass he could be a phenomenal player, Artest comes to mind as a ceiling for him.

ny-n-md · Post #406 » by **ny-n-md** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:21 pm

Ewing33 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:My top 3 realistic FA acquisition

Christian Wood
Joe Harris
Josh Jackson

The Knicks need to get role players/starters who can gel with the youth, shoot a 3 pt shot, and won’t cost them an arm and a leg.

Ideal world, these are the type of players I'd target as well on overpaid 1 year contracts with team options. That said, not a big Josh Jackson guy but that has nothing to do with his game. If he can get his head out of his ass he could be a phenomenal player, Artest comes to mind as a ceiling for him.

I would definitely sign Christian Wood. Not really high on the other 2. Just imagine Wood playing alongside Mitch? Make it happen!

DLTGWH · Post #407 » by **DLTGWH** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:05 pm

WargamesX wrote:My top 3 realistic FA acquisition

Christian Wood
Joe Harris
Josh Jackson

The Knicks need to get role players/starters who can gel with the youth, shoot a 3 pt shot, and won’t cost them an arm and a leg.

Really like joe Harris. These are the types of vets we should be bringing in not Wayne Ellington and Julius grundel

knickstape4ever · Post #408 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:35 pm

this might be an unpopular opinion, but I kinda like Portis; he's definitely not worth 15M but if they can decline his option and bring him back cheaper, I'd be for it

I also think he should be playing the 5 more; he's too slow to play the 4/guard the perimeter in today's NBA; yeah, he's not much of a rim protector either, but in a bench role, playing mostly vs the other teams 2nd unit, that would be mitigated

WargamesX · Post #409 » by **WargamesX** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:21 am

Read on Twitter

Welp he was banging on Gobert in the paint something crazy......

knickstape4ever · Post #410 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:47 am

WargamesX wrote:

Read on Twitter

Welp he was banging on Gobert in the paint something crazy......

so you're saying there's a chance Randle has it....

WargamesX · Post #411 » by **WargamesX** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:49 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
WargamesX wrote:

Read on Twitter

Welp he was banging on Gobert in the paint something crazy......

so you're saying there's a chance Randle has it....

Jokes aside yes......

Adelheid · Post #412 » by **Adelheid** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:24 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:This x 1 million...we rarely sell high, and pulled it off. That fool Mills wanted to keep him and resign to a big deal.

Read on Twitter

I dont watch the clips but I would take it that his usage rate isnt high being a clipper (not high on the pecking order) and thus, he has less chance of making his fg% pretty. He has the lions share of attempts being a knick.

Neeva · Post #413 » by **Neeva** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:27 am

You might get Rosas to give you the 33rd pick but not 16 he will likely try to use that to get a much better fit for the wolves than Randle.

knickstape4ever wrote:does Randle really have no trade value? I know we don't like him and he's not a fit playing with RJ and Mitch, but he's still somewhat productive, and I'd think he'd have at least some value to another team as a 3rd option

my trade proposal would be Randle to the Wolves for James Johnson and a 2020 1st (via BKN) which currently sits at #16

why it makes sense for Knicks:
-no more Randle (not a fit with RJ and Mitch)
-more draft picks

why it makes sense for Wolves:
-they get a productive, young player to help them win-now rather than waiting for another draft pick to develop; the clock is ticking with KAT and they need to show improvement ASAP so they don't risk him asking for a trade (plus they already have their own 1st and have the 3rd worst record atm)
-IMO Randle is also a solid fit next to KAT since KAT can space the floor

knickstape4ever · Post #414 » by **knickstape4ever** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:19 am

Neeva wrote:You might get Rosas to give you the 33rd pick but not 16 he will likely try to use that to get a much better fit for the wolves than Randle.

knickstape4ever wrote:does Randle really have no trade value? I know we don't like him and he's not a fit playing with RJ and Mitch, but he's still somewhat productive, and I'd think he'd have at least some value to another team as a 3rd option

my trade proposal would be Randle to the Wolves for James Johnson and a 2020 1st (via BKN) which currently sits at #16

why it makes sense for Knicks:
-no more Randle (not a fit with RJ and Mitch)
-more draft picks

why it makes sense for Wolves:
-they get a productive, young player to help them win-now rather than waiting for another draft pick to develop; the clock is ticking with KAT and they need to show improvement ASAP so they don't risk him asking for a trade (plus they already have their own 1st and have the 3rd worst record atm)
-IMO Randle is also a solid fit next to KAT since KAT can space the floor

tbh, I'd take it, assuming they've shopped him around and can't get a 1st

Richard4444 · Post #415 » by **Richard4444** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:48 pm

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/sources-some-in-knicks-front-office-are-enamored-with-pending-free-agent-f-christian-wood/313068594

Nbabrothers · Post #416 » by **Nbabrothers** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:45 pm

...I believe the Knicks need the following:
Superstar
2 all stars
A lockdown defensive specialist
5 role player including :
A three point specialist

I can see Frank as the defender and Ellington as the three point specialist and RJ as an all star.

We are missing that superstar.

What do you think?

Jimmit79 · Post #417 » by **Jimmit79** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:25 pm

Nbabrothers wrote:...I believe the Knicks need the following:
Superstar
2 all stars
A lockdown defensive specialist
5 role player including :
A three point specialist

I can see Frank as the defender and Ellington as the three point specialist and RJ as an all star.

We are missing that superstar.

What do you think?

As long as Dolan is around even that won't bring home championship the guy is net negative sitting from sideline.

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Post #418 » by **moocow007** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:28 pm

Speaking of Net players (Joe Harris, etc.)...

One guy that actually looks very interesting to me is the Brooklyn's Nets backup backup PG, Chris Chiozza. Was watching a couple Net games (yeah, yeah, I was curious) and Chiozza did everything that you expect form a PG. And he looked anything but a rookie. Granted he doesn't have great size nor is he explosive but he makes the right plays and passes, get his teammates involved, can shoot and has a great feel for the game. IF the Knicks were looking to sign a backup PG, Chiozza is worth a look. Especially if they want to use their capspace elsewhere. He's on a 2-way contract. No, I don't know what that means for Ntilikina.\

Another Net who won't be a free agent for a few years that I also am really impressed with is Rodions Kurucs, a 2nd round pick of theirs from 2018. Kuruc's is what I call a basketball player. He's a very under the radar player but he's got really nice skills, competes hard and just has a really good feel about the game. High IQ, intense and lots of basketball talent. He's has a natural vibe about him when he's on the court. I would keep tabs on him and if something happens and the Nets have to shed him (trade or otherwise), maybe making a move to acquire him. Yes, yes, we have Iggy but still...

spree2kawhi · Post #419 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:16 am

moocow007 wrote:Speaking of Net players (Joe Harris, etc.)...

One guy that actually looks very interesting to me is the Brooklyn's Nets backup backup PG, Chris Chiozza. Was watching a couple Net games (yeah, yeah, I was curious) and Chiozza did everything that you expect form a PG. And he looked anything but a rookie. Granted he doesn't have great size nor is he explosive but he makes the right plays and passes, get his teammates involved, can shoot and has a great feel for the game. IF the Knicks were looking to sign a backup PG, Chiozza is worth a look. Especially if they want to use their capspace elsewhere. He's on a 2-way contract. No, I don't know what that means for Ntilikina.\

Another Net who won't be a free agent for a few years that I also am really impressed with is Rodions Kurucs, a 2nd round pick of theirs from 2018. Kuruc's is what I call a basketball player. He's a very under the radar player but he's got really nice skills, competes hard and just has a really good feel about the game. High IQ, intense and lots of basketball talent. He's has a natural vibe about him when he's on the court. I would keep tabs on him and if something happens and the Nets have to shed him (trade or otherwise), maybe making a move to acquire him. Yes, yes, we have Iggy but still...

Wasn't Kurucs the wife beater? Aren't the reports true?

HarthorneWingo · Post #420 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:07 pm

Stan Van Gundy quote when asked if he might be interested in the Knicks head coaching position

“I’m not really interested in the New York Knicks, no,” said Van Gundy during an interview in ESPN Radio. “First of all there’s a family history there. It anyone would be interest in that — and I’m not sure he is either — it would be my brother. And number two, I just — I’ve said this, I’m different than a lot of coaches in looking at jobs.

“To me it’s all about who you work for and who you work with. Everything I’ve seen over the last few years with that omanization says that its extremely dysfunctional.”