OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[Clyde_Style]

Whats the take on Regeneron/monoclonal antibodies? They’re giving them out for free like crazy in south Florida.

https://www.wctv.tv/2021/08/18/desantis-says-regeneron-covid-treatment-is-free-floridians-state-continues-add-sites/

Anything to do with Regeneron in Florida has everything to do with DeSantis and his shady motives. He was promoting treatments at $1,000 a pop while doing everything he possibly could to spread the virus.

The reality is if you do get sick and you're not yet hospitalized, you should seriously consider taking advantage of the opportunity for free Regenron treatments. It is not a substitute for vaccination, but it could save your life or prevent long-term complications from covid. It is a legit treatment and certainly better than the wacko Ivermectim scam.

The feds are picking up the tab on this so I wonder how this will play out, because they are investigating DeSantis. I bet they got a steep discount from Regeron to do this. The feds are definitely not paying the $1,000 retail rate for this. That this is happening at all is because DeSantis is spreading the virus, not acting to prevent it.

DeSantis will now use the fact that the feds are paying to make himself look like the good guy for releasing free Regeneron treatments to the public when it is anything but that. Anything he can do to take the heat off himself, Regeron and the hedge funds invested in Regeron that donated to DeSantis he will do. So remember that DeSantis is a bad guy, not a good player in this. The feds basically took control of the situation to help mitigate the outbreak in FL which is the worst in the country by footing the bill. DeSantis should get zero credit.

The ultimate irony in all of this is you'll probably see testimonials about how Regeron saved my life, yadda yadda from the very same people who refused to be vaccinated. If you don't trust Pfizer or Moderna, put your faith in Regeneron because your MAGA leaders endorsed it

[HarthorneWingo]

Whats the take on Regeneron/monoclonal antibodies? They’re giving them out for free like crazy in south Florida.

Just want these ass wipes in Florida need; being injected with a super steroid. It’s an after the fact treatment for after you get a bad case of COVID. It’s very powerful steroid. Trump was on it after his symptoms became on bigly.

It’s not a prophylactic to my knowledge. In other words, it doesn’t act like a vaccine.

You gonna give ol’ Wingo some good news?

[HarthorneWingo]

This is infuriating

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035897908/tennessee-student-masks-adults-mock

I wish I could it was just Tennessee being Tennessee. But here on Long Island, the not so great Town of Massapequa (MAGAt city), the school district has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that they should lawyer up and file a lawsuit up in Albany challenging NY State’s school mask mandate. I believe the Valley Steam school district also joined in it. Stupid people.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

This is infuriating

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035897908/tennessee-student-masks-adults-mock

I wish I could it was just Tennessee being Tennessee. But here on Long Island, the not so great Town of Massapequa (MAGAt city), the school district has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that they should lawyer up and file a lawsuit up in Albany challenging NY State’s school mask mandate. I believe the Valley Steam school district also joined in it. Stupid people.

Deal with it. My body, my choice. My kid's body? Still my choice. Certainly not yours. You don't like it... move to the Bronx or San Fransisco, or some other liberal hell hole.

Certified perverts like yourself, Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo want to force me and my kids to wear masks and to take an injection manufactured and rushed to the market by a small handful of corrupt and dangerous big pharma companies who have zero liability, and then poke fun at conservatives for not "trusting science". You'd eat a sh*t sandwich if Dr. Fauci told you it was a delicious burger.

And before you call me a MAGAtard... f*ck Donald Trump. He put us in this mess. He's just another cog in the wheel. The left/right paradigm is for dullards. We're all under attack here.

[DOT]

This is infuriating

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035897908/tennessee-student-masks-adults-mock

I wish I could it was just Tennessee being Tennessee. But here on Long Island, the not so great Town of Massapequa (MAGAt city), the school district has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that they should lawyer up and file a lawsuit up in Albany challenging NY State’s school mask mandate. I believe the Valley Steam school district also joined in it. Stupid people.

Deal with it. My body, my choice. My kid's body? Still my choice. Certainly not yours. You don't like it... move to the Bronx or San Fransisco, or some other liberal hell hole.

Certified perverts like yourself, Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo want to force me and my kids to wear masks and to take an injection manufactured and rushed to the market by a small handful of corrupt and dangerous big pharma companies who have zero liability, and then poke fun at conservatives for not "trusting science". You'd eat a sh*t sandwich if Dr. Fauci told you it was a delicious burger.

And before you call me a MAGAtard... f*ck Donald Trump. He put us in this mess. He's just another cog in the wheel. The left/right paradigm is for dullards. We're all under attack here.

Whines about people being mean to conservatives

Calls cities "liberal hell holes"

Literally just verbatim right wing propaganda

"Trust me, I'm not on either side"

Sure, buddy. Also, don't call posters "certified perverts" just because you disagree with them. It's uncouth.

[Zenzibar]

I met this guy this morning who wants to split $1000000 between zenzibar and me. I figure I'll take $999,999 and he'll get a dollar. Seems fair as we both get money.

Haha ok sure.

But answer my question first. For $999,999.
Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

I don’t .

Interesting. Have you heard that Moderna is looking to bundle the two vaccines: Flu and Covid boosters. Their stock actually jumped.

[Zenzibar]

Yes. Primarily to protect others who may be compromised.

I never thought of it that way until now. Maybe because I was always the victim of the others working in the office who had kids or were around kids who didn't get vaxxed ... or get their kids vaxxed. That shyt would lay me out for a week. Then I started getting the flu shots just to protect me. It was a no-brainer after that. But it was never sold to me by my doctor as "protecting others."

Interesting statistic is that influenza-related illnesses and deaths declined drastically last year not because everyone got flu shots but because a lot of us were wearing masks last fall.

Masks work. I use the KN95s.

the beautiful thing about vaccines is... they do both!

people don't get or spread polio in the united states anymore. because vaccines.

endemic measles was statistically eliminated in the united states in 2000. at that point it could only take hold again from travelers bringing it into the country and infecting unvaccinated individuals who spread to other unvaccinated individuals.

vaccines: keeping americans alive and free to reject vaccines since...

you'd think the simple enough plan was to practice safe behaviors and look out for one another long enough to get a vaccine distributed that could protect americans from this pandemic. but i guess we would rather have endemic COVID-19 and its many variants. ironically, i teach healthcare professionals in other countries who have lacked access to the vaccine while we willfully reject it. it's amazing and deflating.

Last time I took a flu vaccines is was laid out for 1 to 2 weeks. That was 15 years ago and I hadn't gotten more than a 24 hour bug before or since.
Is there a correlation? Perhaps.

[Zenzibar]

Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

Yes. Primarily to protect others who may be compromised.

I never thought of it that way until now. Maybe because I was always the victim of the others working in the office who had kids or were around kids who didn't get vaxxed ... or get their kids vaxxed. That shyt would lay me out for a week. Then I started getting the flu shots just to protect me. It was a no-brainer after that. But it was never sold to me by my doctor as "protecting others."

Interesting statistic is that influenza-related illnesses and deaths declined drastically last year not because everyone got flu shots but because a lot of us were wearing masks last fall.

Masks work. I use the KN95s.

Limited human contact?

[HarthorneWingo]

I never thought of it that way until now. Maybe because I was always the victim of the others working in the office who had kids or were around kids who didn't get vaxxed ... or get their kids vaxxed. That shyt would lay me out for a week. Then I started getting the flu shots just to protect me. It was a no-brainer after that. But it was never sold to me by my doctor as "protecting others."

Interesting statistic is that influenza-related illnesses and deaths declined drastically last year not because everyone got flu shots but because a lot of us were wearing masks last fall.

Masks work. I use the KN95s.

the beautiful thing about vaccines is... they do both!

people don't get or spread polio in the united states anymore. because vaccines.

endemic measles was statistically eliminated in the united states in 2000. at that point it could only take hold again from travelers bringing it into the country and infecting unvaccinated individuals who spread to other unvaccinated individuals.

vaccines: keeping americans alive and free to reject vaccines since...

you'd think the simple enough plan was to practice safe behaviors and look out for one another long enough to get a vaccine distributed that could protect americans from this pandemic. but i guess we would rather have endemic COVID-19 and its many variants. ironically, i teach healthcare professionals in other countries who have lacked access to the vaccine while we willfully reject it. it's amazing and deflating.

Last time I took a flu vaccines is was laid out for 1 to 2 weeks. That was 15 years ago and I hadn't gotten more than a 24 hour bug before or since.
Is there a correlation? Perhaps.

That's interesting. Like I said earlier, I got the flu because I was around people and kids from working in the City and working in a large office building. Once I started getting flu shots, I stopped getting the flu. Or if I did, it was only a 2-3 day bug as opposed to being laid out for 7 days with a bad cough. When I stopped, I did okay for a winter or two, at most, and it started back up like getting hit by a bowling ball. After that, the more I worked from home and stayed away from people with kids, the less I got sick.

They say that mask-wearing cut down annual cases of the flu last season dramatically, even though vaccination rate for that virus remained the same (or maybe even decreased, I forget).

As for you're situation, it's hard to say without knowing your fulling medical history. I think those who are immunodeficient can be more susceptible to having more harsh reactions to a vaccination. It's hard to say. I think there are probably others here who are better qualified to answer that one.

[thebuzzardman]

This is infuriating

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035897908/tennessee-student-masks-adults-mock

I wish I could it was just Tennessee being Tennessee. But here on Long Island, the not so great Town of Massapequa (MAGAt city), the school district has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that they should lawyer up and file a lawsuit up in Albany challenging NY State’s school mask mandate. I believe the Valley Steam school district also joined in it. Stupid people.

Deal with it. My body, my choice. My kid's body? Still my choice. Certainly not yours. You don't like it... move to the Bronx or San Fransisco, or some other liberal hell hole.

Certified perverts like yourself, Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo want to force me and my kids to wear masks and to take an injection manufactured and rushed to the market by a small handful of corrupt and dangerous big pharma companies who have zero liability, and then poke fun at conservatives for not "trusting science". You'd eat a sh*t sandwich if Dr. Fauci told you it was a delicious burger.

And before you call me a MAGAtard... f*ck Donald Trump. He put us in this mess. He's just another cog in the wheel. The left/right paradigm is for dullards. We're all under attack here.

Found NYMentality's 3rd account on here

[Fury]

This is infuriating

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/10/1035897908/tennessee-student-masks-adults-mock

I wish I could it was just Tennessee being Tennessee. But here on Long Island, the not so great Town of Massapequa (MAGAt city), the school district has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that they should lawyer up and file a lawsuit up in Albany challenging NY State’s school mask mandate. I believe the Valley Steam school district also joined in it. Stupid people.

Deal with it. My body, my choice. My kid's body? Still my choice. Certainly not yours. You don't like it... move to the Bronx or San Fransisco, or some other liberal hell hole.

Certified perverts like yourself, Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo want to force me and my kids to wear masks and to take an injection manufactured and rushed to the market by a small handful of corrupt and dangerous big pharma companies who have zero liability, and then poke fun at conservatives for not "trusting science". You'd eat a sh*t sandwich if Dr. Fauci told you it was a delicious burger.

And before you call me a MAGAtard... f*ck Donald Trump. He put us in this mess. He's just another cog in the wheel. The left/right paradigm is for dullards. We're all under attack here.

All this over a little jab. What a pussy.

[DaGawd]

Haha ok sure.

But answer my question first. For $999,999.
Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

I don’t .

Interesting. Have you heard that Moderna is looking to bundle the two vaccines: Flu and Covid boosters. Their stock actually jumped.

Me personally I’ve never taken a flu shot in my 30 years of living and luckily by the Grace of the man above I don’t really get sick with any thing too often. Coincidently actually last time I really got sick with the flu was late October 2019. Right before the pandemic really took off

[Jeff Van Gully]

I never thought of it that way until now. Maybe because I was always the victim of the others working in the office who had kids or were around kids who didn't get vaxxed ... or get their kids vaxxed. That shyt would lay me out for a week. Then I started getting the flu shots just to protect me. It was a no-brainer after that. But it was never sold to me by my doctor as "protecting others."

Interesting statistic is that influenza-related illnesses and deaths declined drastically last year not because everyone got flu shots but because a lot of us were wearing masks last fall.

Masks work. I use the KN95s.

the beautiful thing about vaccines is... they do both!

people don't get or spread polio in the united states anymore. because vaccines.

endemic measles was statistically eliminated in the united states in 2000. at that point it could only take hold again from travelers bringing it into the country and infecting unvaccinated individuals who spread to other unvaccinated individuals.

vaccines: keeping americans alive and free to reject vaccines since...

you'd think the simple enough plan was to practice safe behaviors and look out for one another long enough to get a vaccine distributed that could protect americans from this pandemic. but i guess we would rather have endemic COVID-19 and its many variants. ironically, i teach healthcare professionals in other countries who have lacked access to the vaccine while we willfully reject it. it's amazing and deflating.

Last time I took a flu vaccines is was laid out for 1 to 2 weeks. That was 15 years ago and I hadn't gotten more than a 24 hour bug before or since.
Is there a correlation? Perhaps.

real talk, probably not. you only got one flu shot. that's not exactly a rigorous study. sorry about how you felt and how that experience is impacting your trust. i get it.

i've had at least 20 now. i have had one memorable possible reaction where i felt yucky for a acouple of days. it was one of the first ones i got. maybe the first. can't remember.

sometimes vaccines trigger reactions. if it's vaccine related, you didn't get an infection. your body is just trying to figure out what this foreign thing is that's been introduced. and sometimes that feels terrible. def been there. and have never regretted the resulting protection for myself and others.

sometimes you get sick with something else around the same time. also, flu shots don't cover every active strain. that's why the efficacy numbers aren't 100%. people still get uncovered strains despite being protected from others.

what did your doctor say about it?

[Jeff Van Gully]

the beautiful thing about vaccines is... they do both!

people don't get or spread polio in the united states anymore. because vaccines.

endemic measles was statistically eliminated in the united states in 2000. at that point it could only take hold again from travelers bringing it into the country and infecting unvaccinated individuals who spread to other unvaccinated individuals.

vaccines: keeping americans alive and free to reject vaccines since...

you'd think the simple enough plan was to practice safe behaviors and look out for one another long enough to get a vaccine distributed that could protect americans from this pandemic. but i guess we would rather have endemic COVID-19 and its many variants. ironically, i teach healthcare professionals in other countries who have lacked access to the vaccine while we willfully reject it. it's amazing and deflating.

Last time I took a flu vaccines is was laid out for 1 to 2 weeks. That was 15 years ago and I hadn't gotten more than a 24 hour bug before or since.
Is there a correlation? Perhaps.

That's interesting. Like I said earlier, I got the flu because I was around people and kids from working in the City and working in a large office building. Once I started getting flu shots, I stopped getting the flu. Or if I did, it was only a 2-3 day bug as opposed to being laid out for 7 days with a bad cough. When I stopped, I did okay for a winter or two, at most, and it started back up like getting hit by a bowling ball. After that, the more I worked from home and stayed away from people with kids, the less I got sick.

They say that mask-wearing cut down annual cases of the flu last season dramatically, even though vaccination rate for that virus remained the same (or maybe even decreased, I forget).

As for you're situation, it's hard to say without knowing your fulling medical history. I think those who are immunodeficient can be more susceptible to having more harsh reactions to a vaccination. It's hard to say. I think there are probably others here who are better qualified to answer that one.

lots of possible factors. none of us have enough info to tell. best thing would have been to discuss in the moment with one's primary care provider ASAP. that's one's best shot at getting the right info. no pun intended.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Haha ok sure.

But answer my question first. For $999,999.
Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

I don’t .

Interesting. Have you heard that Moderna is looking to bundle the two vaccines: Flu and Covid boosters. Their stock actually jumped.

ironically, this is where i always seen this going. the flu shots we already take are composites of immunizations against multiple strains. they are updated as quickly as possible to include new strains as they are identified. so i figured it would only be a matter of time before someone figured out how to address COVID-19 similarly.

not to make this an investment convo, but moderna's stock is rising because they are doing a bang up job of innovating in this space and people believe they'll stay out front. we all got pfizer in our house because that was available first in our area, but we picked up moderna stock a while back and wish we'd gotten more.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I don’t .

Interesting. Have you heard that Moderna is looking to bundle the two vaccines: Flu and Covid boosters. Their stock actually jumped.

Me personally I’ve never taken a flu shot in my 30 years of living and luckily by the Grace of the man above I don’t really get sick with any thing too often. Coincidently actually last time I really got sick with the flu was late October 2019. Right before the pandemic really took off

just curious, were you diagnosed with flu at a medical place or did you get very sick and assume due to your understanding of the symptoms?

i only ask because i got flu once, and it was before my first flu vaccine. i don't know what strain i got, but my doctor told me i had influenza. it is by far the sickest i have ever been. i was down BAD for a week and legit thought i might die. i used to get bad colds and bronchitis and **** regularly. some of those were worse than others and i thought the bad ones might have been flu.

nah, bruh. that **** hit DIFFERENT. of course that impacted my decision to always get a flu shot early and hope i never catch some uncovered strain.

sounds like you are averse to all kinds of vaccines. i completely get people's apprehension and concern about COVID-19 vaccines given they were developed very quickly in a global emergency situation. what do you think about childhood vaccines like the ones kids get against MMR, polio, etc. for school? just curious. are you against that kind of immunization as well?

[DaGawd]

Interesting. Have you heard that Moderna is looking to bundle the two vaccines: Flu and Covid boosters. Their stock actually jumped.

Me personally I’ve never taken a flu shot in my 30 years of living and luckily by the Grace of the man above I don’t really get sick with any thing too often. Coincidently actually last time I really got sick with the flu was late October 2019. Right before the pandemic really took off

just curious, were you diagnosed with flu at a medical place or did you get very sick and assume due to your understanding of the symptoms?

i only ask because i got flu once, and it was before my first flu vaccine. i don't know what strain i got, but my doctor told me i had influenza. it is by far the sickest i have ever been. i was down BAD for a week and legit thought i might die. i used to get bad colds and bronchitis and **** regularly. some of those were worse than others and i thought the bad ones might have been flu.

nah, bruh. that **** hit DIFFERENT. of course that impacted my decision to always get a flu shot early and hope i never catch some uncovered strain.

sounds like you are averse to all kinds of vaccines. i completely get people's apprehension and concern about COVID-19 vaccines given they were developed very quickly in a global emergency situation. what do you think about childhood vaccines like the ones kids get against MMR, polio, etc. for school? just curious. are you against that kind of immunization as well?

When I had the flu in 2019 I went to a little walk-in rapid md down the block from my parents where I lived at the time. We all went together because we all got sick with whatever bug that was. It was classified as the flu by the doc we saw there. As far as the childhood vaccines… I have those all because you have no choice but to take them to attend school. I’ll probably be doing the same to my soon born daughter and future kids so they can attend school also. But now as an adult I have a choice. I just really don’t feel obligated to take this Covid vaccine at this time.

[Clyde_Style]

Me personally I’ve never taken a flu shot in my 30 years of living and luckily by the Grace of the man above I don’t really get sick with any thing too often. Coincidently actually last time I really got sick with the flu was late October 2019. Right before the pandemic really took off

just curious, were you diagnosed with flu at a medical place or did you get very sick and assume due to your understanding of the symptoms?

i only ask because i got flu once, and it was before my first flu vaccine. i don't know what strain i got, but my doctor told me i had influenza. it is by far the sickest i have ever been. i was down BAD for a week and legit thought i might die. i used to get bad colds and bronchitis and **** regularly. some of those were worse than others and i thought the bad ones might have been flu.

nah, bruh. that **** hit DIFFERENT. of course that impacted my decision to always get a flu shot early and hope i never catch some uncovered strain.

sounds like you are averse to all kinds of vaccines. i completely get people's apprehension and concern about COVID-19 vaccines given they were developed very quickly in a global emergency situation. what do you think about childhood vaccines like the ones kids get against MMR, polio, etc. for school? just curious. are you against that kind of immunization as well?

When I had the flu in 2019 I went to a little walk-in rapid md down the block from my parents where I lived at the time. We all went together because we all got sick with whatever bug that was. It was classified as the flu by the doc we saw there. As far as the childhood vaccines… I have those all because you have no choice but to take them to attend school. I’ll probably be doing the same to my soon born daughter and future kids so they can attend school also. But now as an adult I have a choice. I just really don’t feel obligated to take this Covid vaccine at this time.

FYI DaGawd I’ve never gotten a flu shot in my life. I might start, especially if it becomes an annual cocktail with covid updates.

It could be my constitution, but I have not had a cold or the flu in 30 years or so. I don’t take it for granted, but it also contrasts sharply with how I regarded covid. I got my vaccination immediately upon availability, because covid is unpredictable and if things go badly you’re very easy damaged for life or even six feet under. I never felt that way about the flu and went about my business my whole life without get a shot. Just sharing this because I really do believe anyone who does not have any medical complications preventing them should take their covid shots

[Jeff Van Gully]

just curious, were you diagnosed with flu at a medical place or did you get very sick and assume due to your understanding of the symptoms?

i only ask because i got flu once, and it was before my first flu vaccine. i don't know what strain i got, but my doctor told me i had influenza. it is by far the sickest i have ever been. i was down BAD for a week and legit thought i might die. i used to get bad colds and bronchitis and **** regularly. some of those were worse than others and i thought the bad ones might have been flu.

nah, bruh. that **** hit DIFFERENT. of course that impacted my decision to always get a flu shot early and hope i never catch some uncovered strain.

sounds like you are averse to all kinds of vaccines. i completely get people's apprehension and concern about COVID-19 vaccines given they were developed very quickly in a global emergency situation. what do you think about childhood vaccines like the ones kids get against MMR, polio, etc. for school? just curious. are you against that kind of immunization as well?

When I had the flu in 2019 I went to a little walk-in rapid md down the block from my parents where I lived at the time. We all went together because we all got sick with whatever bug that was. It was classified as the flu by the doc we saw there. As far as the childhood vaccines… I have those all because you have no choice but to take them to attend school. I’ll probably be doing the same to my soon born daughter and future kids so they can attend school also. But now as an adult I have a choice. I just really don’t feel obligated to take this Covid vaccine at this time.

FYI DaGawd I’ve never gotten a flu shot in my life. I might start, especially if it becomes an annual cocktail with covid updates.

It could be my constitution, but I have not had a cold or the flu in 30 years or so. I don’t take it for granted, but it also contrasts sharply with how I regarded covid. I got my vaccination immediately upon availability, because covid is unpredictable and if things go badly you’re very easy damaged for life or even six feet under. I never felt that way about the flu and went about my business my whole life without get a shot. Just sharing this because I really do believe anyone who does not have any medical complications preventing them should take their covid shots

you've been very fortunately with your health, clyde. may it long continue. i wish you both (and everyone around you) nothing but the best of health.

and if i can be an honest, trustworthy information resource to anyone in the community, i will.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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congratulations on your daughter on the way. i felt that joyful news deserves its own response.