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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#401 » by 2010 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 1:30 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:All the clowns that celebrated Randle getting COVID look dumb asf as usual


You that stupid that you expected us to get wins? We don’t want to watch your hero cuz we’d rather watch young players who actually play team ball and have a chance to grow here long term. You thumping your chest cuz we losing games. That’s exactly what we wanna do! Lose games with the kids and get a better pick. Who tf wanna lose games with iso-Randle and no development except you and a few other of his stans?

Nah y’all was beating y’all chest saying the Knicks were a much better team without Randle posting all these irrelevant stats and we can’t even beat two lottery teams. Now you tryna change the narrative saying nobody was expecting wins :lol: you can miss me with that bs


I don’t really care about wins and losses at this point, but Ima address this for argument’s sake.

Why you acting like the absence of Rose, Walker, Robinson, and Noel don’t matter? That’s 40% of our rotation out (not including Randle). You can’t beat your chest about how important Randle is until we are losing games with the rest of our player rotation intact.
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#402 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 3, 2022 2:53 am

2010 wrote:
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You that stupid that you expected us to get wins? We don’t want to watch your hero cuz we’d rather watch young players who actually play team ball and have a chance to grow here long term. You thumping your chest cuz we losing games. That’s exactly what we wanna do! Lose games with the kids and get a better pick. Who tf wanna lose games with iso-Randle and no development except you and a few other of his stans?

Nah y’all was beating y’all chest saying the Knicks were a much better team without Randle posting all these irrelevant stats and we can’t even beat two lottery teams. Now you tryna change the narrative saying nobody was expecting wins :lol: you can miss me with that bs


I don’t really care about wins and losses at this point, but Ima address this for argument’s sake.

Why you acting like the absence of Rose, Walker, Robinson, and Noel don’t matter? That’s 40% of our rotation out (not including Randle). You can’t beat your chest about how important Randle is until we are losing games with the rest of our player rotation intact.


Nobody was willing to roll out the excuse train for Randle all season long when we were missing most of those same players or last year when we also went the whole season without Robinson, Rose at least 1/3 of the season, Burks for long stretches, Payton as a starting PG. but he still managed to have the team at .569 last year and .485 this year (combined .542 in 107 games) instead of .000. That’s a very big drop off in winning percentage. 54.2% to 0%!!!!
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#403 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:26 am

I just got back from the lab where I have a crack team of mathematicians working on the above numbers, we have suffered a 100% decrease in winning percentage since Randle left and the stats show that this year when Randle plays it increases our win percentage by infinity. So the drop off is far worse than I ever imagined and may have implications about the entire universe
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#404 » by WargamesX » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:46 am

I am going to blow everyone’s mind in this thread….. Even if Randle plays this isn’t a good team and they are going to not have a good season. The season is only going to get harder and they just don’t look like they are focused on winning. This was a team that was the equivalent of a student that did extra homework to compensate for not being a talented test taker. Covid and a lot of other things have denied them the chance to do those pre-game and after game workouts and it’s reflected on the court.

The only real questions that matters with Randle is does the FO think this season is a aberration or last season?
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#405 » by G_K_F » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:01 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:
You that stupid that you expected us to get wins? We don’t want to watch your hero cuz we’d rather watch young players who actually play team ball and have a chance to grow here long term. You thumping your chest cuz we losing games. That’s exactly what we wanna do! Lose games with the kids and get a better pick. Who tf wanna lose games with iso-Randle and no development except you and a few other of his stans?

Nah y’all was beating y’all chest saying the Knicks were a much better team without Randle posting all these irrelevant stats and we can’t even beat two lottery teams. Now you tryna change the narrative saying nobody was expecting wins :lol: you can miss me with that bs


I don’t really care about wins and losses at this point, but Ima address this for argument’s sake.

Why you acting like the absence of Rose, Walker, Robinson, and Noel don’t matter? That’s 40% of our rotation out (not including Randle). You can’t beat your chest about how important Randle is until we are losing games with the rest of our player rotation intact.


Don't engage with herbs.

This was never about W/L. I'm actually rooting for the tank. I just wanted to see the young players get a chance instead of Randle dribbling for 20 seconds and playing 40 minutes every game. It was fun while it lasted. Now he'll be back again to get his empty stats. The black David Lee. Al Harrington 2.0. Corey Maggette reincarnated.
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#406 » by 2010 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:05 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Nah y’all was beating y’all chest saying the Knicks were a much better team without Randle posting all these irrelevant stats and we can’t even beat two lottery teams. Now you tryna change the narrative saying nobody was expecting wins :lol: you can miss me with that bs


I don’t really care about wins and losses at this point, but Ima address this for argument’s sake.

Why you acting like the absence of Rose, Walker, Robinson, and Noel don’t matter? That’s 40% of our rotation out (not including Randle). You can’t beat your chest about how important Randle is until we are losing games with the rest of our player rotation intact.


Don't engage with herbs.

This was never about W/L. I'm actually rooting for the tank. I just wanted to see the young players get a chance instead of Randle dribbling for 20 seconds and playing 40 minutes every game. It was fun while it lasted. Now he'll be back again to get his empty stats. The black David Lee. Al Harrington 2.0. Corey Maggette reincarnated.


This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#407 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:18 am

2010 wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
2010 wrote:
I don’t really care about wins and losses at this point, but Ima address this for argument’s sake.

Why you acting like the absence of Rose, Walker, Robinson, and Noel don’t matter? That’s 40% of our rotation out (not including Randle). You can’t beat your chest about how important Randle is until we are losing games with the rest of our player rotation intact.


Don't engage with herbs.

This was never about W/L. I'm actually rooting for the tank. I just wanted to see the young players get a chance instead of Randle dribbling for 20 seconds and playing 40 minutes every game. It was fun while it lasted. Now he'll be back again to get his empty stats. The black David Lee. Al Harrington 2.0. Corey Maggette reincarnated.


This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.


Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#408 » by G_K_F » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:33 am

robillionaire wrote:
2010 wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Don't engage with herbs.

This was never about W/L. I'm actually rooting for the tank. I just wanted to see the young players get a chance instead of Randle dribbling for 20 seconds and playing 40 minutes every game. It was fun while it lasted. Now he'll be back again to get his empty stats. The black David Lee. Al Harrington 2.0. Corey Maggette reincarnated.


This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.


Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative


I’m not sure how many times we have to say that Randle is not a good player but Randle is not a good player. His impact on wins and losses is minimal at best.
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#409 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 3, 2022 4:51 am

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robillionaire wrote:
2010 wrote:
This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.


Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative


I’m not sure how many times we have to say that Randle is not a good player but Randle is not a good player. His impact on wins and losses is minimal at best.


Yes that is an assertion that’s been made many times. However now that he’s missing games you finally have a chance to demonstrate the validity of your claim by having this team win at about the same rate (or even at all???) as we were with him. Thus far the only evidence we have are 2 really bad losses to bad teams and I gotta say to me this doesn’t look like a borderline playoff team or borderline .500 team it looks like the worst team in the NBA. So I am reluctant to accept your premise!
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#410 » by 2010 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 5:55 am

robillionaire wrote:
2010 wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Don't engage with herbs.

This was never about W/L. I'm actually rooting for the tank. I just wanted to see the young players get a chance instead of Randle dribbling for 20 seconds and playing 40 minutes every game. It was fun while it lasted. Now he'll be back again to get his empty stats. The black David Lee. Al Harrington 2.0. Corey Maggette reincarnated.


This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.


Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative


You can’t really have this conversation with any validity until Rose, Kemba, Mitch, and Noel are all back while Randle is sitting and we’re still losing.
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#411 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 3, 2022 9:17 am

2010 wrote:
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This is my stance as well. We could lose every game for the rest of the season with Randle sitting and I’d still be good. The brand of ball he plays when his 3pt shot isn’t falling is unwatchable. I can live with the losses when the kids are getting developmental minutes and we are improving our pick.


Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative


You can’t really have this conversation with any validity until Rose, Kemba, Mitch, and Noel are all back while Randle is sitting and we’re still losing.


If that’s your criteria we can probably never have it because the chances of those dudes ever being healthy all at the same time ever again are pretty much zip
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Re: Julius Randle Is In Health and Safety Protocols. 

Post#412 » by Zenzibar » Mon Jan 3, 2022 12:31 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Well that’s fine then, you guys admittedly want to lose as long as the players you like get minutes in losses, and in fact have been openly rooting for losses, and you are now getting that so I am happy for you

But that whole “there’s only one constant!!!” thing you been doing about Randle doesn’t hold up very good now. If we’re gonna get rid of Randle so we can lose fine let’s lose but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining by pretending like we’re going to be so much better w/o Randle and yes that’s been the narrative


I’m not sure how many times we have to say that Randle is not a good player but Randle is not a good player. His impact on wins and losses is minimal at best.


Yes that is an assertion that’s been made many times. However now that he’s missing games you finally have a chance to demonstrate the validity of your claim by having this team win at about the same rate (or even at all???) as we were with him. Thus far the only evidence we have are 2 really bad losses to bad teams and I gotta say to me this doesn’t look like a borderline playoff team or borderline .500 team it looks like the worst team in the NBA. So I am reluctant to accept your premise!


I think you're purposely missing the point. There is no question that Randle is a player that can get you 20 point, 12 rebounds and 5 assist on the regular.

What I've observed and what some are saying is that, Julius is playing like the 2019 version again and folks don't like it. The Carmelo Anthony iso ball is an era of Knicks basketball many rather forget but has resurrected this year with Randle.

Ref arguing, no defense, ball stolen or lost due to heavy dribbling has reached a crescendo of hatred on this board. Look at his numbers my Dude, it'll confirm what most are saying. But allow me to add, what most want is not really that Randle leave, but that THIS version of Randle disappears and last year's version returns.

If we're going to lose, let it be the right way, if there is such a thing. Tough defense, low turnovers, sharing the ball and making the smart play. How many times does Randle's man have wide open looks because Julius rather cheat to get a rebound that fly out? Or setting half-assed picks so that he can repost on the wing and get the ball.

That's what most fans are seeing and are pissed about my Dude.
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Post#413 » by god shammgod » Mon Jan 3, 2022 1:24 pm

who even wants the extra 5-10 wins we get with randle if that's the case anyway. it's just f*cking up our pick.
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Post#414 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:12 pm

I can't speak for others but...I wanted to see the kids play and get treated with the same energy the vets get. That hasn't happened. People were tired of seeing the offense run through Julius as well...so am I. When Kemba was going off ...we got that...until Randle shut it down that game. I don't recall anyone acting like the team would start winning without Randle though. I'm sure someone suggested as much but...most are more upset with the fact that we are committed to Randle with that ridiculous extension and Thibs is a vet hungry fool to boot. Vets getting minutes when they are clearly struggling and kids getting yanked when playing well.

Then Randle defenders act like there's nothing wrong with Randle. He's getting his. Yeah...no shyt. Low IQ... inefficient...ball dominant...spin cycle Randle is what we are getting. For near max money? It was a mistake the FO made and the fans are taking it out on Randle because...well... he's the guy in the line of sight. He also sucks for the role he's being asked to play. That's on Thibs.

All I see is another regime making the same TERRIBLE mistakes they all make. Taking the same approach they all take. What's the one constant in all of the suck we have had to endure?
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