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Randle's Future

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What would you do with Randle?

Poll ended at Sun Aug 4, 2024 1:01 pm

Keep him for this season, then let him walk
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12%
Extend him now (Aug 3 deadline)
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57%
Trade him now (add details in comments)
16
17%
Other (please put in comments)
13
14%
 
Total votes: 93

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#401 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:21 pm

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His shooting was definitely bad in the playoffs but it wasn't the reason we won or lost. Let's remember context:

Knicks as a whole vs. Atlanta in 21: .398 shooting
Randle shooting vs. Atlanta in 21: .298 shooting
Loss (Randle had the 3rd lowest net rating because he was double or triple teamed every time down and the rest of the team couldn't hit an open shot)

Knicks as a whole vs. Cleveland in 23: .430 shooting
Randle vs. Cleveland in 23: .338 shooting
Win (Randle had the 3rd lowest net rating because of amazing coverage by first team all-def and 3rd in DPY Evan Mobley)

Knicks as a whole vs. Miami in 23: .436 shooting
Randle vs Miami in 23: .411 shooting
Loss (Randle had the 3rd highest net rating on the team despite playing on one ankle)

I hear what you're saying.

It all boils down to this: He has the opportunity this playoffs to show what he's worth.

Jokes/Trolling aside, we can agree on this. If Randle is healthy this time around, he has to perform at a high level. I'm optimistic because he shot the ball better against the Heat with the best offensive rating on the team and a good net rating on one ankle. Looked like he was starting to figure things out. If he's healthy and flames out, then it will be in the best interests of the team to move on from him. But I'm optimistic it will work out, and I think the Knicks feel the same way since they aren't shopping him around or trying to move him right now.

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I'm tough on Randle, but I need him to bring it in the playoffs so we can beat the Celtics and win it all.

If he lights it up and we make a deep run, it would be crazy not to extend him to a fair deal .

If he goes ham and we win the championship?? Pay that man whatever kinda money he wants and run it back.

Then teams will be scrambling to find an answer to counter our style of play.
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#402 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:39 pm

I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).
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Post#403 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:49 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#404 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:42 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#405 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:11 pm

Begley saying Randle open to going to the bench.
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#406 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:28 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#407 » by JayTWill » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:58 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Begley saying Randle open to going to the bench.


Sometimes I feel like Randle's best role on a contender may be a 6th man/Bobby Portis 3rd big role but I can't imagine him going to the bench at this point for the Knicks.
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#408 » by aggo » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:59 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Begley saying Randle open to going to the bench.

is this real?
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#409 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:15 am

Im Coming Home wrote:Begley saying Randle open to going to the bench.

In a contract year after being an All-Star?

That would be crazy.
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Post#410 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:26 am

it was just ian begley answering a hypothetical question by a fan. nothing to see there
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#411 » by Davis18 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:37 am

Iron Mantis wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Begley saying Randle open to going to the bench.

In a contract year after being an All-Star?

That would be crazy.


It is all about the dollars.
He wouldn't mind where he is playing as long as he gets his max.
But no sensible team would pay bench player max money.
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#412 » by Fat Kat » Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:39 pm

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#413 » by aggo » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:21 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).



why do you think no one values Randle?
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#414 » by StlHawksFan » Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:34 pm

aggo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).



why do you think no one values Randle?


That's the word from Fred Katz. League source said his trade value is "neutral at best."

That means Knicks did shop him and got no interest.
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Post#415 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:10 am

StlHawksFan wrote:
aggo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:I think one of the reasons the Knicks aren't "shopping" Randle is that he's undevalued around the league relative to his value for the Knicks.

He turns 30 in November, he's a 4 with no positional versatility, he doesn't space the floor, and his defense has been inconsistent at best. You can imagine not too many teams would be interested in his profile.

Here? He's a good fit because our primary ball-handler isn't a great playmaker, and Randle happens to be a really good one for his position. He also provides scoring punch as a secondary that the team desperately needed before we acquired Mikal. Which isn't to say Randle's limitations haven't been a problem for us, but his strengths are highlighted here.

But with both Mikal and OG here, I think his strengths are less needed, his weaknesses arguably exacerbated.

I think only 3-4 teams would give up equal value for him. Teams desperate to make the playoffs, like Golden State or Houston, would be plausible candidates. Otherwise? I don't think he fits on too many teams (or their timeline).



why do you think no one values Randle?


That's the word from Fred Katz. League source said his trade value is "neutral at best."

That means Knicks did shop him and got no interest.


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Post#416 » by NYKinMIA » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:29 pm

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that seems insanely disrespectful to me.

let's hope it lights a big, roaring fire under his ass.
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Post#417 » by aggo » Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:50 pm

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that seems insanely disrespectful to me.

let's hope it lights a big, roaring fire under his ass.

I can't find a single player above randle there that is worse than him.


48 is generous. in fact, I would take sengun before randle.
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Post#418 » by DaGawd » Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:52 pm

aggo wrote:
NYKinMIA wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
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that seems insanely disrespectful to me.

let's hope it lights a big, roaring fire under his ass.

I can't find a single player above randle there that is worse than him.


48 is generous. in fact, I would take sengun before randle.

evan mobley, franz warner, lauri markkanen, siakam just to name a few at his own position
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Post#419 » by aggo » Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:13 pm

DaGawd wrote:
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NYKinMIA wrote:that seems insanely disrespectful to me.

let's hope it lights a big, roaring fire under his ass.

I can't find a single player above randle there that is worse than him.


48 is generous. in fact, I would take sengun before randle.

evan mobley, franz warner, lauri markkanen, siakam just to name a few at his own position


all of those guys are better than randle


and they all just got paid, in some cases more than we can even currently offer randle.
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Post#420 » by DaGawd » Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:19 pm

aggo wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
aggo wrote:I can't find a single player above randle there that is worse than him.


48 is generous. in fact, I would take sengun before randle.

evan mobley, franz warner, lauri markkanen, siakam just to name a few at his own position


all of those guys are better than randle


and they all just got paid, in some cases more than we can even currently offer randle.

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