Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[Knick4Real]

It's too bad it appears we're at the end of the line with Mitch. The Mitch we knew from a year or 2 ago would be perfect for this team. However, having not played a single game in a year is a definite concern. We can't realistically expect him to come back now and magically be a difference maker after a year off.

Let's not forget why Mitch re-injured his ankle and is out and why we're in need of a trade.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Burks is washed. Payne is a better defender even giving up height. I also dislike Burks thinking he's better than he is and kind of dominating the ball.

Hence why we get compensation. I think that at that salary level we are not getting anyone spectacular. Burks is able to be a low-level 3-D type that as a depth piece (situational, injury) can be helpful.

Payne is a good spark plug, but Kolek is good and Shamet seems to be a guy we have been corralling all year (signed him, released him, paid for him to re-hab on our gleague, and now on the big club)

Koleks passing is reminiscent of Nash(mavs), JWill(kings). Only so many seats on this boat.

Kolek has no doubt elevated his value between G-league and his flashes of elite vision and passing on rhe NBA level.

Is a package of some combination Kolek, Dadiet, 2030 1st round swap and Wash 1st enough for Kessler? It might be, but it would all come down to how much Ainge likes those 2 players.

No, it won't be even close.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

He's RFA in the summer after next (26/27). Not a lot of time.
I agree with the other points, but I am not wasting all of my assets for him as the piece.

It is more time than some of the other options that expire at end of this year. And to me Kolek who I like a lot is not nearly the need an elite rim protector would be to complement KAT at the 5 would be.

Bottomline does Kessler make us a clealry better team in Thibs system than Kolek would who is partially blocked by Brunson? Absolutely.

If you could get Kessler for Kolek and the WAS pick with Sims being the cap filler you do it without thinking about it. You probably also do it if Pacome is included instead of Sims.

With Kessler, you give him Isiah Hartenstein's contract after 2 years, as you beef up for your 2 years in the apron. Given how all in this team is, you have to go for it.

Of course, Utah is looking for high upside first rd picks which is why this is a moot point.

This.

[nykballa2k4]

It is more time than some of the other options that expire at end of this year. And to me Kolek who I like a lot is not nearly the need an elite rim protector would be to complement KAT at the 5 would be.

Bottomline does Kessler make us a clealry better team in Thibs system than Kolek would who is partially blocked by Brunson? Absolutely.

If you could get Kessler for Kolek and the WAS pick with Sims being the cap filler you do it without thinking about it. You probably also do it if Pacome is included instead of Sims.

With Kessler, you give him Isiah Hartenstein's contract after 2 years, as you beef up for your 2 years in the apron. Given how all in this team is, you have to go for it.

Of course, Utah is looking for high upside first rd picks which is why this is a moot point.

Dawg it no doubt wouldcome down to what Ainge a former guard sees in Kolek. Does he love his court vision and passing ability to think he will be a legit starter and offense creator in this league? If so that is def worth more than a mid first round pick.

Not sold that Kessler is anything special. I get that if you frame it as SRP, Sims and moderate FRP for Kessler, that's a good value. I just am not in the market to get fleeced.

[G_K_F]

Just trade Mitch Rob. His career will be over in another 203 years max.

Move on and try to get something while you can.

[WargamesX]

Ogbaji makes 4.3 million….. why would he be traded more Mitch? It would make more sense to send them Prescious. Who Masai was a fan of before he was traded.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You guys really have to stop throwing in names of young players on rookie deals, nobody is giving up a decent young player for anything we're offering.

[nykballa2k4]

It's too bad it appears we're at the end of the line with Mitch. The Mitch we knew from a year or 2 ago would be perfect for this team. However, having not played a single game in a year is a definite concern. We can't realistically expect him to come back now and magically be a difference maker after a year off.

Let's not forget why Mitch re-injured his ankle and is out and why we're in need of a trade.

The fact that there was no brawl when Embiid did that is tragic.
That's really what we need Sims to be out there for. We need a Kurt Thomas/Oak type who will get in anyones face. Portis would have broke Embiids face for sure.

[KnixinSix]

Hence why we get compensation. I think that at that salary level we are not getting anyone spectacular. Burks is able to be a low-level 3-D type that as a depth piece (situational, injury) can be helpful.

Payne is a good spark plug, but Kolek is good and Shamet seems to be a guy we have been corralling all year (signed him, released him, paid for him to re-hab on our gleague, and now on the big club)

Koleks passing is reminiscent of Nash(mavs), JWill(kings). Only so many seats on this boat.

Kolek has no doubt elevated his value between G-league and his flashes of elite vision and passing on rhe NBA level.

Is a package of some combination Kolek, Dadiet, 2030 1st round swap and Wash 1st enough for Kessler? It might be, but it would all come down to how much Ainge likes those 2 players.

No, it won't be even close.

Just like how you laughed at the prospects of us trading for KAT, Bridges and OG?

[KnixinSix]

It's too bad it appears we're at the end of the line with Mitch. The Mitch we knew from a year or 2 ago would be perfect for this team. However, having not played a single game in a year is a definite concern. We can't realistically expect him to come back now and magically be a difference maker after a year off.

Let's not forget why Mitch re-injured his ankle and is out and why we're in need of a trade.

The fact that there was no brawl when Embiid did that is tragic.
That's really what we need Sims to be out there for. We need a Kurt Thomas/Oak type who will get in anyones face. Portis would have broke Embiids face for sure.

Isaiah Stewart as an enforcer?

[Spree2Houston]

I would keep Mitch. He’ll have more value as an expiring contract in the off-season

[KnixinSix]

I just read an article stating the Knicks are considering trading Kolek and 5 future draft picks for Walter Kessler of the Jazz.

Quite a few of those would need to be 2ND RPs but I could absolutely see this happening.

[KnixinSix]

If you could get Kessler for Kolek and the WAS pick with Sims being the cap filler you do it without thinking about it. You probably also do it if Pacome is included instead of Sims.

With Kessler, you give him Isiah Hartenstein's contract after 2 years, as you beef up for your 2 years in the apron. Given how all in this team is, you have to go for it.

Of course, Utah is looking for high upside first rd picks which is why this is a moot point.

Dawg it no doubt wouldcome down to what Ainge a former guard sees in Kolek. Does he love his court vision and passing ability to think he will be a legit starter and offense creator in this league? If so that is def worth more than a mid first round pick.

Not sold that Kessler is anything special. I get that if you frame it as SRP, Sims and moderate FRP for Kessler, that's a good value. I just am not in the market to get fleeced.

He doesn't need to be. He just needs to provide what our current roster construction is missing most. And he does. The trade obviously isnt going to be near what we gave up for Bridges either.

[KnixinSix]

I would keep Mitch. He’ll have more value as an expiring contract in the off-season

If you trade for a Kessler let's say, he is super cheap contract wise and wouldn't need Mitch to salary match.

[nykballa2k4]

It's too bad it appears we're at the end of the line with Mitch. The Mitch we knew from a year or 2 ago would be perfect for this team. However, having not played a single game in a year is a definite concern. We can't realistically expect him to come back now and magically be a difference maker after a year off.

Let's not forget why Mitch re-injured his ankle and is out and why we're in need of a trade.

The fact that there was no brawl when Embiid did that is tragic.
That's really what we need Sims to be out there for. We need a Kurt Thomas/Oak type who will get in anyones face. Portis would have broke Embiids face for sure.

Isaiah Stewart as an enforcer?

Would be awesome

[WaltFrazier]

Ogbaji is well-liked in Toronto. He plays almost 30 minutes a game. He is not a throw-in on a trade.
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I’ve always liked Boucher, but let’s be real, he’s not even big for a 4 and he isn’t the impact player Kessler, Stewart or Turner would be. Maybe that is precisely why we could get him, as there is little indication or feasibility as to why the others should really be dealt to us. I like that Boucher can block shots and drain threes, so he’d be nice off the bench. I would love to get a better and bigger player though (and honestly Mitch is/was both). Ogbaji is good…

Boucher has positional versatility and would allow us to be a switching defense even moreso than we are doing right now. A few times vs Nuggs Bridges ended up on Jokic. Boucher would be a better switchable frontcourt guy.

The ideal is another elite rim protecting 6'11/7 footer behind KAT but short of that a Boucher or Stewart might not be a bad consolation prize.

All those things are true about Boucher's versatile switchable D. On the perimeter. Pretty good at coming from weakside for blocks, very good at flying out on closeouts. But not for Mitch.

[HarthorneWingo]

If Mitch comes back, he solves the front court depth problem, or at least the quality depth problem, until that time, if ever, Hukporti is decent.

Like Channel pointed out, like everyone sees, they need that quality wing to cut into the Bridges/OG/Hart minutes, someone who is 6'7" to 6'9" instead of 6'4" or less, like the rest of the back court reserves

I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but why not at least give Chuma a shot to see what we have in him before giving away assets for someone who's not much better? He's 6-7, I believe, and a solid 3&D type. Don't get me wrong, I agree that we have too many non-playable players on the roster as you noted above, and some of them should be moved.

[thebuzzardman]

If Mitch comes back, he solves the front court depth problem, or at least the quality depth problem, until that time, if ever, Hukporti is decent.

Like Channel pointed out, like everyone sees, they need that quality wing to cut into the Bridges/OG/Hart minutes, someone who is 6'7" to 6'9" instead of 6'4" or less, like the rest of the back court reserves

I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but why not at least give Chuma a shot to see what we have in him before giving away assets for someone who's not much better? He's 6-7, I believe, and a solid 3&D type. Don't get me wrong, I agree that we have too many non-playable players on the roster as you noted above, and some of them should be moved.

Lance McCullers is back to solve all the backup wing problems!

Knicks can trade Dadiet now

[HarthorneWingo]

If Mitch comes back, he solves the front court depth problem, or at least the quality depth problem, until that time, if ever, Hukporti is decent.

Like Channel pointed out, like everyone sees, they need that quality wing to cut into the Bridges/OG/Hart minutes, someone who is 6'7" to 6'9" instead of 6'4" or less, like the rest of the back court reserves

I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but why not at least give Chuma a shot to see what we have in him before giving away assets for someone who's not much better? He's 6-7, I believe, and a solid 3&D type. Don't get me wrong, I agree that we have too many non-playable players on the roster as you noted above, and some of them should be moved.

Lance McCullers is back to solve all the backup wing problems!

Knicks can trade Dadiet now

You and Bluntstoned ... I can't tell if you guys are being serious or just trolling.

[thebuzzardman]

I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but why not at least give Chuma a shot to see what we have in him before giving away assets for someone who's not much better? He's 6-7, I believe, and a solid 3&D type. Don't get me wrong, I agree that we have too many non-playable players on the roster as you noted above, and some of them should be moved.

Lance McCullers is back to solve all the backup wing problems!

Knicks can trade Dadiet now

You and Bluntstoned ... I can't tell if you guys are being serious or just trolling.

I was joking but McCullar is going to be good