Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[3toheadmelo]

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Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is

it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it

but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.

Yea i think after we fired thibs that pretty much penciled in kat in a knick uniform for at least until the trade deadline. Bad decision.

i agree that no matter who the coach is that brunson and kat wont work at all. you cant win with two massive sieves on defense.

im sure there's gonna be more teams that will try to improve too. rumors are the raptors want to trade rj and iq to get a big upgrade. might even be willing to trade their lotto pick for kd. with tatum's injury i would use this year as our main window to try and win it all before he comes back but it sounds like the knicks seem content with running it back and didn't even have a plan after they fired thibs. tough times.

[dukeknicksirish]

NYK out: Mitch, Hart, Kolek
NYK in: IQ, Mogbo, #45 (sac via Chicago)
Why?: secondary playmaker locked in, probability of not affording Mitch, Kolek becomes irrelevant need

LAL out: Rui, Knecht, 2nd round pick
LAL in: Mitch
Why?: Lakers desperate for a center

TOR out: IQ, Mogbo
TOR in: Rui (expiring), Knecht, Hart, LAL 2nd
Why?: Cap relief, affordable contracts

CHI out: #45
CHI in: Kolek
Why?: they won’t get a better player at pick 45

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2026 New York Knicks

KAT/Huk/Horford
OG/Mogbo/#55
Mikal/Dadiet
IQ/McBride
Brunson/Brogdon/#45

This team above is a championship team folks!!!!

[Fat Kat]

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[god shammgod]

I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.

i don't agree with this. I think history has shown that teams where he plays center have a ceiling. i'm hoping they're not gonna start him there next year again. my guess is they won't because playing that failing starting lineup seemed to be a point of contention between thibs and management. they supposedly wanted mitch to start during the boston series. and duece/brunson are just too small to start together in the backcourt.

and yes they should get another big even if they keep kat. but how ? they really have little to no money to spend. they also need more playmaking and shooting in the starting lineup. they can't fix it all with the pieces they have. so i continue to think that there have to be roster changes and one of mikal or kat has to be the guy to go to make that happen. and i don't think mikal can be treated for a similar level player as easily as kat can right now.

I should have a stated I think he's fine in regular season as a center. In the playoffs certain matchups he can get exploited there especially if they are also targeting brunson as well.

fine enough to have a decent record, sure. but we weren't beating any good teams in the regular season and the starting lineup was negative for a large part of the season. i would rather he only ever player center vs backups.

[KnixinSix]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280796/Grizzlies-Previously-Had-Trade-Interest-In-Franz-Wagner

In this article it states Memphis went hard after both Bridges and OG in prior seasons. Do they want either now? Or did they make the move already knowing they can secure JJJ to a long term deal

[mpharris36]

i don't agree with this. I think history has shown that teams where he plays center have a ceiling. i'm hoping they're not gonna start him there next year again. my guess is they won't because playing that failing starting lineup seemed to be a point of contention between thibs and management. they supposedly wanted mitch to start during the boston series. and duece/brunson are just too small to start together in the backcourt.

and yes they should get another big even if they keep kat. but how ? they really have little to no money to spend. they also need more playmaking and shooting in the starting lineup. they can't fix it all with the pieces they have. so i continue to think that there have to be roster changes and one of mikal or kat has to be the guy to go to make that happen. and i don't think mikal can be treated for a similar level player as easily as kat can right now.

I should have a stated I think he's fine in regular season as a center. In the playoffs certain matchups he can get exploited there especially if they are also targeting brunson as well.

fine enough to have a decent record, sure. but we weren't beating any good teams in the regular season and the starting lineup was negative for a large part of the season. i would rather he only ever player center vs backups.

I personally think a lot of that had to do with Thibs. I know you don't feel the same way but he never attempted to run 5-out vs any of those teams.

We were so predictable.

At the end of the day KAT had our highest +/- was KAT and he played a vast majority of his minutes at the cente.r

[Jalen Bluntson]

The Triple J trade discussion thread.
I guess we could wait to see who the next HC is but, are there any other players besides JJJ/KD/Giannis to discuss?

[dukeknicksirish]

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[god shammgod]

The Triple J trade discussion thread.
I guess we could wait to see who the next HC is but, are there any other players besides JJJ/KD/Giannis to discuss?

there are no actual jjj rumors even. just fan wishes.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280796/Grizzlies-Previously-Had-Trade-Interest-In-Franz-Wagner

In this article it states Memphis went hard after both Bridges and OG in prior seasons. Do they want either now? Or did they make the move already knowing they can secure JJJ to a long term deal

I'll go with the last part. Plus they saw Bridges continued his downward ppg career decline with the Knicks this season, and one year from needing a new contract.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I should have a stated I think he's fine in regular season as a center. In the playoffs certain matchups he can get exploited there especially if they are also targeting brunson as well.

fine enough to have a decent record, sure. but we weren't beating any good teams in the regular season and the starting lineup was negative for a large part of the season. i would rather he only ever player center vs backups.

I personally think a lot of that had to do with Thibs. I know you don't feel the same way but he never attempted to run 5-out vs any of those teams.

We were so predictable.

At the end of the day KAT had our highest +/- was KAT and he played a vast majority of his minutes at the cente.r

Center on Hart. Wing on KAT. Full court pressure on JB. That's what teams did. They also saved their legs for later in the game knowing we would be gassed. We never adjusted. We never expanded the rotation. We never did anything different.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The Triple J trade discussion thread.
I guess we could wait to see who the next HC is but, are there any other players besides JJJ/KD/Giannis to discuss?

there are no actual jjj rumors even. just fan wishes.

Rumors that someone in the FO likes JJJ and there are connections to his father. Knicks for clicks.

I just wish the discussion wasn't so isolated. Like, the CBA is making it difficult for many teams to do anything major. Especially contenders. It's ridiculous honestly. Teams are having a hard time keeping together as it is.

It is all hampered by not having a HC yet to build a team for. The discussion should evolve after that. The offseason is just getting started with this Bane trade. The finals will be over soon enough.

[WargamesX]

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Harris is cooked…. He had a good career.

[WargamesX]

The Triple J trade discussion thread.
I guess we could wait to see who the next HC is but, are there any other players besides JJJ/KD/Giannis to discuss?

there are no actual jjj rumors even. just fan wishes.

Rumors that someone in the FO likes JJJ and there are connections to his father. Knicks for clicks.

I just wish the discussion wasn't so isolated. Like, the CBA is making it difficult for many teams to do anything major. Especially contenders. It's ridiculous honestly. Teams are having a hard time keeping together as it is.

It is all hampered by not having a HC yet to build a team for. The discussion should evolve after that. The offseason is just getting started with this Bane trade. The finals will be over soon enough.

One of the underrated aspects of this CBA is the difficulty it is to get salaries to add up to to larger salaries. Like next season Booker might get offered $75 mil a year. How does anyone trade for him? Honestly how do you build around him either at that amount. A trade waiver system needs to be implemented where like a kicker some part of the salary isn’t counted for trade matching purposes though it will count on both teams books.

[Blockwatcher]

But we need to sell high on OG... imo even with Casey Smith's worldclass conditioning team on our team having OG healthy for 2 consecutive seasons is unlikely imo... you all remember how made of glass he was before this 2024-25 season?? His defense was so so in the Pacers series... offense very inconsistent in playoffs... this was his best push to make All Star Team and DPOY he didn't make the AS Team and wasn't even close to DPOY (wasn't even named to All NBA Defensive Teams)

I agree. Especially if the rockets offer the package that’s been posted. When they swing and miss for Durant OG could be the move.
Also, OG kinda went against the family last summer when he delayed and asked for more money.

[Richard4444]

there are no actual jjj rumors even. just fan wishes.

Rumors that someone in the FO likes JJJ and there are connections to his father. Knicks for clicks.

I just wish the discussion wasn't so isolated. Like, the CBA is making it difficult for many teams to do anything major. Especially contenders. It's ridiculous honestly. Teams are having a hard time keeping together as it is.

It is all hampered by not having a HC yet to build a team for. The discussion should evolve after that. The offseason is just getting started with this Bane trade. The finals will be over soon enough.

One of the underrated aspects of this CBA is the difficulty it is to get salaries to add up to to larger salaries. Like next season Booker might get offered $75 mil a year. How does anyone trade for him? Honestly how do you build around him either at that amount. A trade waiver system needs to be implemented where like a kicker some part of the salary isn’t counted for trade matching purposes though it will count on both teams books.

But Booker, will get just 35% of the salaey cap in 2028 and 2029 seasons.

In 2028 and 2029, the salary cap will be 206M and 226M, respectively,

[WargamesX]

Rumors that someone in the FO likes JJJ and there are connections to his father. Knicks for clicks.

I just wish the discussion wasn't so isolated. Like, the CBA is making it difficult for many teams to do anything major. Especially contenders. It's ridiculous honestly. Teams are having a hard time keeping together as it is.

It is all hampered by not having a HC yet to build a team for. The discussion should evolve after that. The offseason is just getting started with this Bane trade. The finals will be over soon enough.

One of the underrated aspects of this CBA is the difficulty it is to get salaries to add up to to larger salaries. Like next season Booker might get offered $75 mil a year. How does anyone trade for him? Honestly how do you build around him either at that amount. A trade waiver system needs to be implemented where like a kicker some part of the salary isn’t counted for trade matching purposes though it will count on both teams books.

But Booker, will get just 35% of the cap space in 2028 and 2029 seasons.

In 2028 and 2029, the cap space will be 206M and 226M, respectively,

But that increase is also why there should have been waivers implemented into the system. Year from year the increase makes matching salaries that much harder. It’s not about how much a player makes it’s just the the growth makes matching salaries difficult because the base line is jumping up every year.

Or even better for the sake of trades allow them to be matched based on percentage of salary cap at the time of signing or maybe the Mean percentage the contract would be of the salary cap for the lifetime of the contract.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Rumors that someone in the FO likes JJJ and there are connections to his father. Knicks for clicks.

I just wish the discussion wasn't so isolated. Like, the CBA is making it difficult for many teams to do anything major. Especially contenders. It's ridiculous honestly. Teams are having a hard time keeping together as it is.

It is all hampered by not having a HC yet to build a team for. The discussion should evolve after that. The offseason is just getting started with this Bane trade. The finals will be over soon enough.

One of the underrated aspects of this CBA is the difficulty it is to get salaries to add up to to larger salaries. Like next season Booker might get offered $75 mil a year. How does anyone trade for him? Honestly how do you build around him either at that amount. A trade waiver system needs to be implemented where like a kicker some part of the salary isn’t counted for trade matching purposes though it will count on both teams books.

But Booker, will get just 35% of the cap space in 2028 and 2029 seasons.

In 2028 and 2029, the cap space will be 206M and 226M, respectively,

First apron?

[Bob Ross]

Triple J is a pipe dream. They're locking him up now

[jvsimonetti0514]

The starting line ups being a net negative post January 1st had more to do with hart than it did towns IMO. New scheme, more minutes for deuce, and depending on Dadiet development could really push the offense to a whole other level.

With all that being said, I’m curious on what the knicks could get for hart? Wonder if you could turn him into 2 role players? Malik Monk makes the same amount of money as Hart. Does that make sense for us? He’s a shot creator and another playmaker.