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Flo288 wrote:Greg Oden??? He may be a cheap option to try and fill one of our big man problems. What does everyone think about him?
By the way, I am new to this forum. I enjoy reading everyones post!
Flo288 wrote:Greg Oden with Willie Cauley-Stein or Greg Monroe, add a FA sg like Wes Matthews, Melo, then sign a good PG to run the show and we've got ourselves a nice squad!
Juco24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238201/DeMarre-Carroll-Could-Get-Four-Year-$50M-Deal-In-Free-Agency.
That doesn't like a bad price, imo. This is one guy I'd really like to see in a Knicks uni.
Capn'O wrote:If we're going for centers decimated by injury - I'll take Bynum 7 days a week and twice on Sundays before Oden. I loved him as a prospect but "Peg Leg" Greg has just never had a healthy stretch.
siar617 wrote:Juco24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238201/DeMarre-Carroll-Could-Get-Four-Year-$50M-Deal-In-Free-Agency.
That doesn't like a bad price, imo. This is one guy I'd really like to see in a Knicks uni.
I been advocating for him for ahwile but that might be too much. Not that he isn't worth it but I think we need to add three key free agents. If he's getting 12.5 look towards Green or Mathews for cheaper deals first.
mpharris36 wrote:siar617 wrote:Juco24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238201/DeMarre-Carroll-Could-Get-Four-Year-$50M-Deal-In-Free-Agency.
That doesn't like a bad price, imo. This is one guy I'd really like to see in a Knicks uni.
I been advocating for him for ahwile but that might be too much. Not that he isn't worth it but I think we need to add three key free agents. If he's getting 12.5 look towards Green or Mathews for cheaper deals first.
and if he is getting normal 15% raises that 1st year salary would be around 10 million.
Year 1 - 10 million
Year 2 - 11.5 million
Year 3 - 13.2 million
Year 4 - 15.3 million
comes out to 50 million over 4 years.
mpharris36 wrote:siar617 wrote:Juco24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238201/DeMarre-Carroll-Could-Get-Four-Year-$50M-Deal-In-Free-Agency.
That doesn't like a bad price, imo. This is one guy I'd really like to see in a Knicks uni.
I been advocating for him for ahwile but that might be too much. Not that he isn't worth it but I think we need to add three key free agents. If he's getting 12.5 look towards Green or Mathews for cheaper deals first.
and if he is getting normal 15% raises that 1st year salary would be around 10 million.
Year 1 - 10 million
Year 2 - 11.5 million
Year 3 - 13.2 million
Year 4 - 15.3 million
comes out to 50 million over 4 years.
kej718 wrote:hands11 wrote:brooklynoxy wrote:
It took me a day and a close watch of Mudiay's work-out tape to change my mind about this kid! He is a BIG point guard whose jump shot looks better than Rondo's and everything else about his game is well above average, according to the scouting reports. Like you, I believe in Phil's plan—whatever it ends up being!
I would love the Knicks to get Willie Stein—if Phil can get a second pick, but it will be difficult to get a top 10 one for $3.5 Million, Calderon, and Timmy.
Yes.. Looking forward to seeing Phil do his thing. His hands have mostly be tied so far.
First thing he needed to do is what he did. Be patient, clear cap, sink and get a high pick in the good draft.
Stage 1 is the tear down and it looks like he did that.
Normally a team would want to stink another year but NY already has Melo and that's going to be huge for them. Specially since every team in the conference has to get past CLE and LeBron. Melo has the size to match up with LeBron and he clearly can score so they already have that covered and that's huge. That's a really hard piece to find. Teams tank for several years and have to get really lucky to find that piece and then they take years to develop. Melo in hand and experienced is huge. He just needs Phil to Zen Master his mind and turn him into a true winner.
Knicks need to pick quality players with the right personalities but if they do this right, they can jump quickly over the next two years and get right back into top 3-4 in the conference.
It might not look like it right now, but NY with Melo and IND with Paul George will be two the team to look out for.
CLE is already there.
Wizards if they land KD
That could be a pretty nasty top 4. In 2 years, the East could look every different and no one will be talking about how much better the West is since the East will have LeBron, KD, Melo and Paul George and that's pretty much the best SF talent in the league.
Teams like TOR will fall back in the pack. ATL will need to retool some. They will stay a playoff team but they will fall back. CHI has their work cut out but can stay in it but finally got a new coach. Gotta see how that works out. MIL is on the rise but the hill is about to get steeper.
So I see NY being top 4 in the next two years. Just have to have some patience.
Don't sleep on Miami, or a healthy Chicago team (who knows what will happen in free agency).
hands11 wrote:kej718 wrote:hands11 wrote:
Yes.. Looking forward to seeing Phil do his thing. His hands have mostly be tied so far.
First thing he needed to do is what he did. Be patient, clear cap, sink and get a high pick in the good draft.
Stage 1 is the tear down and it looks like he did that.
Normally a team would want to stink another year but NY already has Melo and that's going to be huge for them. Specially since every team in the conference has to get past CLE and LeBron. Melo has the size to match up with LeBron and he clearly can score so they already have that covered and that's huge. That's a really hard piece to find. Teams tank for several years and have to get really lucky to find that piece and then they take years to develop. Melo in hand and experienced is huge. He just needs Phil to Zen Master his mind and turn him into a true winner.
Knicks need to pick quality players with the right personalities but if they do this right, they can jump quickly over the next two years and get right back into top 3-4 in the conference.
It might not look like it right now, but NY with Melo and IND with Paul George will be two the team to look out for.
CLE is already there.
Wizards if they land KD
That could be a pretty nasty top 4. In 2 years, the East could look every different and no one will be talking about how much better the West is since the East will have LeBron, KD, Melo and Paul George and that's pretty much the best SF talent in the league.
Teams like TOR will fall back in the pack. ATL will need to retool some. They will stay a playoff team but they will fall back. CHI has their work cut out but can stay in it but finally got a new coach. Gotta see how that works out. MIL is on the rise but the hill is about to get steeper.
So I see NY being top 4 in the next two years. Just have to have some patience.
Don't sleep on Miami, or a healthy Chicago team (who knows what will happen in free agency).
Sure. MIA would be in there but I want to see what happens with Wade. He wants to be paid but he is breaking down.
CHI...sure.. but I don't trust their owners. But looking forward to seeing the new HC.
kej718 wrote:hands11 wrote:kej718 wrote:
Don't sleep on Miami, or a healthy Chicago team (who knows what will happen in free agency).
Sure. MIA would be in there but I want to see what happens with Wade. He wants to be paid but he is breaking down.
CHI...sure.. but I don't trust their owners. But looking forward to seeing the new HC.
What if Chicago got a Wade or Mathews to add to the roster?
Capn'O wrote:If we're going for centers decimated by injury - I'll take Bynum 7 days a week and twice on Sundays before Oden. I loved him as a prospect but "Peg Leg" Greg has just never had a healthy stretch.
mpharris36 wrote:siar617 wrote:Juco24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238201/DeMarre-Carroll-Could-Get-Four-Year-$50M-Deal-In-Free-Agency.
That doesn't like a bad price, imo. This is one guy I'd really like to see in a Knicks uni.
I been advocating for him for ahwile but that might be too much. Not that he isn't worth it but I think we need to add three key free agents. If he's getting 12.5 look towards Green or Mathews for cheaper deals first.
and if he is getting normal 15% raises that 1st year salary would be around 10 million.
Year 1 - 10 million
Year 2 - 11.5 million
Year 3 - 13.2 million
Year 4 - 15.3 million
comes out to 50 million over 4 years.