Woj: Pierce and Garnett to Brooklyn?!?

[vallen]

Fun facts:

Brooklyn's payroll will be about $100 million, with 82 million going to their starting five.

They'll will be paying about $80 million in lux tax because of this deal.

And KG's salary for 2014-15 will be fully guaranteed.

Must be nice to have a billionaire who don't give a f*ck for an owner.

we did once too, but he preferred players like Jerome James, Eddy Curry and Stephon Marbury.

[makeitstop]

Fun facts:

Brooklyn's payroll will be about $100 million, with 82 million going to their starting five.

They'll will be paying about $80 million in lux tax because of this deal.

And KG's salary for 2014-15 will be fully guaranteed.

Must be nice to have a billionaire who don't give a f*ck for an owner.

we did once too, but he preferred players like Jerome James, Eddy Curry and Stephon Marbury.

Point taken.

[K_ick_God]

Well it's a Blueprint finally. Just an aging one.

Looks great on paper, I think they'll be pretty good. But it's a highly mortgaged and probably pretender team.

They're in decline all over the place except center and maybe MarShon if he gets a shot now.

Impressive work *on its face and on paper* but at a high cost which makes it not that impressive.

They're trying to take over as the spot in NY for free agents, because they can't build a team by the draft this way obviously.

[makeitstop]

Well it's a Blueprint finally. Just an aging one.

Looks great on paper, I think they'll be pretty good. But it's a highly mortgaged and probably pretender team.

They're in decline all over the place except center and maybe MarShon if he gets a shot now.

Impressive work *on its face and on paper* but at a high cost which makes it not that impressive.

They're trying to take over as the spot in NY for free agents, because they can't build a team by the draft this way obviously.

Marshon went to BOS.

Final Nets/Celts trade: KJoseph, MBrooks, GWallace, KHumphries, KBogans, 1st rnd picks 2014, 2016, 2018 for KG, Pierce, Terry....

[K_ick_God]

Well it's a Blueprint finally. Just an aging one.

Looks great on paper, I think they'll be pretty good. But it's a highly mortgaged and probably pretender team.

They're in decline all over the place except center and maybe MarShon if he gets a shot now.

Impressive work *on its face and on paper* but at a high cost which makes it not that impressive.

They're trying to take over as the spot in NY for free agents, because they can't build a team by the draft this way obviously.

Marshon went to BOS.

Final Nets/Celts trade: KJoseph, MBrooks, GWallace, KHumphries, KBogans, 1st rnd picks 2014, 2016, 2018 for KG, Pierce, Terry....

Ooops I missed that. Then only one good young player left.

What's the word on protections?

[ctorres]

Who's all on the Nets roster now? I'm having trouble finding an updated on after the trade.

[makeitstop]

Ooops I missed that. Then only one good young player left.

What's the word on protections?

Top 3, I think. Could be wrong on that, though.

[god shammgod]

Well it's a Blueprint finally. Just an aging one.

Looks great on paper, I think they'll be pretty good. But it's a highly mortgaged and probably pretender team.

They're in decline all over the place except center and maybe MarShon if he gets a shot now.

Impressive work *on its face and on paper* but at a high cost which makes it not that impressive.

They're trying to take over as the spot in NY for free agents, because they can't build a team by the draft this way obviously.

Marshon went to BOS.

Final Nets/Celts trade: KJoseph, MBrooks, GWallace, KHumphries, KBogans, 1st rnd picks 2014, 2016, 2018 for KG, Pierce, Terry....

Ooops I missed that. Then only one good young player left.

What's the word on protections?

i believe there is some protection on 2014 (which is part of a pick swap from the jj trade anyway). the other 2 are unprotected.

[Oscirus]

2 unprotected picks, 1 protected pick and the right to swap picks in 2017 is a lot for two players who likely won't last more then two years. I guess they got rid of Wallace's contract? This seems like a jets move to me. A good trade that garners press but it winds up screwing ya in the long run

[makeitstop]

Ooops I missed that. Then only one good young player left.

What's the word on protections?

i believe there is some protection on 2014 (which is part of a pick swap from the jj trade anyway). the other 2 are unprotected.

Correct. I was just coming back to edit my post, but never mind.

[fresko024]

they might be good for half a season. i still think we'll be a better all around team than the Nets..

[makeitstop]

2 unprotected picks, 1 protected pick and the right to swap picks in 2017 is a lot for two players who likely won't last more then two years. I guess they got rid of Wallace's contract? This seems like a jets move to me. A good trade that garners press but it winds up screwing ya in the long run

I still can't believe they agreed to a full guarantee on KG's last year. From what I'm reading, KG only agreed to the trade if he got a full G on his last year.

Nyets better hope he lasts that long. Wasn't he considering retirement?

[K_ick_God]

That's a very dangerous lack of protection just to get big name guys who looked about as close to the E on the gas meter IN THE FIRST ROUND of the playoffs as Jason Kidd did toward the END of the playoffs.

It just feels like panic splash moves. But it will make them watched and give them the attention and relevancy they're looking for.

But in the end, it's not a young enough team to do anything.

All of them in their primes -- that'd be something. Even Deron is not in his prime anymore. JJ is not either.

Brook is approaching prime. And that's it.

[ctorres]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/2255 ... erent-game

The Nets agreed on Thursday night to acquire Garnett and Pierce along with Jason Terry from the Celtics for Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Reggie Evans and Keith Bogans (a free agent, in a sign-and-trade). On Friday, the deal was revised -- Marshon Brooks, not Evans, will go to Brooklyn. The Nets will send Boston first-round picks in 2014, 2016 and 2018 once the deal is approved, which can't happen until the free-agent moratorium is lifted on July 10, league sources told CBSSports.com.

Another report says Cory Joseph is in the trade too, but then that is it. So not only do the Nets have Jason Terry backing up the 1, 2, and 3 spots, but Reggie Evans is perfect to back up both Garnett and Lopez. The Nets still have Mirza Teletovic, Tornike Shengelia, and Tyshawn Taylor, but they're probably the end of the bench scrubs.

That still leaves the Nets with 5 roster spots. They have the same MMLE the Knicks do and a roster like theirs will attract quality minimum salary players. They have plenty of offense on the team. Now they just need to shore up on defenders and role players which they can land for the minimum.

[J0rdan4life42o]

The Nets will be a very good team going into the season. That's a stacked starting 5. But they lack quality depth behind those great starters, so Pierce and KG are back to being needed to play 30+ minutes a night. The question is, how much will they have left at game 72 of the season? Or game 4 of the 1st round of the playoffs. Like it was mentioned above, Pierce and KG looked gassed in our first round match up. especially Pierce.

Good team on paper, but it could turn out to be a Lakers type disaster if things don't go absolutely right for them, which includes Jason Kidd being a mastermind coach out of the gates.

[K_ick_God]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/22553281/blockbuster-trade-further-proof-nets-and-other-haves-are-playing-a-different-game

The Nets agreed on Thursday night to acquire Garnett and Pierce along with Jason Terry from the Celtics for Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Reggie Evans and Keith Bogans (a free agent, in a sign-and-trade). On Friday, the deal was revised -- Marshon Brooks, not Evans, will go to Brooklyn. The Nets will send Boston first-round picks in 2014, 2016 and 2018 once the deal is approved, which can't happen until the free-agent moratorium is lifted on July 10, league sources told CBSSports.com.

Another report says Cory Joseph is in the trade too, but then that is it. So not only do the Nets have Jason Terry backing up the 1, 2, and 3 spots, but Reggie Evans is perfect to back up both Garnett and Lopez. The Nets still have Mirza Teletovic, Tornike Shengelia, and Tyshawn Taylor, but they're probably the end of the bench scrubs.

That still leaves the Nets with 5 roster spots. They have the same MMLE the Knicks do and a roster like theirs will attract quality minimum salary players. They have plenty of offense on the team. Now they just need to shore up on defenders and role players which they can land for the minimum.

Name one team with 4 out of 5 guys in decline, no matter how good they once were, who won anything?

Even Jordan in decline did nothing to make the Wizards good.

Deron and JJ are not that great. PP and KG couldn't do much more than .500 ball LAST season. If they had JJ and Deron and Brook, they'd have done more. But still not anything great. Rondo is better than Deron right now by quite a bit.

The Nets are "stacked" with players who have all had great seasons in the NBA. But none of those seasons is too recent and it won't be happening again next season or ever. It's not a stacked *roster in 2013-2014* and it's not winning anything much.

Better than the Knicks? Maybe. That's not a big feat really, let's be real.

I'd rather have Rondo than KG and PP ... by a lot. If I were the Nets, I'd rather have Lopez, MarShon and Lillard or Rondo, and most of their picks, than their current roster ... by a lot.

They did manage to dump G-Wallace though. Now that's a feat lol.

Paul Pierce looked awful against the Knicks except for one or two of the games. He was atrocious when it counted. KG looked better but still not close to the KG we knew. It's kind of a joke to clean out your picks for two guys who are HOFers but in the famous "walking retirement" we saw from Kidd in the second half.

[ctorres]

Like I said earlier, there is a major difference between KG and Pierce carrying a team on their back (especially while Rondo was out) and then putting them on the Celtics to where they clearly won't have to. Nets won 49 games last season with Deron, Joe, and Brook as their 3 best players with no real 4th or 5th options. Now you give them Terry, KG, and Pierce who cannot be left open.

Anyways, whatever, I don't feel like arguing today. We'll just wait for next season. If the Nets fail and the Knicks win the championship, then nothing else matters besides that.

[Grinditout]

Pierce and Garnett will be 36 and 37 at the start of next season, and I doubt they'll be able to play no more than 28-30 minutes per game. Combine that with the fact that the Nets have no one on their bench, and I'm not too worried.

[Grinditout]

Terry is garbage now too, and is basically a 6'2 Steve Novak at this point.

[cgmw]

Pierce and Garnett will be 36 and 37 at the start of next season, and I doubt they'll be able to play no more than 28-30 minutes per game. Combine that with the fact that the Nets have no one on their bench, and I'm not too worried.

Not only will Garnett be 38 in 2014, but it will be his 20th season. Unlike KG, Pierce didnt keep his body in top shape. I expect them both to be on an extrmely sharp decline after this season.