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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#421 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:21 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:If you fall out of the top 3, I also like Stanley Johnson along with Justise Winslow. Both these guys can defend and will be double digit scorers unlike Iman Scrubert.


Johnson actually has an all-around game -- Winslow the few times I've seen him has shown very little skill.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#422 » by knickstape21 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:15 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:If you fall out of the top 3, I also like Stanley Johnson along with Justise Winslow. Both these guys can defend and will be double digit scorers unlike Iman Scrubert.


Johnson actually has an all-around game -- Winslow the few times I've seen him has shown very little skill.


????

Winslow is a stud.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#423 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:46 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:If you fall out of the top 3, I also like Stanley Johnson along with Justise Winslow. Both these guys can defend and will be double digit scorers unlike Iman Scrubert.


Johnson actually has an all-around game -- Winslow the few times I've seen him has shown very little skill.


????

Winslow is a stud.


Read/watch draft express scouting video on Winslow -- basically supports what I said.

Weaknesses
Perimeter shooting - very limited range
Creating offense - very limited ability to create 1 vs 1
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#424 » by knickstape21 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:27 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
Johnson actually has an all-around game -- Winslow the few times I've seen him has shown very little skill.


????

Winslow is a stud.


Read/watch draft express scouting video on Winslow -- basically supports what I said.

Weaknesses
Perimeter shooting - very limited range
Creating offense - very limited ability to create 1 vs 1
Upside


Man I dont need to watch a draft express scouting video to form my own judgement of a player. I actually watch the games. Kid is one of the reasons why Duke is such a good team. His energy, athleticism, and talent will not be overlooked and he will make a name for himself as the year goes on I am 100% sure of that.

He's already better than Iman Shumpert.

But if it came down to Winslow and Stanimal Johnson, then idk...that is a difficult decision to make. Johnson is real.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#425 » by knickstape21 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:30 pm

Pretty much, I feel like the Knicks NEED to find a way to get another draft pick. I dont know how they will do it, but we could come away with two talented players if drafted correctly.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#426 » by moocow007 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:43 pm

knickstape21 wrote:Pretty much, I feel like the Knicks NEED to find a way to get another draft pick. I dont know how they will do it, but we could come away with two talented players if drafted correctly.


Trade Hardaway. He's been playing extremely well lately. He can get the Knicks another 1st round pick.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#427 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:46 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
????

Winslow is a stud.


Read/watch draft express scouting video on Winslow -- basically supports what I said.

Weaknesses
Perimeter shooting - very limited range
Creating offense - very limited ability to create 1 vs 1
Upside


Man I dont need to watch a draft express scouting video to form my own judgement of a player. I actually watch the games. Kid is one of the reasons why Duke is such a good team. His energy, athleticism, and talent will not be overlooked and he will make a name for himself as the year goes on I am 100% sure of that.

He's already better than Iman Shumpert.

But if it came down to Winslow and Stanimal Johnson, then idk...that is a difficult decision to make. Johnson is real.


Draft Express has him rated at #5 or #6 so he's obviously a physical specimen and has talent -- my point is -- I don't see any true NBA offensive skills. I will have to take a better look at Winslow.

Shump is a stiff in my opinion -- lets hope both these guys are better than Shump but Shump is a perfect example of what happens when you bring limited offensive game to the pro's -- particularly at the SG position.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#428 » by knickstape21 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:04 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
Read/watch draft express scouting video on Winslow -- basically supports what I said.

Weaknesses
Perimeter shooting - very limited range
Creating offense - very limited ability to create 1 vs 1
Upside


Man I dont need to watch a draft express scouting video to form my own judgement of a player. I actually watch the games. Kid is one of the reasons why Duke is such a good team. His energy, athleticism, and talent will not be overlooked and he will make a name for himself as the year goes on I am 100% sure of that.

He's already better than Iman Shumpert.

But if it came down to Winslow and Stanimal Johnson, then idk...that is a difficult decision to make. Johnson is real.


Draft Express has him rated at #5 or #6 so he's obviously a physical specimen and has talent -- my point is -- I don't see any true NBA offensive skills. I will have to take a better look at Winslow.

Shump is a stiff in my opinion -- lets hope both these guys are better than Shump but Shump is a perfect example of what happens when you bring limited offensive game to the pro's -- particularly at the SG position.


Fair enough. I just love the way Winslow makes an impact on the game even if he only scores 10 points. Stanley Johnson is 6'7 and 240 pounds?!?! That is insane for an 18 year old. Really good prospects in this draft. I wish we could come away with at least 2 of the top 20 players!
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#429 » by siar617 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:57 pm

knickstape21 wrote:Pretty much, I feel like the Knicks NEED to find a way to get another draft pick. I dont know how they will do it, but we could come away with two talented players if drafted correctly.

I've been wondering if we could trade Calderon to OKC for their pick plus filler instead of jackson
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#430 » by Manhattan Project » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:52 pm

It's amazing what having a bad pick does for the fresh college watchers. There is no Beasley/Durant/Melo/Pervis/Tisdale/Webber in this draft. These are kids that were playing high school basketball just months ago, let's give them a chance to get coached a little.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#431 » by knickstape21 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:02 am

Duke on right now on ESPNU... Wish it was possible to grab all 3 of their freshman! Okafor, Jones, and Winslow...... that would be unreal
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#432 » by PMFJB » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:35 am

Manhattan Project wrote:It's amazing what having a bad pick does for the fresh college watchers. There is no Beasley/Durant/Melo/Pervis/Tisdale/Webber in this draft. These are kids that were playing high school basketball just months ago, let's give them a chance to get coached a little.

I hope there is no Beasley in this draft. But you are right these guys are far from a finished product. Still don't want towns though.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#433 » by Manhattan Project » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:48 am

PMFJB wrote:I hope there is no Beasley in this draft. But you are right these guys are far from a finished product. Still don't want towns though.


In terms of freshmen seasons go, his ranks up there as one of the best of all time. He was a beast at Kansas State.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#434 » by DaGawd » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:47 am

Jahlil tonight.... 25 points 20 rebounds 3 blocks lawd jesus yes my body is ready!
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#435 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:11 am

Man Okafor is a beast!!! He's a guaranteed 20 ppg scorer in the NBA. Best hands and post game skills since Duncan. I don't recall Oden or Cousins being this skilled in college.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#436 » by BRIGGS » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:57 am

I cant guess what will happen up top but Id love to grab these two guards using the 2017 number# 1(restricted to 5)


Delon Wright
Jerian Grant

I love both of these guys--these guys would change the complete dynamic of our backcourt for a decade.


This could be a transformational draft
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#437 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:38 am

BRIGGS wrote:I cant guess what will happen up top but Id love to grab these two guards using the 2017 number# 1(restricted to 5)


Delon Wright
Jerian Grant

I love both of these guys--these guys would change the complete dynamic of our backcourt for a decade.


This could be a transformational draft

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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#438 » by frothbrain » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:05 am

friendly reminder that the knicks traded their 2nd round pick to houston.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#439 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:38 am

Okafor was outstanding tonight.. the steal at the top of the key then going coast to coast was very Eddy Curry-like.

Some great spin moves also.
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Re: College Thread AKA Prospect Watch 

Post#440 » by siar617 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:55 am

BeagleBoss wrote:Man Okafor is a beast!!! He's a guaranteed 20 ppg scorer in the NBA. Best hands and post game skills since Duncan. I don't recall Oden or Cousins being this skilled in college.


As far as the rebounds was that lack of rebounding from the other team because he has not been good in that area?

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