Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8

[GONYK]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

Booker doesn't do anything but score though

3.4 apg isn't too shabby for a 2 guard. He can pass a little and he gets to the line at a decent clip which shows he has variety in his offensive repertoire other than just being a shooter. It's a shame PHX got bumped out at 2. I thought Lonzo was a good fit next to Booker because of his size and decision making. They could have traded Bledsoe for some nice assets and jump started their rebuild.

It's not that great either, since his usage % is just slightly lower than Lebron's and he averages as many turnovers as assists.

You're going to get some assists if you are the only one allowed to touch the ball.

[IllmaticHandler]

Booker is a good player...but acting like he does anything but score is crazy.

[IllmaticHandler]

His Defensive rating is disgustomundo. 116....thats basically full blown I dont care level.

[Fat]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

booker is still pretty much a one trick pony. all he does is score

How many times have you watched the suns last season? He scores regardless it's his biggest strength. He"s improved areas in his game nobody expected matter fact he was on the short list of most improved player

13 / 2.5 rpg / 2.6 apg

To now

22 / 3.2 rpg / 3.4 apg

Minus the shooting it's not a huge leap but definitely in the right direction

[GONYK]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

booker is still pretty much a one trick pony. all he does is score

How many times have you watched the suns last season? He scores regardless it's his biggest strength. He"s improved areas in his game nobody expected matter fact he was on the short list of most improved player

13 / 2.5 rpg / 2.6 apg

To now

22 / 3.2 rpg / 3.4 apg

Minus the shooting it's not a huge leap but definitely in the right direction

Devin Booker plays 35 MPG

Tim Hardaway Jr in 27 MPG averages 2.8 RPG/2.3 APG with way less usage

Are we going to start pretending that Timmy is a well rounded player all of a sudden?

[Fat]

Booker doesn't do anything but score though

3.4 apg isn't too shabby for a 2 guard. He can pass a little and he gets to the line at a decent clip which shows he has variety in his offensive repertoire other than just being a shooter. It's a shame PHX got bumped out at 2. I thought Lonzo was a good fit next to Booker because of his size and decision making. They could have traded Bledsoe for some nice assets and jump started their rebuild.

It's not that great either, since his usage % is just slightly lower than Lebron's and he averages as many turnovers as assists.

You're going to get some assists if you are the only one allowed to touch the ball.

He"s 20 getting his feet wet in the NBA what do you expect his numbers to look like 20/6/7? He's a baby just like kp is a baby. The fact of the matter is he"s continuing to improve

[blueNorange]

booker had a higher usage this year and a lower ts%

if he's forever going to be a .530 ts% player then he'll be bouncing around the league once the suns realizes he's not improving.

[blueNorange]

3.4 apg isn't too shabby for a 2 guard. He can pass a little and he gets to the line at a decent clip which shows he has variety in his offensive repertoire other than just being a shooter. It's a shame PHX got bumped out at 2. I thought Lonzo was a good fit next to Booker because of his size and decision making. They could have traded Bledsoe for some nice assets and jump started their rebuild.

It's not that great either, since his usage % is just slightly lower than Lebron's and he averages as many turnovers as assists.

You're going to get some assists if you are the only one allowed to touch the ball.

He"s 20 getting his feet wet in the NBA what do you expect his numbers to look like 20/6/7? He's a baby just like kp is a baby. The fact of the matter is he"s continuing to improve

he had a .535 ts% last year and a .531 ts% this year

.530 isn't a good number of efficiency. generally you'd want it to be .550 or above.

[KnicksGadfly]

Interesting article on Tatum.
http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/5/24/15657436/future-sixers-jayson-tatum-deserves-consideration-at-3

Might need to re-consider my opinion about this kid, even though we'll never get to draft him.

[Fat]

booker is still pretty much a one trick pony. all he does is score

How many times have you watched the suns last season? He scores regardless it's his biggest strength. He"s improved areas in his game nobody expected matter fact he was on the short list of most improved player

13 / 2.5 rpg / 2.6 apg

To now

22 / 3.2 rpg / 3.4 apg

Minus the shooting it's not a huge leap but definitely in the right direction

Devin Booker plays 35 MPG

Tim Hardaway Jr in 27 MPG averages 2.8 RPG/2.3 APG with way less usage

Are we going to start pretending that Timmy is a well rounded player all of a sudden?

Timmy has been in the league how long now? He is who he"s shown no real improvement

If that's how u look at it. Booker is a knick would you trade him for hardaway right now?

[3toheadmelo]

bno coming in with the TS% again

[GONYK]

3.4 apg isn't too shabby for a 2 guard. He can pass a little and he gets to the line at a decent clip which shows he has variety in his offensive repertoire other than just being a shooter. It's a shame PHX got bumped out at 2. I thought Lonzo was a good fit next to Booker because of his size and decision making. They could have traded Bledsoe for some nice assets and jump started their rebuild.

It's not that great either, since his usage % is just slightly lower than Lebron's and he averages as many turnovers as assists.

You're going to get some assists if you are the only one allowed to touch the ball.

He"s 20 getting his feet wet in the NBA what do you expect his numbers to look like 20/6/7? He's a baby just like kp is a baby. The fact of the matter is he"s continuing to improve

Not really. His usage is just going up and he's playing more minutes. There is no real evidence that he's improving as a playmaker for others, a rebounder, or a defender. Those parts of his game are still pretty non-existent.

[IllmaticHandler]

booker had a higher usage this year and a lower ts%

if he's forever going to be a .530 ts% player then he'll be bouncing around the league once the suns realizes he's not improving.

His defense became worse with a higher usage as well.

[GONYK]

How many times have you watched the suns last season? He scores regardless it's his biggest strength. He"s improved areas in his game nobody expected matter fact he was on the short list of most improved player

13 / 2.5 rpg / 2.6 apg

To now

22 / 3.2 rpg / 3.4 apg

Minus the shooting it's not a huge leap but definitely in the right direction

Devin Booker plays 35 MPG

Tim Hardaway Jr in 27 MPG averages 2.8 RPG/2.3 APG with way less usage

Are we going to start pretending that Timmy is a well rounded player all of a sudden?

Timmy has been in the league how on now? He is who he"s shown no real improvement

If that's how u look at it. Booker is a knick would you trade him for hardaway right now?

You're missing the point.

Booker is a one trick pony just like Timmy.

Booker is just way better at this trick.

[TankCommander17]

We need 3 and D guys more than anything. Having said that at 8 there is none of that. Hope Monk falls or DSJ falls. They have the biggest upside at 8.

Frank is a defensive specialist and not much else. The guy can't break down anyone with that crap dribble. And his shot is just ok.

Picking him is hoping he becomes the thug in houston they have at pg. At 8 that is pretty crappy value. But a solid player nonetheless.

[blueNorange]

just went down a rabbit hole to prove a point and found out this interesting bit of news of michael sweetney, apparently he tried committing suicide his rookie year.

“I remember the night,” Sweetney told HoopsHype. “We were in Cleveland one night and I just took a bunch of pain pills, hoping it would take me out. But I woke up the next morning thinking, ‘Well, it didn’t work.’ That’s how bad it was.
“I didn’t like basketball and I just didn’t like life at the time. I went from being a star at Georgetown and having my father at every game, to losing him and not even playing in the NBA. I knew I wasn’t going to be given a chance as a rookie because my coach told me, ‘Hey, I’m not going to play you.’ I had a lot of things going on that were rough for me to handle.”

[Fat]

Devin Booker plays 35 MPG

Tim Hardaway Jr in 27 MPG averages 2.8 RPG/2.3 APG with way less usage

Are we going to start pretending that Timmy is a well rounded player all of a sudden?

Timmy has been in the league how on now? He is who he"s shown no real improvement

If that's how u look at it. Booker is a knick would you trade him for hardaway right now?

You're missing the point.

Booker is a one trick pony just like Timmy.

Booker is just way better at this trick.

booker simlpy has more potential and higher ceiling

[King of Canada]

just went down a rabbit hole to prove a point and found out this interesting bit of news of michael sweetney, apparently he tried committing suicide his rookie year.

“I remember the night,” Sweetney told HoopsHype. “We were in Cleveland one night and I just took a bunch of pain pills, hoping it would take me out. But I woke up the next morning thinking, ‘Well, it didn’t work.’ That’s how bad it was.
“I didn’t like basketball and I just didn’t like life at the time. I went from being a star at Georgetown and having my father at every game, to losing him and not even playing in the NBA. I knew I wasn’t going to be given a chance as a rookie because my coach told me, ‘Hey, I’m not going to play you.’ I had a lot of things going on that were rough for me to handle.”

I saw that too. Awful and sad, but I'm not surprised at all. Any of these guys that struggle to get it together physically or even motivation wise are probably battling depression.

[2010]

FrankfROOTER

I go back and forth on the nick. At the end of the day, the versatility of the diss is decent but you have to think about it too much and by that point it's hard to get worked up about. Three out of five stars

Worked perfectly! Patronizing wordplay that doesn't offend to the point of butthurtedness.

[blueNorange]

just went down a rabbit hole to prove a point and found out this interesting bit of news of michael sweetney, apparently he tried committing suicide his rookie year.

“I remember the night,” Sweetney told HoopsHype. “We were in Cleveland one night and I just took a bunch of pain pills, hoping it would take me out. But I woke up the next morning thinking, ‘Well, it didn’t work.’ That’s how bad it was.
“I didn’t like basketball and I just didn’t like life at the time. I went from being a star at Georgetown and having my father at every game, to losing him and not even playing in the NBA. I knew I wasn’t going to be given a chance as a rookie because my coach told me, ‘Hey, I’m not going to play you.’ I had a lot of things going on that were rough for me to handle.”

I saw that too. Awful and sad, but I'm not surprised at all. Any of these guys that struggle to get it together physically or even motivation wise are probably battling depression.

i wonder how many on the knicks staff/roster knew about this, but because twitter wasn't around then they were able to hide it and tell the media something else.