Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides
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I like some of the moves the Grizzlies are making. They have a pretty interesting young core with guys like JJJ, Ja, Brandon Clarke, Josh Jackson, De'Anthony Melton, etc
Also thankful they allowed RJ to fall to us
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After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
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Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
I like it man. And if Knox earns that spot over Bullock, I’ll be very pleased.
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Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
Definitely agree with everything! Knox is going to be a lot better. Sidenote.... Trier's going to push to be that 6th man. Instant scoring and another who's now more seasoned
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We getting Oladipo folks...
Oladipo / Payton /Frank
Barrett / Trier / Frank
Knox / Bullock / Frank
Randle / Portis
Robinson / Taj
Oladipo / Payton /Frank
Barrett / Trier / Frank
Knox / Bullock / Frank
Randle / Portis
Robinson / Taj
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Besart19 wrote:We getting Oladipo folks...
Oladipo / Payton /Frank
Barrett / Trier / Frank
Knox / Bullock / Frank
Randle / Portis
Robinson / Taj
Holy shat, we got Oladipo in exchange for DSJ and Ellington?
Perry for Exec of the Year!
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knicksh20b wrote:Besart19 wrote:We getting Oladipo folks...
Oladipo / Payton /Frank
Barrett / Trier / Frank
Knox / Bullock / Frank
Randle / Portis
Robinson / Taj
Holy shat, we got Oladipo in exchange for DSJ and Ellington?
Perry for Exec of the Year!
Two lottery picks for an expiry who wont commit
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Juco24 wrote:Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
Definitely agree with everything! Knox is going to be a lot better. Sidenote.... Trier's going to push to be that 6th man. Instant scoring and another who's now more seasoned
Yeah, I’d flip Trier with Frank on the list with potential to flip Trier to 6th man whether that’s DSJr there or EP.
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Memphis getting a draft pick for taking Iguodala, and now they going to trade him for more draft picks. What an incredible use of cap space.
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Kawhi is a strange man...so who even knows... but my issue with the meeting situation, if he signs a 2 year deal in Toronto and is a FA again in 2021, we are primed to have 2 spots available again.... Greek Freak and Kawhi would make a great tag team - just sayin
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Sark wrote:Memphis getting a draft pick for taking Iguodala, and now they going to trade him for more draft picks. What an incredible use of cap space.
Probably only time we’ve agreed about free agency...
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J9Starks3 wrote:Kawhi is a strange man...so who even knows... but my issue with the meeting situation, if he signs a 2 year deal in Toronto and is a FA again in 2021, we are primed to have 2 spots available again.... Greek Freak and Kawhi would make a great tag team - just sayin
I'm willing to bet the Kawhi meeting probably involved prior convos about KD, and both sides were cool with canceling the meeting. As long as it was a positive interaction it shouldn't hurt us moving forward, where going through with it and pitching just a young team with flexibility may have killed any future meeting.
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Sark wrote:Memphis getting a draft pick for taking Iguodala, and now they going to trade him for more draft picks. What an incredible use of cap space.
I was expecting Scott Perry to use this strategy once we struck out with the big fish. Must admit that I am disappointed that he did not.
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Sark wrote:Memphis getting a draft pick for taking Iguodala, and now they going to trade him for more draft picks. What an incredible use of cap space.
Smart rebuilds always do stuff like this
We’ve seen 3 teams from our own division do the asset for salary dump route and we’ve seen those 3 teams enter the upper tier of NBA teams.
All since the last time we made the playoffs.
Meanwhile in Knicksland....
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Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
Agree with the rotation.... but this is where I think PerryMills mess up... the Ellington signing makes no sense... if you are keeping Frank, Dotson and Trier.... too many guards. Cool we signed four good quality bigs... but what if one gets hurt? This is where I think we should have brought back Kornet/Vonleh atleast Kornet... also this is where my JJ Redick case comes in... who only sign for $13 million for 2 years.... at 18.5 ppg shoots lights out is a way better player than both Bullock and Ellington. Currently it looks like our last spot is going to a big.
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dakomish23 wrote:Sark wrote:Memphis getting a draft pick for taking Iguodala, and now they going to trade him for more draft picks. What an incredible use of cap space.
Smart rebuilds always do stuff like this
We’ve seen 3 teams from our own division do the asset for salary dump route and we’ve seen those 3 teams enter the upper tier of NBA teams.
All since the last time we made the playoffs.
Meanwhile in Knicksland....
Lets have some patience. The knicks traded KP for Assets, and these deals (Which all have team options) are for high level roleplayers that teams will want come playoff time. We could still trade for either picks or maybe young players.
The point that a lot of people are missing is the knicks had a list of plans depending how Durant chose. Once he went to another team, option 2 was to move quickly to get certain guys on short deals which is what the knicks did.
Now imagine if we were waiting for Kawhi or for a team to drop a player like Iggy or Whiteside and afterwards all that was left LT tier players and doing deals with teams that have historically gone out there way to short change the knicks?
This year I think the Knicks want to be like the Kings where yeah they aren't playoff bound, but there are signs of growth and teams have come to play when they face them.
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YungKnicks wrote:Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.
PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson
6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington
Inactive: Iggy and TBD
Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.
DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.
What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.
Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.
Agree with the rotation.... but this is where I think PerryMills mess up... the Ellington signing makes no sense... if you are keeping Frank, Dotson and Trier.... too many guards. Cool we signed four good quality bigs... but what if one gets hurt? This is where I think we should have brought back Kornet/Vonleh atleast Kornet... also this is where my JJ Redick case comes in... who only sign for $13 million for 2 years.... at 18.5 ppg shoots lights out is a way better player than both Bullock and Ellington. Currently it looks like our last spot is going to a big.
Maybe they don't plan on playing one of frank dotson or trier very much. I do agree we should sign another big though. Funny how we were being criticized with the "3 power fowards" meme when we literally only had one big man on the entire roster, we still could use another backup C
















