Is RJ Barrett a beast?

[RHODEY]

RJ can make it through this...Dammit Burks come back now!

[Clyde_Style]

Did any of you guys follow Brandon Ingram? He was absolutely terrible his first two years. Shut down medically his third. Won MIP in his fourth and is damn near a superstar in his fifth.

He came in too skinny, no handle, no shot, not really athletic either.

It took Patrick Ewing 5 years to develop. Not everybody is Jordan, Lebron, AI or so. There are stars who are built. And 3rd pick doesn't mean superstar.

You can be a solid performer.

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Patrick Ewing took five years?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

[FreeSpiritNY]

RJ will continue to be a bust if he continues to not work on his shot. There is practicing and then there is working on something to fix it. Rj seems like the only thing he worked on was free throw shooting. Him and payton have to be the worst shooters in the NBA

[prophet_of_rage]

Did any of you guys follow Brandon Ingram? He was absolutely terrible his first two years. Shut down medically his third. Won MIP in his fourth and is damn near a superstar in his fifth.

He came in too skinny, no handle, no shot, not really athletic either.

It took Patrick Ewing 5 years to develop. Not everybody is Jordan, Lebron, AI or so. There are stars who are built. And 3rd pick doesn't mean superstar.

You can be a solid performer.

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Patrick Ewing took five years?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Patrick took 5 years to become the best big in the East and create his best season. Yes. He wasn't Ewing straight out the box.

He wasn't RJ either but he didn't peak until 5 years.

RJ isn't going to be peak in year 2.

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[Clyde_Style]

Did any of you guys follow Brandon Ingram? He was absolutely terrible his first two years. Shut down medically his third. Won MIP in his fourth and is damn near a superstar in his fifth.

He came in too skinny, no handle, no shot, not really athletic either.

It took Patrick Ewing 5 years to develop. Not everybody is Jordan, Lebron, AI or so. There are stars who are built. And 3rd pick doesn't mean superstar.

You can be a solid performer.

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Patrick Ewing took five years?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Patrick took 5 years to become the best big in the East and create his best season. Yes. He wasn't Ewing straight out the box.

He wasn't RJ either but he didn't peak until 5 years.

RJ isn't going to be peak in year 2.

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Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

[prophet_of_rage]

Patrick Ewing took five years?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Patrick took 5 years to become the best big in the East and create his best season. Yes. He wasn't Ewing straight out the box.

He wasn't RJ either but he didn't peak until 5 years.

RJ isn't going to be peak in year 2.

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Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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[DaGawd]

Patrick took 5 years to become the best big in the East and create his best season. Yes. He wasn't Ewing straight out the box.

He wasn't RJ either but he didn't peak until 5 years.

RJ isn't going to be peak in year 2.

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Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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Players don’t all develop.. that’s fairy tale. Many players peak their rookie years then go backwards.. progression is not linear

[Clyde_Style]

Patrick took 5 years to become the best big in the East and create his best season. Yes. He wasn't Ewing straight out the box.

He wasn't RJ either but he didn't peak until 5 years.

RJ isn't going to be peak in year 2.

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Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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You construct your premise however you want. Just saying I see no corollorary there and thus it does nothing to enhance your point. You might as well throw a dart at a list of hundreds of players who improved in their first five years, because Patrick was a badass right away and RJ was and is not. Ingram was a better choice for illustration purposes

[prophet_of_rage]

Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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Players don’t all develop.. that’s fairy tale. Many players peak their rookie years then go backwards.. progression is not linear

Development is not linear. But clearly RJ has not peaked in his rookie year. You can't write him off just yet. All you can say is he not currently a good NBA player. But year 2 you can't call him a bust.

He was never considered in the Lebron, Jordan, Iverson Shaq category.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Dafuq?

Patrick was a 20 PPG player out of the gate. With actual efficiency. And a top rebounder and blocker in his rookie season too.

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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You construct your premise however you want. Just saying I see no corollorary there and thus it does nothing to enhance your point. You might as well throw a dart at a list of hundreds of players who improved in their first five years, because Patrick was a badass right away and RJ was and is not. Ingram was a better choice for illustration purposes

I used Ingram as the direct example and Patrick as an example that even superstars became dominant over time.

You guys want numbers. I mean isn't he 17 and 6? That's better thsn Sprewell's career numbers. He hasn't put his game together yet.

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[Clyde_Style]

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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Players don’t all develop.. that’s fairy tale. Many players peak their rookie years then go backwards.. progression is not linear

Development is not linear. But clearly RJ has not peaked in his rookie year. You can't write him off just yet. All you can say is he not currently a good NBA player. But year 2 you can't call him a bust.

He was never considered in the Lebron, Jordan, Iverson Shaq category.

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whatever man, it was a bad example

[god shammgod]

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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You construct your premise however you want. Just saying I see no corollorary there and thus it does nothing to enhance your point. You might as well throw a dart at a list of hundreds of players who improved in their first five years, because Patrick was a badass right away and RJ was and is not. Ingram was a better choice for illustration purposes

I used Ingram as the direct example and Patrick as an example that even superstars became dominant over time.

You guys want numbers. I mean isn't he 17 and 6? That's better thsn Sprewell's career numbers. He hasn't put his game together yet.

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those are raw numbers. a lot of players could do that with the number of shots/minutes he gets. most would do better. he's not helping the team, he's actively hurting it.

[Chanel Bomber]

RJ will continue to be a bust if he continues to not work on his shot. There is practicing and then there is working on something to fix it. Rj seems like the only thing he worked on was free throw shooting. Him and payton have to be the worst shooters in the NBA

RJ worked on his shot. Perhaps that explains the struggles actually.

Getting used to a new form that might bring greater rewards in the long-run. Not presenting this as a fact, but as a hypothetical best-case scenario.

But by all accounts RJ did work on his jumpshot.

[Juco24]

I keep telling you guys... go to Indiana, take the rims (possibly the backboard too) and install it before every game! There!!! PROBLEM SOLVED

[prophet_of_rage]

You construct your premise however you want. Just saying I see no corollorary there and thus it does nothing to enhance your point. You might as well throw a dart at a list of hundreds of players who improved in their first five years, because Patrick was a badass right away and RJ was and is not. Ingram was a better choice for illustration purposes

I used Ingram as the direct example and Patrick as an example that even superstars became dominant over time.

You guys want numbers. I mean isn't he 17 and 6? That's better thsn Sprewell's career numbers. He hasn't put his game together yet.

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those are raw numbers. a lot of players could do that with the number of shots/minutes he gets. most would do better. he's not helping the team, he's actively hurting it.

Ingram did the same thing. The raw numbers are there. And now he has to figure out how to increase his efficiency.

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[NYKnickerbocker]

RJ will continue to be a bust if he continues to not work on his shot. There is practicing and then there is working on something to fix it. Rj seems like the only thing he worked on was free throw shooting. Him and payton have to be the worst shooters in the NBA

RJ worked on his shot. Perhaps that explains the struggles actually.

Getting used to a new form that might bring greater rewards in the long-run. Not presenting this as a fact, but as a hypothetical best-case scenario.

But by all accounts RJ did work on his jumpshot.

that’s what I’m assuming. He’s committed to this form which is good, you don’t want guys constantly changing it up just cause your in a rough stretch. End up like MKG. He’s shown he can have moments when it’s working. Just keep shooting the open shots when he gets them. The form looks good, nothing like a DSJ or Muiday where your like ughhhh. Just gotta knock them down

[god shammgod]

I used Ingram as the direct example and Patrick as an example that even superstars became dominant over time.

You guys want numbers. I mean isn't he 17 and 6? That's better thsn Sprewell's career numbers. He hasn't put his game together yet.

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those are raw numbers. a lot of players could do that with the number of shots/minutes he gets. most would do better. he's not helping the team, he's actively hurting it.

Ingram did the same thing. The raw numbers are there. And now he has to figure out how to increase his efficiency.

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ingram shot 47 percent from the field and 39 from 3 in year 2. it's not the same thing.

[DaGawd]

You're locked into numbers. Did Ewing get better from his rookie season? Did he become even better? Was his 89-90 season not a fantastic improvement over the first four?

Players develop, no matter what their level. Even superstars.

Stop looking for immediate results out of young players with little experience.



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Players don’t all develop.. that’s fairy tale. Many players peak their rookie years then go backwards.. progression is not linear

Development is not linear. But clearly RJ has not peaked in his rookie year. You can't write him off just yet. All you can say is he not currently a good NBA player. But year 2 you can't call him a bust.

He was never considered in the Lebron, Jordan, Iverson Shaq category.

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You’re right.. This Nig peaked in high school lol smh

[1999]

RJ may never be a star... That’s ok. Knicks gotta get out of this cycle of trading pick after pick with no development and expecting results. The front office has to also pick a direction and stick with it. Have some stability for once with a coaching staff, then we can more accurately assess our picks.


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[thebuzzardman]

Did any of you guys follow Brandon Ingram? He was absolutely terrible his first two years. Shut down medically his third. Won MIP in his fourth and is damn near a superstar in his fifth.

He came in too skinny, no handle, no shot, not really athletic either.

It took Patrick Ewing 5 years to develop. Not everybody is Jordan, Lebron, AI or so. There are stars who are built. And 3rd pick doesn't mean superstar.

You can be a solid performer.

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Patrick Ewing took five years?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

5 years to get to his peak, yes. I recall him adding new stuff every off season.
The difference is, Ewing was good from the jump, while RJ sucks.
Other than that, excellent comp.