2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3

[robillionaire]

Glad to see we got some good luck this time for a change. I’m not particularly enamored with anyone in our range but I’m sure a steal will be out there and gonna let the scouts do their jobs

[thebuzzardman]

Glad to see we got some good luck this time for a change. I’m not particularly enamored with anyone in our range but I’m sure a steal will be out there and gonna let the scouts do their jobs

At least it's 3 chances to get lucky. Or maybe two, if they package two picks to move up.

I doubt this scenario happens, but Knicks do have some ammo to move up, in that they have 3 picks plus that extra Mav's pick in 2 years. I doubt that it would really entice anyone in the top 5, but who knows.

OKC might be an interesting trade partner, not in moving their top pick, but that they have so many picks coming due, Knicks might want to rearrange when some of their picks fall and there might be fit there.

[louisorr]

Glad to see we got some good luck this time for a change. I’m not particularly enamored with anyone in our range but I’m sure a steal will be out there and gonna let the scouts do their jobs

At least it's 3 chances to get lucky. Or maybe two, if they package two picks to move up.

I doubt this scenario happens, but Knicks do have some ammo to move up, in that they have 3 picks plus that extra Mav's pick in 2 years. I doubt that it would really entice anyone in the top 5, but who knows.

OKC might be an interesting trade partner, not in moving their top pick, but that they have so many picks coming due, Knicks might want to rearrange when some of their picks fall and there might be fit there.

I'm hoping they take a bigger swing this draft. They probably can't get to Jalen Green territory, but maybe a Moses Moody.. if not a home run swing at least go for the triple. I think they can make a move like that with 19 and 21.

[TheGreenArrow]

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I’m okay with cooper!!!!!

[cgf]

Let's not use one of our picks on a 6' guard who can't shoot...

[Fat]

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I’m okay with cooper!!!!!

I don’t hate it I don’t love it. I can see how he can help playmaking wise. he’s probably the most talented point guard in the draft after Suggs and Cade and his free throw percentage is a good indication for his shooting (81 percent)

His size definitely is bothering though , that’s probably my biggest grudge it’s not even the shooting part.

[damedash09]

Duarte makes a ton of sense, but his age though

He reminds me of bogi on the hawks

[Fat]

While we on cooper

Watch on YouTube

[3toheadmelo]

I’d pass on cooper every time

[robillionaire]

I’d pass on cooper every time

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

[thebuzzardman]

Pick #19

2020 Saddiq Bey, Villanova - Detroit Pistons
2019 Luka Samanic, KK Olimpija (Slovenia) – San Antonio Spurs
2018 Kevin Huerter, University of Maryland – Atlanta Hawks
2017 John Collins, Wake Forest – Atlanta Hawks
2016 Malik Beasley, Florida State – Denver Nuggets
2015 Jerian Grant, Notre Dame – Washington Wizards
2014 Gary Harris, Michigan St – Denver Nuggets
2013 Sergey Karasey, Russia – Cleveland Cavaliers
2012 Andrew Nicholson, St. Bonaventure – Orlando Magic
2011 Tobias Harris, Tennessee – Charlotte Bobcats
2010 Avery Bradley, Texas – Boston Celtics
2009 Jeff Teague, Wake Forest – Atlanta Hawks
2008 J.J. Hickson, NC State – Cleveland Cavaliers
2007 Javaris Crittenton, Georgia Tech – L.A. Lakers
2006 Quincy Douby, Rutgers – Sacramento Kings
2005 Hakim Warrick, Syracuse – Memphis Grizzlies
2004 Dorell Wright, South Kent Prep H.S. (CT) – Miami HEAT
2003 Aleksandar Pavlovic, Serbia & Montenegro – Utah Jazz
2002 Ryan Humphrey, Notre Dame – Utah Jazz
2001 Zach Randolph, Michigan State – Portland Trail Blazers
2000 Jamaal Magloire, Kentucky – Charlotte Hornets

Pick #21

2020 Tyrese Maxey, Kentucky - Philadelphia 76ers
2019 Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga – Oklahoma City Thunder
2018 Grayson Allen, Duke – Utah Jazz
2017 Terrance Ferguson, Australia – Oklahoma City Thunder
2016 DeAndre’ Bembry, St. Joseph’s – Atlanta Hawks
2015 Justin Anderson, Virginia – Dallas Mavericks
2014 Mitch McGary, Michigan – Oklahoma City Thunder
2013 Gorgui Dieng, Louisville – Utah Jazz
2012 Jared Sullinger, Ohio State – Boston Celtics
2011 Nolan Smith, Duke University – Portland Trail Blazers
2010 Craig Brackins, Iowa State University – Oklahoma City Thunder
2009 Darren Collison, University of California, Los Angeles – New Orleans Hornets
2008 Ryan Anderson, Cal – New Jersey Nets
2007 Daequan Cook, Ohio State – Miami HEAT
2006 Rajon Rondo, Kentucky – Phoenix Suns
2005 Nate Robinson, Washington – Phoenix Suns
2004 Pavel Podkolzin, Varese (Italy) – Utah Jazz
2003 Boris Diaw, France – Atlanta Hawks
2002 Qyntel Woods, Northeast Mississippi CC – Portland Trail Blazers
2001 Joseph Forte, North Carolina – Boston Celtics
2000 Morris Peterson, Michigan State – Toronto Raptors

hit or miss clearly, but some decent players taken in recent years at 19

#19 pick basically on a 13 year run after JJ Hickson onward; couple of misses - actually, maybe only one in Sergey Karasey,Andrew Nicholson; a little early to know on Luka Samanic

[cgf]

Read on Twitter

I’m okay with cooper!!!!!

I don’t hate it I don’t love it. I can see how he can help playmaking wise. he’s probably the most talented point guard in the draft after Suggs and Cade and his free throw percentage is a good indication for his shooting (81 percent)

His size definitely is bothering though , that’s probably my biggest grudge it’s not even the shooting part.

His FT rate would make me more optimistic if I was confident that he'd be able to get his shot off when defended, but with the way he shoots, I could swat his shot...and I'm just 6' with an average wingspan...nevermind NBA defenders. And if he can't shoot off the dribble at his size, it's going to be a lot harder for him to draw attention & open things up for his high-level passing.

[cgf]

I’d pass on cooper every time

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

He's crafty & has some serious playmaking chops...but yeah, unless he can become an elite off the bounce shooter, I don't see him getting to utilize his playmaking at the NBA level.

[Nazrmohamed]

Duarte makes a ton of sense, but his age though

He reminds me of bogi on the hawks

It's definitely a drawback in terms of his future potential but potential is sometimes overrated. If the guy can play now and you think he's got NBA skills today just go with that and enjoy it. I think Duarte can spell Bullock almost right away. I do think there is some potential as far as putting on alittle but of weight but I think hes a rotation player sooner than later.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Dont over think it folks...Josh Giddy all the way...this draft's Haliburton.

If he's there he's a good pick. I think we'd have to move up for him (or Bouknight), which I'd be ok with.

Any fans of Sengun? He looks talented, though maybe another Goga...

I'm a big fan of Sengun. Adding him and bouknight or Tre Mann would be my dream draft. The turkish league he plays in is no joke either and I wouldn't be shocked if he's the MVP at 18. He doesn't have a jump shot just yet but he shoots 80% at the free throw line, so I expect it to be coming soon with some work. I definitely think he could be a nurkic or valanciunas type of player. We just saw last night how having Taj being a threat to score changed things up for us offensively and this kid would be able to give us more offense than what Taj can do.

[BugginOut]

I’d pass on cooper every time

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

People are betting on his shot. There are very few 80% FT shooters that don’t become at least average from 3. The only players that come to mind that can’t shoot the 3 but are good FT shooters are Jimmy Butler and Demar DeRozan

If Cooper’s shot comes around he can be an ELITE playmaker

[cgf]

I’d pass on cooper every time

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

People are betting on his shot. There are very few 80% FT shooters that don’t become at least average from 3. The only players that come to mind that can’t shoot the 3 but are good FT shooters are Jimmy Butler and Demar DeRozan

If Cooper’s shot comes around he can be an ELITE playmaker

Problem is that his shot doesn't just need to "come around" it needs to become elite, like 95th percentile or better, elite for him to ever have the gravity to create the openings for his playmaking. And having a low & slow shot, when you're already tiny, makes me very dubious of taking that bet.

I'm much higher on Butler or Mann, for us.

[Fat]

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

People are betting on his shot. There are very few 80% FT shooters that don’t become at least average from 3. The only players that come to mind that can’t shoot the 3 but are good FT shooters are Jimmy Butler and Demar DeRozan

If Cooper’s shot comes around he can be an ELITE playmaker

Problem is that his shot doesn't just need to "come around" it needs to become elite, like 95th percentile or better, elite for him to ever have the gravity to create the openings for his playmaking. And having a low & slow shot, when you're already tiny, makes me very dubious of taking that bet.

I'm much higher on Butler or Mann, for us.

Mann is ideally who id I want if he’s on board. I like the dosunmu and butlers to but I’d aim for the higher upside in tre mann if I had to choose between any of them.

[cgf]

People are betting on his shot. There are very few 80% FT shooters that don’t become at least average from 3. The only players that come to mind that can’t shoot the 3 but are good FT shooters are Jimmy Butler and Demar DeRozan

If Cooper’s shot comes around he can be an ELITE playmaker

Problem is that his shot doesn't just need to "come around" it needs to become elite, like 95th percentile or better, elite for him to ever have the gravity to create the openings for his playmaking. And having a low & slow shot, when you're already tiny, makes me very dubious of taking that bet.

I'm much higher on Butler or Mann, for us.

Mann is ideally who id I want if he’s on board. I like the dosunmu and butlers to but I’d aim for the higher upside in tre mann if I had to choose between any of them.

I get that, but I really like Butler a lot. He's like a more-polished-as-a-PG version of Quickley, and I would love to have two of those...

[Fat]

I’d pass on cooper every time

He is an undersized 6’1 pg who shot 22% from 3. What am I missing here bros

People are betting on his shot. There are very few 80% FT shooters that don’t become at least average from 3. The only players that come to mind that can’t shoot the 3 but are good FT shooters are Jimmy Butler and Demar DeRozan

If Cooper’s shot comes around he can be an ELITE playmaker

Peep around the 20:55 mark in the video. He seems beyond confident in the work he’s put in on his jumper since college which is a positive sign