Knicks - Hawks PG: This is what effort looks like

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Its this years. But last year Randle was 'touching the ball' to much and still 'inefficient' and all that stuff you have figured out. But fine divert away.

We're 11-9. What's our record end up this season, if we can get rid of the guy who you say is making us worse on both sides of the ball?

So it's not last year? I gave you numbers from this year, do you have anything to say about those? The less Randle has the ball this year has worked out for us, when he's been on the court this year we have been an inefficient offensive team that barely plays defense. Do you have anything to refute the numbers from this year?

You don't win basketball games or championships by individual ratings. Clearly there is minimal context applied.

You think Randle makes us a worse team. Translate whatever rating/count you want that into the most simple (and important stat) - wins.

Without Randle holding us back, how many more wins do we get in comparison to a team with Juilius. This year. It really is a simple question.

We're not winning a championship with Randle, and you do win basketball games by going after highly efficient players. Your argument is basically throw out all the stats because you don't like them, instead lets go with a question that can't be answered.

[nykfan42]

I hate Trae Young.

[Clyde_Style]

GreenArrow accuses the other side of exactly what he's doing more than a Republican political operative.

If he met an exclamation point at a party he'd give it a hand job

[El Poochio]

GreenArrow vs buzzard is ON

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[thebuzzardman]

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[thebuzzardman]

This buzzardman Greenarrow fighting is bad when we should just be teaming up and bothering Shamm.

[HarthorneWingo]

This was a good win , but as a .500 ish team , you will get good wins bad loses.

This was a good watch , knicks had lead through most of the game .

The team looking better lately with thibs low key being benefited from starting lineup tinkering .

Mitch in concussion protocol , kemba gifting him a day off on a back 2 back . This is the issue basically -the starting lineup and right now we getting relief from that dubious lineup we are apparently stuck with .

Ok so maybe I gotta eat sh It because the Knicks won with an adjustment that wasn’t Mitch . My rebuttal is that it’s 1 game.

And I don’t care about being right , I’d this team just adjust and be good . Be watchable but I’ll be 100 that is too much to ask . If you want your team to win you watch and root regardless of what ever dumb stupid stuff the coach decides to do .

There’s a fine line . If the Knicks started winning by going on all 4’s and barking like dog , would you like that ? Watch that ?No not really but a lot of coaches and strategies are bastardizing the game .

I think Thibs is beginning to move in the direction that we want him to go. So long as we’re playing our best ball with our best players the last third of the season.

[dakomish23]

Knicks 4-1 in the last 3 years with Mitch

You easily saw his impact tonight. No lobs or easy layups beside a few late after he got hurt.

One of the best in the league.

[KnixtapeH20]

Knicks 4-1 in the last 3 years with Mitch

You easily saw his impact tonight. No lobs or easy layups beside a few late after he got hurt.

One of the best in the league.

Shut capella down and completely dominated Ayton

And he's still not 100%

[3toheadmelo]

The average RJ realist:

Here is a chart showing mathematical evidence that RJ is bad.

The typical RJ defender:

Facts

[3toheadmelo]

You easily saw his impact tonight. No lobs or easy layups beside a few late after he got hurt.

One of the best in the league.

Shut capella down and completely dominated Ayton

And he's still not 100%

He never dominated Ayton not a day in his life

[robillionaire]

One of the best in the league.

Shut capella down and completely dominated Ayton

And he's still not 100%

He never dominated Ayton not a day in his life

Capella had 16 pts and 21 rebs and was a +7, much much better than any game he had against us in the playoffs. Mitch 2 pts 11 reb and -5.

His highest scoring game in the playoffs was 14 and most rebs was 15. He scored 4 and 9 in the 2 games nerlens started

[3toheadmelo]

Shut capella down and completely dominated Ayton

And he's still not 100%

He never dominated Ayton not a day in his life

Capella had 16 pts and 21 rebs and was a +7, much much better than any game he had against us in the playoffs. Mitch 2 pts 11 reb and -5.

His highest scoring game in the playoffs was 14 and most rebs was 15. He scored 4 and 9 in the 2 games nerlens started

Ayton: 14 points 13 rebounds +8
Mitch: 7 points 8 rebounds -10

fat mitch getting super overrated

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

You clowned the fo for their past two drafts!!!!!!

We’ll it’s looking like they hit some home runs!!!!!!!!

Idk why you’re getting mad at me for calling out how wrong you were!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m just being honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS JUST WHAT I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!????!!!!!!!??!!

question marks too now. wow, look at the growth.

Question: faster developmental path. RJ as a player or TheGreenArrow as a poster?

TheGreenArrow has exponential growth in punctuation marks. And he has two unblockable moves: ! and ?.

RJ has damped sinusoidal player growth. And is blocked at the rim 87% of the time. When driving left.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

this year's version of julius is very different than last year. we're getting 2 years ago julius right now. he's shooting 41 and 33 from 3. last year he shot 45/41. that guy helped win us games. the guy from 2 years ago got us the 8th pick. if he doesn't regain his last year form forget about that discount he supposedly took, he's unmovable for value.

I wouldn't say he's 2 years ago Julius, he's kind of like a hybrid of the last 2 years

2019 Randle was still a very good finisher, and shot 52% on 2 pointers compared to this year's 45%. 2019 Randle couldn't shoot at all, taking 3.6 threes a game and shooting 28%, where this year he's at 5.6 per game shooting 33%. All in all, his eFG has gone from 49% in 2019 to 52% last year to 47% this year. 2019 Randle had a 1:1 a:to ratio at 3.1:3.0, where this year he's at 5.0:3.3

No matter how you call it though, he's not good

Last 10 games he's at 17/9/4 (with 3 turnovers a game), on .396/.321/.683 splits (.488 TS), with a Net rating of -10.2 compared to the team being +19.9 when he's off (meaning we go from being outscored by 10 points per100 with him on to outscoring teams by 20 points per100 when he's off). To be fair though, a lot of that is a starters vs bench thing, as when Randle has played with Kemba over the last 10 games, our Net is -18.9, and when he's played without Kemba, our Net is +4.4

Basically, the starters suck and the bench is great. While Kemba isn't the whole problem, him being on the court coincides with us playing worse. Frankly, I would look into making Rose the starter (but still keeping him at like 24 mpg) with Quick being the backup but getting starter minutes. Or just make Quick the starter. Or McBride, if his defense is as good as advertised.

Agreed, Kemba's not the whole problem. However, it does seem that he's the main problem. I don't really trust the D of either Rose or Quick, but both are probably better against the "average" starting PG than Kemba. (Obv, you can't really have Quick defend Luka or Ben or ... just for weight/strength reasons.)

[nedleeds]

This was a good win , but as a .500 ish team , you will get good wins bad loses.

This was a good watch , knicks had lead through most of the game .

The team looking better lately with thibs low key being benefited from starting lineup tinkering .

Mitch in concussion protocol , kemba gifting him a day off on a back 2 back . This is the issue basically -the starting lineup and right now we getting relief from that dubious lineup we are apparently stuck with .

Ok so maybe I gotta eat sh It because the Knicks won with an adjustment that wasn’t Mitch . My rebuttal is that it’s 1 game.

And I don’t care about being right , I’d this team just adjust and be good . Be watchable but I’ll be 100 that is too much to ask . If you want your team to win you watch and root regardless of what ever dumb stupid stuff the coach decides to do .

There’s a fine line . If the Knicks started winning by going on all 4’s and barking like dog , would you like that ? Watch that ?No not really but a lot of coaches and strategies are bastardizing the game .

I think Thibs is beginning to move in the direction that we want him to go. So long as we’re playing our best ball with our best players the last third of the season.

[RHODEY]

Shut capella down and completely dominated Ayton

And he's still not 100%

He never dominated Ayton not a day in his life

Capella had 16 pts and 21 rebs and was a +7, much much better than any game he had against us in the playoffs. Mitch 2 pts 11 reb and -5.

His highest scoring game in the playoffs was 14 and most rebs was 15. He scored 4 and 9 in the 2 games nerlens started

It wasn't all all about the stats. He had to work while Mitch and Sims were out there. Many of those rebounds were of the" Andre (by default(Drummond )" variety.

[HEZI]

Mitch never dominated anybody and Capela never dominated the Knicks in the playoffs

These are all false narratives and it’s why Mitch is the new Stinkilikina. We love doing this with guys who lack skills. But just as easy as it was to replace Stinkilikina in one summer with not one but two draft picks picks in Grimes and McBride, it’s going to be just as easy to replace washed Deandre

If we can trade him for a pick even a second rounder we should do it. The last thing we should be doing is resigning him

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

This was a good win , but as a .500 ish team , you will get good wins bad loses.

This was a good watch , knicks had lead through most of the game .

The team looking better lately with thibs low key being benefited from starting lineup tinkering .

Mitch in concussion protocol , kemba gifting him a day off on a back 2 back . This is the issue basically -the starting lineup and right now we getting relief from that dubious lineup we are apparently stuck with .

Ok so maybe I gotta eat sh It because the Knicks won with an adjustment that wasn’t Mitch . My rebuttal is that it’s 1 game.

And I don’t care about being right , I’d this team just adjust and be good . Be watchable but I’ll be 100 that is too much to ask . If you want your team to win you watch and root regardless of what ever dumb stupid stuff the coach decides to do .

There’s a fine line . If the Knicks started winning by going on all 4’s and barking like dog , would you like that ? Watch that ?No not really but a lot of coaches and strategies are bastardizing the game .

I think Thibs is beginning to move in the direction that we want him to go. So long as we’re playing our best ball with our best players the last third of the season.

Thibs probably needs more ablation than accumulation.

[KnixtapeH20]

He never dominated Ayton not a day in his life

Capella had 16 pts and 21 rebs and was a +7, much much better than any game he had against us in the playoffs. Mitch 2 pts 11 reb and -5.

His highest scoring game in the playoffs was 14 and most rebs was 15. He scored 4 and 9 in the 2 games nerlens started

It wasn't all all about the stats. He had to work while Mitch and Sims were out there. Many of those rebounds were of the" Andre (by default(Drummond )" variety.

Exactly right. We don't even have a point guard so how can the stats be anywhere near similar? He also plays with Randle who doesn't ever look to set Mitch up. Mitch boxes out rather than grabs the rebound himself. He doesn't get easy lobs, easy defensive rebounds... Mitch works for everything and covers for everyone