OFFICIAL: Dwight A Laker NOT a Net WHeee!!!

Post #441 » by **GONYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:39 am

seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

Afflalo is a 27 year old SG who is definitely nothing more than a great role player who is on a long and not so cheap contract.

And the Nuggets still wouldn't trade him for the Camby package...

seren · Post #442 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:40 am

Red Vines wrote:
seren wrote:
Several issues with your post. We don't know what other moves Lakers can and will do until then. They are willing to spend money more than any other team and they always make the right moves. Add to that, OKC may not be able to keep their core with Ibaka and Harden potentially getting close to max contracts.

Nothing wrong actually. I said ASSUMING THE CORE PLAYERS ARE STILL PLAYING. But I am saying a backcourt of Kobe and Nash in the 2014 playoffs will not beat OKC with Durant and Westbrook in their prime.

I think they can if there is nothing else left for OKC.

god shammgod · Post #443 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:40 am

blumatic wrote:
knicksnyk wrote:
Nono wrote:The stupidity of our front office if this deal goes through. Smh.

yup.

Where's the stupidity of our front office in this deal. Its not an exact science where we got the math wrong. There are people and agendas involved.

blu, let me help you out with a simple equation.

anything positive for any other team unrelated to the knicks = knicks suck.

you'll find that you can use this in almost any circumstance. good luck man.

Post #444 » by **GONYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:41 am

seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
Other teams know how the Knicks do business. They'll squeeze as much as they can from the Knicks because they know they'll get it..

Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?

They don't. Lakers usually make very fair deals. They just know how to negotiate and not overpay.

You can't be saying that with a straight face right now

SonOfMars · Post #445 » by **SonOfMars** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:41 am

so whats Orlandos starting lineup?

PG: Nelson
SG: Afflalo
SF: Turkoglu
PF: Big Baby
C: Andrew Nicholson?
6: Harrington

LOL..They dont even get a legit starter

I_Love_NYK · Post #446 » by **I_Love_NYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:41 am

Red Vines wrote:
seren wrote:
Several issues with your post. We don't know what other moves Lakers can and will do until then. They are willing to spend money more than any other team and they always make the right moves. Add to that, OKC may not be able to keep their core with Ibaka and Harden potentially getting close to max contracts.

Nothing wrong actually. I said ASSUMING THE CORE PLAYERS ARE STILL PLAYING. But I am saying a backcourt of Kobe and Nash in the 2014 playoffs will not beat OKC with Durant and Westbrook in their prime.

And a Frontcourt of Perkins and Ibaka will not stop Howard and Gasol if Howard stays.

albert · Post #447 » by **albert** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

lazard wrote:
albert wrote:
GONYK wrote:Why do people think that we would get the same type of deal the Lakers get? When has that ever happened?

The Tyson deal would be fairly comparable. We can't say we didn't get a steal with that one.

I don't think the Knicks offering Chandler the biggest contract (of teams interested) can be considered a steal.

The Warriors had offered a $60 million deal for Tyson no? But I get what everyone is saying. The Gasol deal is definitely illuminated since they made the Finals right after acquiring him, but yes, the Lakers are perpetually amazing.

Quick Kick · Post #448 » by **Quick Kick** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

I have a theory that teams know a successful LA team brings in more revenue for owners of smal market teams....thats why they trade all the stars there for peanuts. The NBA owners need them to be dominant for profit sharing purposes.

god shammgod · Post #449 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

GONYK wrote:
seren wrote:
They don't. Lakers usually make very fair deals. They just know how to negotiate and not overpay.

You can't be saying that with a straight face right now

i wonder if the lakers would trade for a maxed out bill walker ?

I_Love_NYK · Post #450 » by **I_Love_NYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

SonOfMars wrote:so whats Orlandos starting lineup?

PG: Nelson
SG: Afflalo
SF: Turkoglu
PF: Big Baby
C: Andrew Nicholson?
6: Harrington

LOL..They dont even get a legit starter

12-14 wins, guess they are going for the #1 pick.

[GR] · Post #451 » by **[GR]** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

Sixers turned Iggy into J. Richardson, and Bynum. They easily win this trade.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #452 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

I_Love_NYK wrote:
Red Vines wrote:
seren wrote:
Several issues with your post. We don't know what other moves Lakers can and will do until then. They are willing to spend money more than any other team and they always make the right moves. Add to that, OKC may not be able to keep their core with Ibaka and Harden potentially getting close to max contracts.

Nothing wrong actually. I said ASSUMING THE CORE PLAYERS ARE STILL PLAYING. But I am saying a backcourt of Kobe and Nash in the 2014 playoffs will not beat OKC with Durant and Westbrook in their prime.

And a Frontcourt of Perkins and Ibaka will not stop Howard and Gasol.

Fixed. Dwight isn't leaving LA. He's not signing the extension during the season because it makes more sense financially to wait until he's a FA.

blumatic · Post #453 » by **blumatic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

GONYK wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
Other teams know how the Knicks do business. They'll squeeze as much as they can from the Knicks because they know they'll get it..

Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?[/quote]

This is the answer that should be answered. Not why the Knicks are so bad as a front office? What date rape drug Mitch/Buss using?

If not for Stern they would have gotten CP3. They get it done. They are every good. GOAT.

seren · Post #454 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 am

GONYK wrote:
seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?

They don't. Lakers usually make very fair deals. They just know how to negotiate and not overpay.

You can't be saying that with a straight face right now

I have a very straight face. Last time I checked basketball is not played 2 on 2. With Harden/Ibaka gone, OKC is a good playoff team but not better than Lakers with Howard/Gasol inside and an old Kobe/Nash backcourt.

CrazyKnicks · Post #455 » by **CrazyKnicks** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:43 am

god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

it might not get you al harrington.

Point is those guys will have as much "impact" for Orl as Jorts and TD will for Hous. Both will have 0 impact and none of the players has a promising future.

blumatic · Post #456 » by **blumatic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:44 am

seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?

They don't. Lakers usually make very fair deals. They just know how to negotiate and not overpay.

Are you saying that Pau Gasol deal was fair?

seren · Post #457 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:44 am

Funny how Denver has been shuffling and reshuffling their roster constantly.

red32 · Post #458 » by **red32** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:44 am

Wow, how da hell are The Lakers able to pull off deals like this?! First Nash, and now Howard?! Damn. And also when they got Gasol, it was a steal. Plus, these trades usually paid off. Wow. It sucks to be a Knicks fan looking at what The Lakers' done. :nonono:

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #459 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:44 am

Why is everyone comparing the Dwight deal to the melo deal. Did we give up the second best player in the league at Melos position?

ibraheim718 · Post #460 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:45 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:I still don't think this is happening.

Ken Berger (@KBergCBS)
8/9/12 11:15 PM
Two of the sources caution that they have not heard directly from Orlando management that the Magic have agreed to the deal.

Could just be gauging reaction... it's a bad trade. Damn twitter.. needs to be burned to the ground.