fdr2012 wrote:You really don't get it do you? I've been a Knicks fan for over 30 year. Basically since I can remember myself. Being a fan of a team, any team, is completely irrational and completely emotional. A sports fan is irrational by definition.
As a Knicks fan who went through the 90's, I can tell you one thing - I freaking HATE the Chicago Bulls. For me, they are the sports-world equivalent of Al-Qaeda. I really can't see the point of watching 10 men in shorts, chasing an orange object, if you don't have an (irrational) emotional attachment to one of those teams.
So, I'm sorry to break it to you, but as a self-admitted irrational KNICKS fan, I will proudly proclaim again and again my utter disgust and hatred towards the Bulls franchise and my wishes (hopes) that they will continue to fail. I guess this means I have "issues", but I think I can proudly live with them. However, none of this changes the FACT that this Bull steam (without Rose) is a completely irrelevant 6th seed, which will go nowhere.
P.S Whether the Knicks are relevant or are contenders has nothing to do with this debate. The records speak for themselves.
I get it dude, I probably hate the Bulls more than you do seeing as I'm a Pacers fan and they play in the same division. But I'm willing to acknowledge they're a good team and what they're doing is impressive. You can hate a team and still respect what they're doing on the court.
I don't know how you can other teams are irrelevant when saying one team sucks and your team is on par with them. It's not like the standings are set in stone and a week ago the Knicks were the #2 seed while the Pacers were the #4 seed. That's how quickly things change so if records stand for themselves, I guess you're acknowledging the Pacers are better than the Knicks. Even though they weren't a week ago apparently.
Being a Knicks fan of 30 years as you claim to be, I don't know you can claim that records stand for themselves. For starters, teams have different schedules so if you have 3 more games against the Bobcats and Bulls have 3 more games against the Thunder or something, it's not as simple as saying records speak for themselves. But as a Knicks fan of all people, what about 1999? Funny how the #8 seed Knicks made it to the championship. That is definitive proof that standings don't speak for themselves. You've also got the #8 seed Nuggets and Warriors knocking off #1 seeds. There are teams with lesser records constantly knocking off higher seeded teams. There are so many variables as to why records are what they are. To flat out say standings speak for themselves is a lie.
The Knicks aren't the only New York team that is living breathing proof of a team is what there records says they are. How about the 9-7 Giants winning the Super Bowl? Or how about the 10-6 Giants beating the undefeated Patriots?
You can go right on ahead thinking whatever it is you believe but it doesn't mean other people are wrong for not having the same opinions and logic you do. I not only hate the Bulls as a division rival, I hate a lot of their players going back to their college days. I'm a Tennessee Vol fan and I absolutely loathe rival Memphis/Rose and rival Florida/Noah. I also hate Duke/Boozer/Deng in general. I'm with you on hoping the Bulls franchise falls apart and completely sucks. It doesn't mean I can't acknowledge they're a good enough ball club and would probably be the #2 seed ahead of my team and maybe even #1 seed if they had Rose. You saw the way the Cavs fell apart when Lebron left. With Rose, the Bulls had the best record in the entire league and being an MVP, I wouldn't put it past the Bulls being ahead of even the Heat with him.
And I still disagree with your assessment of comparing a team playing a game to a group committing murder. I take sports far too seriously but to have that much hate is a whole other level. Taking it that far almost makes me wonder if you not only wish injuries but death on players.