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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#441 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:38 am

blueNorange wrote:not for nothing but jr smith probably loves being called a thug, especially after that article that ripped his entire street cred in half when the article talked about how jr smith was a good rich boy growing up that went to private school


me and peoples was dissing him for that. Jr Smith is fraud number one. Melo grew up in the projects in BK. Lived in West Bmore where its crazy. This dude Jr Smith had a good life and thinks he a thug. Melo environment molded some of his choices. Jr Smiths didn't. Dudes want to leave the hood who are poor. This dude was born outside of it, gets rich and wants to be in it. Poser in full force.

Its like when clowns like Chris Brown claim they Gang Affiliated and are bangers. :lol:
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#442 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:38 am

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Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.

How is Melo a dumb thug? What has he done lately to be labeled a thug? Please, tell me...

Melo is still very important to this team. How many games have we won without him the last few years? Don't play yourself...


How has resigning Melo to that max contract been treating ya? :nod:


Lemme know when you come back from your suspension how your time off treated ya. :nod:


Edit - apparently you're banned now. Oops. Happy Holidays!
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#443 » by Rotten Apple » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:39 am

Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.


This type of stuff is really allowed here.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#444 » by blueNorange » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:42 am

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blueNorange wrote:not for nothing but jr smith probably loves being called a thug, especially after that article that ripped his entire street cred in half when the article talked about how jr smith was a good rich boy growing up that went to private school


me and peoples was dissing him for that. Jr Smith is fraud number one. Melo grew up in the projects in BK. Lived in West Bmore where its crazy. This dude Jr Smith had a good life and thinks he a thug. Melo environment molded some of his choices. Jr Smiths didn't. Dudes want to leave the hood who are poor. This dude was born outside of it, gets rich and wants to be in it. Poser in full force.

Its like when clowns like Chris Brown claim they Gang Affiliated and are bangers. :lol:

i don't trash melo for his upbringing, almost all my friends have had similar lifestyles so i respect him for that. i also really like melo, i got banned from the GB forum because i defended him. he's a first ballot HOF even without a ring, however he's on the decline and im from the school cashing out before we're stuck with another joakim noah.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#445 » by PeoplesChamp » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:35 am

NYKMentality85 wrote:Serious question.

Has George Karl ever publicly degraded and insulted players such as Chris Mullin, Detlef Schrempf, Vinny Del Negro, Toni Kukoc, Steve Blake, Chris Andersen, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Kosta Koufos, Omri Casspi, Marco Belinelli and/or David Stockton?

Or, does George Karl only attack, go after and insult his former black players?


I always thought he was just an assshole but after this latest stuff, I definitely think there's an air of racism about him. Look at what he complained about. The money they made, and the lack of a father. He's invoking bad stereotypes about rich young Black men. In the case of Anthony, it's an especially low blow because Melo's father died of cancer when he was two. Yet the way Karl framed it invokes the overblown stereotype of an absent Black father. If you didn't know Melo's history, you might assume that was the case. Karl couldn't even get along with Ray Allen, who is as coachable as anyone who's ever lived.

Kenyon Martin revealed that Karl wouldn't even speak to his players in the locker room. As if they were beneath him. I always thought of him as an overrated jackass, but I think it's clear now he has racist feelings as well.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#446 » by Rotten Apple » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:52 am

According to SAS. Melo played a huge role in Karl getting a contract extension, Karl told Melo go to New Jersey because he wanted Derrick Favors and didn't like the players the Knicks had to offer(which is another story in itself)

Karl is a clown for real.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#447 » by Oscirus » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:20 am

Rotten Apple wrote:According to SAS. Melo played a huge role in Karl getting a contract extension, Karl told Melo go to New Jersey because he wanted Derrick Favors and didn't like the players the Knicks had to offer(which is another story in itself)

Karl is a clown for real.


To be fair on that second part, if you can get someone to go where you want to get the players you want, why not?

That being said, yea he's an egotistical clown.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#448 » by Coeur » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:00 am

G Karl is a bastard. He is why I stopped paying for season tickets. He is why I **** all you guys and became **** knick fan. He ruined a nug fan from kid to adult. Now I follow knicks because I had to leave g Karl nugs. (I actually vowed to wait out Karl AND STAN KRoenke. Kroenkes are idiot aholeluckyto marry into walmArT fools.


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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#449 » by Johnny Hoops » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:08 am

Poor JR, KMart and Welo ---- that G-Karl is a bad word head ( he's a meanie).

Didn't JR kill someone in a vehicular homocide?

That is a classy trio there - JR, Melo , KMart ---- no idea why George might take some shots at any of those guys - no idea.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#450 » by GONYK » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:25 am

Johnny Hoops wrote:Poor JR, KMart and Welo ---- that G-Karl is a bad word head ( he's a meanie).

Didn't JR kill someone in a vehicular homocide?

That is a classy trio there - JR, Melo , KMart ---- no idea why George might take some shots at any of those guys - no idea.


What does JR's transgressions have to do with Melo and KMart?

What have those two done to be lumped in as a "trio" with Smith?
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#451 » by GONYK » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:29 am

Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.


So Melo is a "dumb thug" because he doesn't play defense to a level that you approve of?

This post is incredibly ignorant, and says way more about you than it does about Melo or Martin.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#452 » by Pr0nzingis » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:44 am

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Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.


This is by far one of the All-Time worst posts here on RealGM. Although coming from a ballboy with a Porzingis username isn't surprising. I'm a big time fan of K.P but this person is no fan of the New York Knicks; he's/she's simply a Porzingis fanboy. Grain of salt.

In regards to George Karl, what Kenyon Martin stated spoke volumes. It's much deeper than not having a relationship with his players. There were times where Karl wouldn't even speak to his players while walking through the locker room. Which is as arrogant, stuck up, egotistical & as rude/rotten as they come. I won't say he's a racist who doesn't like black people, but he certainly didn't like his players (who were mostly black).

Argument 1, Off course the race card, does having a brain means i'm white? Is that it?
Argument 2, Karl being a prick doesn't make him wrong.
Argument 3, I guess if you murder someone in a robbery it's ok because the idea of the robbery was from someone else! Melo waiting for KG like an idiot, sucker puching a midget was K-mart fault also?

Arguments that actually debunked something i said = ZERO!

And i guess saying "all-time worst post" isn't arrogant at all, only racist Karl is arrogant!

Yes i'm a Porzingis fan, he is good, but most important he is smart and unselfish soemthing you want in a leader and can actually move the franchise forward, unlike Melo that all he have done was set the franchise back.

Want more? I lmao couple years back when everyone was saying he should play at 4, when he was shooting 20% from layups, today he is shooting better because he doesn't even try contested layups, because he can't make them, LITERALLY, he is becoming more and more a very expensive version of Steve Novak, the worse part was that everyone expected and waited for him to get it, but he never did. He game evolved? Nowhere near to offset his already visible decline. And i bet my months pay that he was bleeding inside everytime Rose took over and won Knicks games.

I don't get it how a Knick fan can be against any kind of Melo criticism, it can only do him good, maybe a tiny part can get through his egotistical shield and actually make him a better person and player, it's not like we are paying him a zagillion for the next 5 years... oh wait we are.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#453 » by Pr0nzingis » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:51 am

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Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.


So Melo is a "dumb thug" because he doesn't play defense to a level that you approve of?

This post is incredibly ignorant, and says way more about you than it does about Melo or Martin.

Your reading skills says a lot about you.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#454 » by god shammgod » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:19 pm

it's not just jr, melo and kenyon who had a problem with george. kendall gill talks about how much he hated him. claims he made him suffer from depression. ray allen too. there are lots of players who he rubbed the wrong way. it's not really a new story.
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Post#455 » by NYKMentality85 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:53 pm

god shammgod wrote:it's not just jr, melo and kenyon who had a problem with george. kendall gill talks about how much he hated him. claims he made him suffer from depression. ray allen too. there are lots of players who he rubbed the wrong way. it's not really a new story.


Good points. If a class act such as Ray Allen wanted nothing to do with the personality of George Karl (or vice versa)? Well, then, that speaks volumes within itself.

I've asked this question once before but...

Has George Karl ever publicly degraded and insulted players such as Chris Mullin, Detlef Schrempf, Vinny Del Negro, Toni Kukoc, Steve Blake, Chris Andersen, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Kosta Koufos, Omri Casspi, Marco Belinelli and/or David Stockton?

Or has George Karl only attacked, went after, insulted and been a burden on his former black players?

Because the more i sit back and think about it the more i feel as if George Karl (the person) is indeed a cold hearted, rotten & miserable racist.

How many of those non-black player's mentioned & listed above were used as target practice during "his book"? That's what I'd like to know (although i won't purchase his little book in order to find out).
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Post#456 » by Pr0nzingis » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:23 pm

NYKMentality85 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:it's not just jr, melo and kenyon who had a problem with george. kendall gill talks about how much he hated him. claims he made him suffer from depression. ray allen too. there are lots of players who he rubbed the wrong way. it's not really a new story.


Good points. If a class act such as Ray Allen wanted nothing to do with the personality of George Karl (or vice versa)? Well, then, that speaks volumes within itself.

I've asked this question once before but...

Has George Karl ever publicly degraded and insulted players such as Chris Mullin, Detlef Schrempf, Vinny Del Negro, Toni Kukoc, Steve Blake, Chris Andersen, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Kosta Koufos, Omri Casspi, Marco Belinelli and/or David Stockton?

Or has George Karl only attacked, went after, insulted and been a burden on his former black players?

Because the more i sit back and think about it the more i feel as if George Karl (the person) is indeed a cold hearted, rotten & miserable racist.

How many of those non-black player's mentioned & listed above were used as target practice during "his book"? That's what I'd like to know (although i won't purchase his little book in order to find out).

1st, in what way did he insulted Melo? By speaking the truth?What lie have Karl said about Melo? I'm not even bother with what was said about dumbasses like k-mart or Jr.

2nd, should i list every black player George Karl didn't "insult"?

3rd, To the matter at hand, who cares if he is racist? Did he said any lie?

4th, The lengths people go defending an idiot that FORCED the Knicks to GUT a talented team for him, because of his HUGE ego, when Knicks could've got him as a FA just a few more months. A idiot that bashed Prozingis pick and Hardway trade, two good moves for the franchise, because they were not so good for his illustrious career.
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Post#457 » by god shammgod » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:31 pm

i'm starting to feel like you don't like melo
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#458 » by NYKMentality85 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:57 pm

god shammgod wrote:i'm starting to feel like you don't like melo


My thoughts exactly. Is this guy TKF reincarnated or something? He sure reminds me of him.

He mentions the Melo trade who's gone on to win an NBA Scoring title and 5 All-Star appearances since being traded to N.Y (along with being U.S.A's 1st & only 3x Gold Medal Olympian).

"Gutted the team".

What has Raymond Felton ever done since the trade?

What has Danilo Gallinari gone on to accomplish?

What about Wilson Chandler? What's Wilson accomplished dating back to the Melo trade?

What has Timofey Mozgov ever done outside of riding the jock strap of Kyrie Irving, LeBron James & Kevin Love?

For a matter of fact Gallo, Chandler & Mozgov are currently leading their two teams to some of the worst records within the entire NBA. Gallo/Wilson are playing for a 12-18 Denver team while Mozgov is starting for an 11-22 (lottery) L.A Lakers team.

Meanwhile Melo is fighting for the 3 seed come 12:00 today vs. Boston and also on pace to go down as one of the greatest NBA pure scorers of All-Time (on the verge of an All-Time top 10 NBA scorer).
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Post#459 » by GONYK » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:20 pm

Pr0nzingis wrote:
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Pr0nzingis wrote:Everything he said it's 100% true. Melo JR and K-Mart are dumb thugs.

Melo plays defense today? lol The only reason of Knicks switching on defense all these years was Melo not wanting to run. Melo is the guy that gives you ZERO effort so that he can shoot 40%, if he gives you 10% effort he shoots 30%. Forget about defense, this is the guy that asks for the ball and then makes ZERO effort to put himself in a position to receive the ball, it's hilarious.

It's unbelievable how a shadow of his former self like Rose so easily made himself more important to the team than Melo and so easily made it obvious why the Knicks were so terrible last year, by showing us what a superstar really is.

Melo is a fat ass cancer, that shoots 20% on layups, only idiots can still be eluded by those few games where he actually shoots the ball well, while giving you the usual ZERO effort in everything else.

The day Knicks trade this loser, it's the day the Knicks takes a huge step forward.


Oh and Karl didn't go personal he was actually making excuses for them.


So Melo is a "dumb thug" because he doesn't play defense to a level that you approve of?

This post is incredibly ignorant, and says way more about you than it does about Melo or Martin.

Your reading skills says a lot about you.

Yea, it shows I can spot a fool in one post. You have no real justification for the way you chose to describe them.

If you would like to clarify why you called two men with a respected history on the court and multiple charities off of it "thugs", go for it.
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Re: George Karl at it again... 

Post#460 » by dakomish23 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:22 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:Poor JR, KMart and Welo ---- that G-Karl is a bad word head ( he's a meanie).

Didn't JR kill someone in a vehicular homocide?

That is a classy trio there - JR, Melo , KMart ---- no idea why George might take some shots at any of those guys - no idea.


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