Around the NBA - playoff bubble continued

3toheadmelo · Post #441 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Somebody check on Chanel

Missed the second half. I call that a wise decision.

Lol
Refs were terrible but Jokic was a no show... he needs to step it up

DaGawd · Post #442 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:50 pm

Don't feel like digging.. saw a rumor KAT wants out of Minny..

3toheadmelo · Post #443 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:50 pm

15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

Post #444 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:53 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

3toheadmelo · Post #445 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:01 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

DaGawd · Post #446 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:06 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

Think he's playing uninspired in Minnesota.. Let's bring him home and watch his defensive intensity ratchet up a few levels

HEZI · Post #447 » by **HEZI** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:09 pm

Morant at 4 and Trae Young not even on the list?

Uhm yeah ok

DaGawd · Post #448 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:11 pm

HEZI wrote:Morant at 4 and Trae Young not even on the list?

Uhm yeah ok

Seems like a very prisoner of the moment/ flavor of the month type of list.

Post #449 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:13 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

HEZI · Post #450 » by **HEZI** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Neither can Jokic and he's in the conference finals

KAT is a monster offensively his team has just sucked for a long time. Similar to KP and AD his franchise has failed to properly build around him.

3toheadmelo · Post #451 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:20 pm

DaGawd wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

Think he's playing uninspired in Minnesota.. Let's bring him home and watch his defensive intensity ratchet up a few levels

Usually when players come to the Knicks their defense gets worse :lol:

KAT is just too lazy

Post #452 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm

HEZI wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Neither can Jokic and he's in the conference finals

KAT is a monster offensively his team has just sucked for a long time. Similar to KP and AD his franchise has failed to properly build around him.

he is a monster offensively a Jokic defense is a liability as well. I think Jokic ability to be a playmaker is just so far an beyond any big that it makes up for his lack of defense. KAT is not a bad passer but he's also no Joker.

3toheadmelo · Post #453 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:24 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Went from looking like a great defender in the making at UK to this. Crazy

Towns currently ranks 405 of 513 players in NBA.com’s defensive win shares, and has an awful 115.4 defensive rating. That means a starting lineup of five Towns would yield 115 points to any opponent. The Wolves are actually a minus 2.2 points per 100 possessions with KAT on the court, according to Basketball-Reference.

3toheadmelo · Post #454 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:26 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Neither can Jokic and he's in the conference finals

KAT is a monster offensively his team has just sucked for a long time. Similar to KP and AD his franchise has failed to properly build around him.

he is a monster offensively a Jokic defense is a liability as well. I think Jokic ability to be a playmaker is just so far an beyond any big that it makes up for his lack of defense. KAT is not a bad passer but he's also no Joker.

And Jokic's defense is not as bad KAT's. I believe the metrics had Jokic as at least average on defense this season. KAT's metric's are like at the bottom of the league.

Post #455 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Went from looking like a great defender in the making at UK to this. Crazy
Towns currently ranks 405 of 513 players in NBA.com’s defensive win shares, and has an awful 115.4 defensive rating. That means a starting lineup of five Towns would yield 115 points to any opponent. The Wolves are actually a minus 2.2 points per 100 possessions with KAT on the court, according to Basketball-Reference.

He was my #1 in that draft not because I thought he had this offensive potential but I thought he would be a really good offensive player but also a really good defensive player.

He turned into an elite offensive big and a horrible defensive big. So weird :lol:

Post #456 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:27 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Blessed to have these guys on my team..stuck with the vision and it’s paying off

It’s crazy how KAT is at the bottom of this list. I really thought he was gonna be like the next AD.

he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Went from looking like a great defender in the making at UK to this. Crazy
Towns currently ranks 405 of 513 players in NBA.com’s defensive win shares, and has an awful 115.4 defensive rating. That means a starting lineup of five Towns would yield 115 points to any opponent. The Wolves are actually a minus 2.2 points per 100 possessions with KAT on the court, according to Basketball-Reference.

i was convinced KAT was gonna be the next great big. so sad.

RHODEY · Post #457 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:32 pm

DaGawd wrote:Don't feel like digging.. saw a rumor KAT wants out of Minny..

Watch on YouTube

KAT: Yo DLO I got you these going away gifts

DLO: WHACHU mean I just got to Minny?

KAT: I know but Im out ..,

PS: I should have knowm that NY cap was the red/flag elephant in the room

3toheadmelo · Post #458 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:33 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Went from looking like a great defender in the making at UK to this. Crazy
Towns currently ranks 405 of 513 players in NBA.com’s defensive win shares, and has an awful 115.4 defensive rating. That means a starting lineup of five Towns would yield 115 points to any opponent. The Wolves are actually a minus 2.2 points per 100 possessions with KAT on the court, according to Basketball-Reference.

He was my #1 in that draft no because I thought he had this offensive potential but I thought he would be a really good offensive player but also a really good defensive player.

He turned into an elite offensive big and a horrible defensive big. So weird

Yeah. That's why he overtook Okafor.

Another weird thing that happened like this was Ayton. He was supposed to be terrible defensively like KAT is now but actually looks like the opposite.

Or even Josh Jackson who was great as a defender in collge and now is terrible on that end. It's crazy. I guess some players stop trying when they get in the league cause they're satisfied and the one's who want to be great try to get better.

Chanel Bomber · Post #459 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:34 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:15 NBA talent evaluators including 4 GM’s, 6 executives and 5 scouts did a poll of the best young talent in the NBA

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Devin Booker
4. Ja Morant
5. Donovan Mitchell
5. Bam Adabayo
7. Jamal Murray
7. Zion Williamson
9. Ben Simmons
9. Brandon Ingram
11. Jaylen Brown
11. De'Aaron Fox
13. KAT

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/

I got:

1. Zion
2. Luka
3. Trae
4. Book
5. Tatum/Murray

HEZI · Post #460 » by **HEZI** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
he can't play defense, if that doesn't change his upside is limited

Neither can Jokic and he's in the conference finals

KAT is a monster offensively his team has just sucked for a long time. Similar to KP and AD his franchise has failed to properly build around him.

he is a monster offensively a Jokic defense is a liability as well. I think Jokic ability to be a playmaker is just so far an beyond any big that it makes up for his lack of defense. KAT is not a bad passer but he's also no Joker.

Jokic passing doesnt make up for his terrible defense. He's far worse than KAT defensively