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2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

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Pick one

Obi Toppin
12
12%
Tyrese Maxey
4
4%
Isaac Okoro
9
9%
Killian Hayes
33
33%
Aaron Nesmith
4
4%
RJ Hampton
2
2%
Kira Lewis
25
25%
Patrick Williams
2
2%
Devin Vassell
3
3%
Other
5
5%
 
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#441 » by knickstape21 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:17 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft


Saddiq!!!!

What’s not to like about his game?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#442 » by god shammgod » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:18 pm

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i never thought they would do much of this
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#443 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:19 pm

3 out of 10 workouts for the Knicks...Not sure if anyone else is confirmed so far?

1. Obi Toppin
2. Kira Lewis
3. Saddiq Bey

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#444 » by Zenzibar » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:19 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:Actually, this whole thing with Knicks fans and overmatched first options is overblown. If you look into our past, we've had a lot of overmatched first options we revere. We just don't accept overmatched first options that don't put in effort on defense. How else do you understand the Frank love?

My theory is this. Defense is often seen as a function of effort, and in NYC, you don't survive without effort.

Frank love? 50% of Knicks fans hate him :lol:



Don't count your opinion just yet, the majority of mail-in ballots are all in favor of Frankie Prince.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#445 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:19 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Oh we’re comparing FVV to Randle now? :lol:

FVV has proven that he can be a winning player. He was a key contributor for the Raptors in the damn NBA Finals.

Randle has yet to play a single playoff game in his career. He has no track record whatsoever of being a winning player.

If FVV signs with the understanding that he will have to share playmaking duties with RJ and that he’s not gonna be the sole decision-maker out there on the floor, then he would be a good signing for the Knicks. We need to sign players who can fit eoth RJ and Mitch and help their development. FVV fits the archetype.

FVV and your boy Jokic in the playoffs this year
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I can’t find any image for Randle because he’s never made it to the playoffs. It’s just a blank canvas :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#446 » by DaGawd » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:19 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft

Oh **** this is the first I’m hearing of Knicks interest in Terry
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#447 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:20 pm

Randle in the playoffs:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#448 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:Actually, this whole thing with Knicks fans and overmatched first options is overblown. If you look into our past, we've had a lot of overmatched first options we revere. We just don't accept overmatched first options that don't put in effort on defense. How else do you understand the Frank love?

My theory is this. Defense is often seen as a function of effort, and in NYC, you don't survive without effort.

Frank love? 50% of Knicks fans hate him :lol:



Don't count your opinion just yet, the majority of mail-in ballots are all in favor of Frankie Prince.

He gets a lot of hate on twitter and Reddit. Outside of the Knicks board he’s labeled as a bum :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#449 » by mpharris36 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:23 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
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i never thought they would do much of this


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#450 » by god shammgod » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:24 pm

DaGawd wrote:Kind of OT but I’m glad a somewhat “old head” said this..




I think Gilbert is right.. and it’s kind of why I’m a lil skeptical on if the game has passed Thibs by.. of course playing great defense is important still. But you also have to have fire power to compete in today’s NBA.. just getting by on defense only like the 04 pistons won’t cut it


you still need both. dallas had the best offense in the league. they were 16th in defense. how far did that take them ? the team with the best combined offense and defense was....the los angeles lakers. the only team that was top 6 in both. but if you establish the defense first as a team, you'll attract the stars that make your offense good. there's value in a thibs lead team...for now at least.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#451 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Oh we’re comparing FVV to Randle now? :lol:

FVV has proven that he can be a winning player. He was a key contributor for the Raptors in the damn NBA Finals.

Randle has yet to play a single playoff game in his career. He has no track record whatsoever of being a winning player.

If FVV signs with the understanding that he will have to share playmaking duties with RJ and that he’s not gonna be the sole decision-maker out there on the floor, then he would be a good signing for the Knicks. We need to sign players who can fit eoth RJ and Mitch and help their development. FVV fits the archetype.

FVV and your boy Jokic in the playoffs this year
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I can’t find any image for Randle because he’s never made it to the playoffs. It’s just a blank canvas :lol:

Your guys got carried by Kawhi and Murray. Don’t give them credit for doing nothing. This is chokic and fvv in the playoffs :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#452 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:31 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#453 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Kind of OT but I’m glad a somewhat “old head” said this..




I think Gilbert is right.. and it’s kind of why I’m a lil skeptical on if the game has passed Thibs by.. of course playing great defense is important still. But you also have to have fire power to compete in today’s NBA.. just getting by on defense only like the 04 pistons won’t cut it


you still need both. dallas had the best offense in the league. they were 16th in defense. how far did that take them ? the team with the best combined offense and defense was....the los angeles lakers. the only team that was top 6 in both. but if you establish the defense first as a team, you'll attract the stars that make your offense good. there's value in a thibs lead team...for now at least.


Yea, defense is still very important. Most of the best defensive teams were all contenders and in the playoffs. Defense and their versatility is a big part of what makes Lebron and AD great.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#454 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:32 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft


Saddiq!!!!

What’s not to like about his game?


I like Bey and think he is pretty safe and will be solid. Maybe just a questionable ceiling so not sure they would take him at #8....but maybe since its such a toss-up draft. They could also be looking at trade scenarios
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#455 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:33 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:FVV and your boy Jokic in the playoffs this year
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I can’t find any image for Randle because he’s never made it to the playoffs. It’s just a blank canvas :lol:

Your guys got carried by Kawhi and Murray. Don’t give them credit for doing nothing. This is chokic and fvv in the playoffs :lol:
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Lol Chokic.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#456 » by Reign23 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:34 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:He shot 40% from the field in the playoffs. 41% from the field in the season. Career 41% from the field. He’s inefficient. Put him in a bigger role he’s going to be worse.

but how do you know that? he got better every year. I'm not saying i want him for 25 million a year, but for 18-20 I'm in.

He’s nice signing if you already have a good team. We don’t. He’s about to be 27 and he’s an inefficient mini shooting guard. I’ll pass and tank for a better long term PG.

i get your point. but we are talking about the "just tank another year" forever now. I doubt that rose comes here and just plays young guys on the way to a 22-50 record.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#457 » by HerSports85 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:35 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#458 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:35 pm

That was a fast back track....nobody knows anything :lol:

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#459 » by god shammgod » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:36 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:That was a fast back track....nobody knows anything :lol:

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#460 » by knickstape21 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:37 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:notes from the athletic...some of it repeated info

-Knicks worked out and interviewed Kira
-Knicks worked out Saddiq Bey and Obi
-Knicks requested 2nd meeting with Terry
-Interviewed Okoro, no workout
-Shown interest in Hayes
-Nobody knows what the Knicks will end up doing...But they are doing a lot of research on PGs in this draft


Saddiq!!!!

What’s not to like about his game?


I like Bey and think he is pretty safe and will be solid. Maybe just a questionable ceiling so not sure they would take him at #8....but maybe since its such a toss-up draft. They could also be looking at trade scenarios


Let’s expand on the word “solid”

Cause I think a guy like Damyean Dotson is solid, but Saddiq will be much better, no?

Will he be better than a Jae Crowder? Probably, but Crowder has a lot of winning habits.

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