2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

[Reign23]

Anyone that wants to make the playoffs this year is an idiot, the amount of quality players in the top 10 of this draft is just crazy. Sorry, but I don't want brownie points for getting clubbed to death by the Sixers, the top 2 teams in the East would beat us in 4, they are both equally awful matchups for us. I'd much rather have a chance at drafting Cade/Kuminga/Mobley etc.

preach.

If we wanna out tank Minnesota, Washington & Detroit, who is going to Tonya-Harding RJ & Mitch? Those are the only teams who are clearly in a lower tier than we are, and we're not catching them without major injuries to the core.

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

[bleedblue3303]

preach.

If we wanna out tank Minnesota, Washington & Detroit, who is going to Tonya-Harding RJ & Mitch? Those are the only teams who are clearly in a lower tier than we are, and we're not catching them without major injuries to the core.

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

That's the beauty of this draft. Its not a 2 or 3 player draft. It's a 5 player draft. That is why its such a unique draft and landing one of those top 5 picks and potentially 2 with the Dallas pick can change the fortune of this franchise for a decade. That's why this win now and make playoffs mentality at all costs is a huge mistake.

[cgf]

preach.

If we wanna out tank Minnesota, Washington & Detroit, who is going to Tonya-Harding RJ & Mitch? Those are the only teams who are clearly in a lower tier than we are, and we're not catching them without major injuries to the core.

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

[knickstape4ever]

If we wanna out tank Minnesota, Washington & Detroit, who is going to Tonya-Harding RJ & Mitch? Those are the only teams who are clearly in a lower tier than we are, and we're not catching them without major injuries to the core.

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

[Reign23]

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

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[Reign23]

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of course..

[cgf]

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

Knox earned his DNPs; the coaching staff can't try/care for him. DSJ was in the GL because that's the level he should be working on his game at right now, not because Thibs hates kids. And I can't blame a coach for Frank managing to hurt himself (yet again) the instant that he was threatened with playing time. Those aren't valid criticizes of the coaching staff or their commitment to developing our kids.

And Obi is playing 11.7minutes a game. The extra ~4.3 mpg that he should be getting, do not negate the massive progress this staff has gotten out of RJ, Julius & Mitch; or how well they have been integrating Quickley so far...if you had complained that we don't run anything for Obi during his minutes, I would've agreed with you.


What playoff push? The one that has us 2-wins/1-loss out of the 4th pick, despite being abnormally lucky with injuries & covid? We can freak out about what they're going to give up for Dipo or Beal when those reports prove to have any more validity than the ones about how much we were going to give up for Westbrook in the offseason.

Until those rumors come to fruition, this staff is developing the core & just a minor injury to Rowan or Julius away from leading the pack behind DET / WAS / MIN


The answer is to stop trying to rush the rebuild. Instead, continue to add & develop young talent, while playing that asset management game that the FO have been doing well with the small stuff that they've done so far...

[Spree2Houston]

Teams move up in the lotto almost every year. We have 2 tries. Let’s hope one of them lands us in the top 3.

[knickstape4ever]

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

Knox earned his DNPs; the coaching staff can't try/care for him. DSJ was in the GL because that's the level he should be working on his game at right now, not because Thibs hates kids. And I can't blame a coach for Frank managing to hurt himself (yet again) the instant that he was threatened with playing time. Those aren't valid criticizes of the coaching staff or their commitment to developing our kids.

And Obi is playing 11.7minutes a game. The extra ~4.3 mpg that he should be getting, do not negate the massive progress this staff has gotten out of RJ, Julius & Mitch; or how well they have been integrating Quickley so far...if you had complained that we don't run anything for Obi during his minutes, I would've agreed with you.


What playoff push? The one that has us 2-wins/1-loss out of the 4th pick, despite being abnormally lucky with injuries & covid? We can freak out about what they're going to give up for Dipo or Beal when those reports prove to have any more validity than the ones about how much we were going to give up for Westbrook in the offseason.

Until those rumors come to fruition, this staff is developing the core & just a minor injury to Rowan or Julius away from leading the pack behind DET / WAS / MIN


The answer is to stop trying to rush the rebuild. Instead, continue to add & develop young talent, while playing that asset management game that the FO have been doing well with the small stuff that they've done so far...

Agree to disagree. From what I've seen Thibs' main focus seems to be winning games, rather than developing young players

IMO if we were most interested in developing the young players we would see Knox, Frank, Obi and DSJ (pre-trade) more. at this point it's looking like neither Frank or Knox have futures here and DSJ was shipped out

before the season the talk was that Knox, Frank, and DSJ would turn it around under Thibs and that w/ good, stable coaching, they can become players for us. instead, it's the opposite and they don't play in favor of Bullock, Rivers, Elf, etc.

By most accounts the Knicks are trying to make the playoffs and many fans are on board w/ that. it's talked about all the time now on here. one of the big debates: to push for playoffs or to get a higher draft pick

I agree that this team isn't very talented and not too far from the bottom and that a playoff push will ultimately be futile, but it looks like the Knicks FO/coaching staff thinks differently

[knickstape4ever]

Read on Twitter

of course..

how does a 6-16 team rest their star player in a game that is actually winnable?

aren't they trying to win games to avoid Beal asking out?

and if Beal is the one making that call, don't you want to win? otherwise, ask for a trade

[cgf]

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

Knox earned his DNPs; the coaching staff can't try/care for him. DSJ was in the GL because that's the level he should be working on his game at right now, not because Thibs hates kids. And I can't blame a coach for Frank managing to hurt himself (yet again) the instant that he was threatened with playing time. Those aren't valid criticizes of the coaching staff or their commitment to developing our kids.

And Obi is playing 11.7minutes a game. The extra ~4.3 mpg that he should be getting, do not negate the massive progress this staff has gotten out of RJ, Julius & Mitch; or how well they have been integrating Quickley so far...if you had complained that we don't run anything for Obi during his minutes, I would've agreed with you.


What playoff push? The one that has us 2-wins/1-loss out of the 4th pick, despite being abnormally lucky with injuries & covid? We can freak out about what they're going to give up for Dipo or Beal when those reports prove to have any more validity than the ones about how much we were going to give up for Westbrook in the offseason.

Until those rumors come to fruition, this staff is developing the core & just a minor injury to Rowan or Julius away from leading the pack behind DET / WAS / MIN


The answer is to stop trying to rush the rebuild. Instead, continue to add & develop young talent, while playing that asset management game that the FO have been doing well with the small stuff that they've done so far...

Agree to disagree. From what I've seen Thibs' main focus seems to be winning games, rather than developing young players

IMO if we were most interested in developing the young players we would see Knox, Frank, Obi and DSJ (pre-trade) more. at this point it's looking like neither Frank or Knox have futures here and DSJ was shipped out

before the season the talk was that Knox, Frank, and DSJ would turn it around under Thibs and that w/ good, stable coaching, they can become players for us. instead, it's the opposite and they don't play in favor of Bullock, Rivers, Elf, etc.

By most accounts the Knicks are trying to make the playoffs and many fans are on board w/ that. it's talked about all the time now on here. one of the big debates: to push for playoffs or to get a higher draft pick

I agree that this team isn't very talented and not too far from the bottom and that a playoff push will ultimately be futile, but it looks like the Knicks FO/coaching staff thinks differently

That wouldn't have helped our development, just our tank.

[knickstape4ever]

Knox earned his DNPs; the coaching staff can't try/care for him. DSJ was in the GL because that's the level he should be working on his game at right now, not because Thibs hates kids. And I can't blame a coach for Frank managing to hurt himself (yet again) the instant that he was threatened with playing time. Those aren't valid criticizes of the coaching staff or their commitment to developing our kids.

And Obi is playing 11.7minutes a game. The extra ~4.3 mpg that he should be getting, do not negate the massive progress this staff has gotten out of RJ, Julius & Mitch; or how well they have been integrating Quickley so far...if you had complained that we don't run anything for Obi during his minutes, I would've agreed with you.


What playoff push? The one that has us 2-wins/1-loss out of the 4th pick, despite being abnormally lucky with injuries & covid? We can freak out about what they're going to give up for Dipo or Beal when those reports prove to have any more validity than the ones about how much we were going to give up for Westbrook in the offseason.

Until those rumors come to fruition, this staff is developing the core & just a minor injury to Rowan or Julius away from leading the pack behind DET / WAS / MIN


The answer is to stop trying to rush the rebuild. Instead, continue to add & develop young talent, while playing that asset management game that the FO have been doing well with the small stuff that they've done so far...

Agree to disagree. From what I've seen Thibs' main focus seems to be winning games, rather than developing young players

IMO if we were most interested in developing the young players we would see Knox, Frank, Obi and DSJ (pre-trade) more. at this point it's looking like neither Frank or Knox have futures here and DSJ was shipped out

before the season the talk was that Knox, Frank, and DSJ would turn it around under Thibs and that w/ good, stable coaching, they can become players for us. instead, it's the opposite and they don't play in favor of Bullock, Rivers, Elf, etc.

By most accounts the Knicks are trying to make the playoffs and many fans are on board w/ that. it's talked about all the time now on here. one of the big debates: to push for playoffs or to get a higher draft pick

I agree that this team isn't very talented and not too far from the bottom and that a playoff push will ultimately be futile, but it looks like the Knicks FO/coaching staff thinks differently

That wouldn't have helped our development, just our tank.

it would help the development of those players, instead they look as if they have no future here. it would also help the tank, but really not by much. how many wins are Bullock and Elf really adding? 2 maybe 3? if it was a substantial upgrade, I'd be fine, but these vets are marginal upgrades

I don't think playing Knox hurts the development of RJ, put Knox in the corners and let him hit 3's, same w/ Frank (who can at least play defense too)

[cgf]

Agree to disagree. From what I've seen Thibs' main focus seems to be winning games, rather than developing young players

IMO if we were most interested in developing the young players we would see Knox, Frank, Obi and DSJ (pre-trade) more. at this point it's looking like neither Frank or Knox have futures here and DSJ was shipped out

before the season the talk was that Knox, Frank, and DSJ would turn it around under Thibs and that w/ good, stable coaching, they can become players for us. instead, it's the opposite and they don't play in favor of Bullock, Rivers, Elf, etc.

By most accounts the Knicks are trying to make the playoffs and many fans are on board w/ that. it's talked about all the time now on here. one of the big debates: to push for playoffs or to get a higher draft pick

I agree that this team isn't very talented and not too far from the bottom and that a playoff push will ultimately be futile, but it looks like the Knicks FO/coaching staff thinks differently

That wouldn't have helped our development, just our tank.

it would help the development of those players, instead they look as if they have no future here. it would also help the tank, but really not by much. how many wins are Bullock and Elf really adding? 2 maybe 3? if it was a substantial upgrade, I'd be fine, but these vets are marginal upgrades

I don't think playing Knox hurts the development of RJ, put Knox in the corners and let him hit 3's, same w/ Frank (who can at least play defense too)

Continuing to give Knox minutes would not have taught him to keep his effort level up even when he's not hot. If anything it would've taught him that it's ok to continue slacking...that's the lesson he's probably going to learn either way, but at least this way there is a chance that he is going to realize how hard he needs to work. And forcing Frank to play through an injury would've been awful for his development...regardless of how badly we all want him to earn a spot in the rotation.

Plus you are completely ignoring the negative impact on the development of RJ, Mitch, Julius, Obi & IQ, that force-feeding Knox / Frank / DSJ minutes would have had. Guys like Bullock, Burks, Noel, & now Rose have-been/are important because they allow our core guys to grow as part of a competitive rotation; rather than struggling to even keep their heads above water.


And nobody is disputing how badly elf sucks, that's why we are all praying for IQ to become consistent enough to start ASAFP. But Elf's immense suckitude doesn't change the fact that he hurts the starters less than the kids you are lambasting Thibs for not playing, would have.

[cgf]

Anyways, shaky return from Ziaire. Stanford as a whole looked awful, so it's hard for me to put too much blame on the kid they parked in the corner all game...especially with Wills back doing his best Elfrid-Payton-impression while making sure Ziaire never gets to create...but ZW still showed some rust that he needs to knock off ASAP & get back to the form he had been in prior to leaving the team.

[knickstape4ever]

That wouldn't have helped our development, just our tank.

it would help the development of those players, instead they look as if they have no future here. it would also help the tank, but really not by much. how many wins are Bullock and Elf really adding? 2 maybe 3? if it was a substantial upgrade, I'd be fine, but these vets are marginal upgrades

I don't think playing Knox hurts the development of RJ, put Knox in the corners and let him hit 3's, same w/ Frank (who can at least play defense too)

Continuing to give Knox minutes would not have taught him to keep his effort level up even when he's not hot. If anything it would've taught him that it's ok to continue slacking...that's the lesson he's probably going to learn either way, but at least this way there is a chance that he is going to realize how hard he needs to work. And forcing Frank to play through an injury would've been awful for his development...regardless of how badly we all want him to earn a spot in the rotation.

Plus you are completely ignoring the negative impact on the development of RJ, Mitch, Julius, Obi & IQ, that force-feeding Knox / Frank / DSJ minutes would have had. Guys like Bullock, Burks, Noel, & now Rose have-been/are important because they allow our core guys to grow as part of a competitive rotation; rather than struggling to even keep their heads above water.


And nobody is disputing how badly elf sucks, that's why we are all praying for IQ to become consistent enough to start ASAFP. But Elf's immense suckitude doesn't change the fact that he hurts the starters less than the kids you are lambasting Thibs for not playing, would have.

Frank came back healthy and hasn't played since. and when he comes back from h&s protocol, he'll still be out of the rotation.

I've watched every game and Knox has played much harder this year. I've been one of the biggest Knox haters since before he was drafted, but he has played harder and him falling out of the rotation coincided w/ his shooting slump

agree to disagree but I don't view the vets we have (Elf, Rivers, Bullock) as big difference makers that effect winning that much. like I said, maybe they add a few more wins by seasons end, but nothing substantial. the 2 vets I'm good w/: Burks for his shot creation is needed since our offense sucks and Noel for his rim protection b/c that is the foundation of our defense

I think Bullock and Elf can easily be replaced in the rotation w/o much effect

[WargamesX]

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of course..

how does a 6-16 team rest their star player in a game that is actually winnable?

aren't they trying to win games to avoid Beal asking out?

and if Beal is the one making that call, don't you want to win? otherwise, ask for a trade

I don’t think we’re a automatic winnable team. We are a team likely to give Beal trouble all night and force him to work hard...... while also scouting him to see if we could steal him.

There are levels to this

[WargamesX]

it would help the development of those players, instead they look as if they have no future here. it would also help the tank, but really not by much. how many wins are Bullock and Elf really adding? 2 maybe 3? if it was a substantial upgrade, I'd be fine, but these vets are marginal upgrades

I don't think playing Knox hurts the development of RJ, put Knox in the corners and let him hit 3's, same w/ Frank (who can at least play defense too)

Continuing to give Knox minutes would not have taught him to keep his effort level up even when he's not hot. If anything it would've taught him that it's ok to continue slacking...that's the lesson he's probably going to learn either way, but at least this way there is a chance that he is going to realize how hard he needs to work. And forcing Frank to play through an injury would've been awful for his development...regardless of how badly we all want him to earn a spot in the rotation.

Plus you are completely ignoring the negative impact on the development of RJ, Mitch, Julius, Obi & IQ, that force-feeding Knox / Frank / DSJ minutes would have had. Guys like Bullock, Burks, Noel, & now Rose have-been/are important because they allow our core guys to grow as part of a competitive rotation; rather than struggling to even keep their heads above water.


And nobody is disputing how badly elf sucks, that's why we are all praying for IQ to become consistent enough to start ASAFP. But Elf's immense suckitude doesn't change the fact that he hurts the starters less than the kids you are lambasting Thibs for not playing, would have.

Frank came back healthy and hasn't played since. and when he comes back from h&s protocol, he'll still be out of the rotation.

I've watched every game and Knox has played much harder this year. I've been one of the biggest Knox haters since before he was drafted, but he has played harder and him falling out of the rotation coincided w/ his shooting slump

agree to disagree but I don't view the vets we have (Elf, Rivers, Bullock) as big difference makers that effect winning that much. like I said, maybe they add a few more wins by seasons end, but nothing substantial. the 2 vets I'm good w/: Burks for his shot creation is needed since our offense sucks and Noel for his rim protection b/c that is the foundation of our defense

I think Bullock and Elf can easily be replaced in the rotation w/o much effect

As much as I like Frank last I seen him he had a noticeable brace under his leg compression sleeve and then went on COVID protocols.

[knickstape4ever]

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of course..

how does a 6-16 team rest their star player in a game that is actually winnable?

aren't they trying to win games to avoid Beal asking out?

and if Beal is the one making that call, don't you want to win? otherwise, ask for a trade

I don’t think we’re a automatic winnable team. We are a team likely to give Beal trouble all night and force him to work hard...... while also scouting him to see if we could steal him.

There are levels to this

not saying they were gonna win, just saying it's a winnable game for them w/ Beal. we're still 11-15 and w/ their offense/shooting, it's hard for any team to defend them. w/o Beal it's very unlikely they have a shot

[robillionaire]

Anyways, shaky return from Ziaire. Stanford as a whole looked awful, so it's hard for me to put too much blame on the kid they parked in the corner all game...especially with Wills back doing his best Elfrid-Payton-impression while making sure Ziaire never gets to create...but ZW still showed some rust that he needs to knock off ASAP & get back to the form he had been in prior to leaving the team.

i still don't see what you see in him, lots of red here

http://www.tankathon.com/players/ziaire-williams

[DowNY]

we are not landing at the bottom, no. but get as close as it gets and get more ping pong balls.

You have to strike a balance between ping pong balls and developing the young talent that we do have. Both are beneficial to a rebuild, but I care a lot more about the latter than the former because the ping pong balls won't matter if we can't start developing the young talent we do get.

So far this season we've been doing a good job of developing our talent and to me that's worth the 2 wins/1 loss that the Magic have on us in the tank-race...especially cause we've been abnormally lucky with health & covid so far, and could easily catch Orlando for the 4th spot if RJ or Julius misses just a week or two.

been playing mostly vets. RJ and Mitch have improved and IQ is looking good but our other young players have not been developed. Knox is now getting DNP'd, so is Frank, DSJ got traded, and Obi is playing 10 min a game

the culture is already much improved, you can tell by how hard they play

this playoff push is futile IMO b/c it's gonna result in a late lotto pick. the best, most feasible way to find a star is through the draft and top 5 looks like a solid bet to produce at least a couple this yr.

there aren't any star FA's hitting FA (no, Kawhi isn't coming here) and the cost of acquiring one via trade is one that is too much. We gonna trade our best players/picks for Beal and Lavine? not enough to make this team a contender. Bulls/Wizards ain't gonna accept our scraps, they'll want our best young players and picks, would that leave us in a better position than where the Bulls and Wizards are now?

ultimately, in my view our clearest path to landing a star Is via the draft

For every hit of a pick, there’s a bust of one. RJ, IQ & Mitch are the obvious good picks. Knox, Frank & Iggy are misses. TBD on Obi.

Happens with every team. Sixers hit on Simmons and Embiid but missed on Nerlens Noel & M Fultz