WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension

[whocares1]

This is the beginning of year 2 of Leon being in charge and dudes are asking where's the championships. Who says Knicks fans have patience.

More like asking for the blueprint for an inevitable championship. Maybe even the rough draft but it looks like we got the final draft of a C paper.

Isnt this how the Raptors won? Looks like a similar blueprint

Raptors have a way more talented roster, better offensive system and were able to make a trade for a superstar obviously they were opportunistic but use their homegrown talent (Derozan) and fortunate circumstance to get a superstar. Hell Lowry, Derozan, Siakim was a better core than what we have now. Hell add Valanciunas lol.

[Gravy]

More like asking for the blueprint for an inevitable championship. Maybe even the rough draft but it looks like we got the final draft of a C paper.

Isnt this how the Raptors won? Looks like a similar blueprint

Raptors have a way more talented roster, better offensive system and were able to make a trade for a superstar obviously they were opportunistic but use their homegrown talent (Derozan) and fortunate circumstance to get a superstar. Hell Lowry, Derozan, Siakim was a better core than what we have now. Hell add Valanciunas lol.

But that's what the Knicks are building towards. This is not a finished roster, no one seriously thinks this lineup we have today will win a championship. But RJ is in year 2, Lowry in his 2nd year averaged 9 points a game. Derozan didnt get on the all star team until year 4. Siakim took 3 years to look like an NBA player. Everyone called them a treadmill team 5 years ago and said they should blow it up. You are comparing a finished Raptors lineup to one that we just started.

You guys have plenty of patience to tank for 5-10 years without any guarantees you get a superstar but wont wait to see what this team becomes after a couple years in the playoffs and who they can add.

[TerrenceClarke]

[FrozenEnvelope]

Being the 6th-8th seed or the 2010 Atlanta Hawks the next few years is a lot better then being the Phil Jackson and Steve Mills Knicks and the laughing stock of the entire league.

[nedleeds]

The nedleeds plan to not win a title.

Lol the Bucks plan to win a title.

1) Have Kyrie get hurt
2) Have Harden get hurt
3) Have KD step out of bounds by 1 inch
4) Have AD get hurt
5) ???
6) PROFIT

All of those things are out of their control. So, should they just give the championship back to the NBA because of "bad luck"?

The end goal is to put yourself in a position where you can compete. And you never know how the ball bounces. They did it and won and they deserve it.

They also drafted in the teens.



Maybe we should try to build through the draft.

[nedleeds]

The nedleeds plan to not win a title.

Lol the Bucks plan to win a title.

1) Have Kyrie get hurt
2) Have Harden get hurt
3) Have KD step out of bounds by 1 inch
4) Have AD get hurt
5) ???
6) PROFIT

All of those things are out of their control. So, should they just give the championship back to the NBA because of "bad luck"?

The end goal is to put yourself in a position where you can compete. And you never know how the ball bounces. They did it and won and they deserve it.

And if they had just paid the luxury tax and kept Brogdon and 5 first rounders what would have happened?

[omerome]

Lol the Bucks plan to win a title.

1) Have Kyrie get hurt
2) Have Harden get hurt
3) Have KD step out of bounds by 1 inch
4) Have AD get hurt
5) ???
6) PROFIT

All of those things are out of their control. So, should they just give the championship back to the NBA because of "bad luck"?

The end goal is to put yourself in a position where you can compete. And you never know how the ball bounces. They did it and won and they deserve it.

They also drafted in the teens.



Maybe we should try to build through the draft.

We are. One of our core players was drafted #3. You know, RJ Barrett? And we still have Quickley, Robinson, and even Obi. But you surround your young guys with capable vets - exactly what a team like Milwaukee has done.

And we still have all of our draft picks to fortify our team when the right opportunity presents itself. You're not going to build a title contender overnight. It takes patience.

[ibraheim718]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue will always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

[mpharris36]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

[HarthorneWingo]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

I think our goal is to find that long-term PG. RJ also needs to take his game to the next level. He doesn't have to be an All Star, just show out a high degree of consistency even if it's 16-18 ppg, 6-7 rpg, 3-4 apg, 1-2 steals/game and play stellar defense. Starting the season strong would also be nice.

[ibraheim718]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

Somebody in that front office is really good at convincing guys to take less money.

So who can be that guy? Lillard is the obvious answer. He might be the only guy right now.

If a deal for Lillard was on the table I would dangle Barrett for Jimmy Butler.

Lillard, Butler, Randle is good enough for a championship.. especially if you can keep Robinson. You have an engine, a horse, and a straight jacket. This would have to happen now though. Besides shooters you have to have 1 more positive play maker.

[GONYK]

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

I think our goal is to find that long-term PG. RJ also needs to take his game to the next level. He doesn't have to be an All Star, just show out a high degree of consistency even if it's 16-18 ppg, 6-7 rpg, 3-4 apg, 1-2 steals/game and play stellar defense. Starting the season strong would also be nice.

Those were RJ's stats last season

[mpharris36]

I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

[robillionaire]

I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

whenever he gets fed up and demands a trade is when to strike

as it stands they were the #1 seed in the west so idk how bad he wants out yet. other than that he just signed an extension and is not a free agent until 2025 or 2026 so I'm not holding my breath on free agency

[ibraheim718]

I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

Mitchell would be an almost better fit than Lillard.

[mpharris36]

I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

whenever he gets fed up and demands a trade is when to strike

as it stands they were the #1 seed in the west so idk how bad he wants out yet. other than that he just signed an extension and is not a free agent until 2025 or 2026 so I'm not holding my breath on free agency

the knicks offseason showed they have no interest in getting there future star via FA. They basically have admitted they know they need to trade for that player. Who knows when Beal/Lillard decide to wake up in reality. Mitchell is a guy that we know doesn't like Utah. He is local with reps that leon/www know very well.

Utah was the number one seed but they did get knocked out in the conference semi's so you never know after a sub par year for Utah doors could start to open up.

[robillionaire]

All of those things are out of their control. So, should they just give the championship back to the NBA because of "bad luck"?

The end goal is to put yourself in a position where you can compete. And you never know how the ball bounces. They did it and won and they deserve it.

They also drafted in the teens.



Maybe we should try to build through the draft.

We are. One of our core players was drafted #3. You know, RJ Barrett? And we still have Quickley, Robinson, and even Obi. But you surround your young guys with capable vets - exactly what a team like Milwaukee has done.

And we still have all of our draft picks to fortify our team when the right opportunity presents itself. You're not going to build a title contender overnight. It takes patience.

the 15th pick isn't even a lottery pick, they made the playoffs as the 8th seed in 2013 and still drafted giannis. it flies directly in the face of tanker logic. These guys finished 38-44, got swept in the playoffs as an 8th seeded "treadmill team", and drafted giannis. And even then it took 7 years of team building (or what perpetual tank advocates call "treadmilling") and catching some lightning in a bottle before they won the championship which was mostly done via trading away as many picks as they could to bring in talent, Middleton was the 39th pick in 2012

[robillionaire]

I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

whenever he gets fed up and demands a trade is when to strike

as it stands they were the #1 seed in the west so idk how bad he wants out yet. other than that he just signed an extension and is not a free agent until 2025 or 2026 so I'm not holding my breath on free agency

the knicks offseason showed they have no interest in getting there future star via FA. They basically have admitted they know they need to trade for that player. Who knows when Beal/Lillard decide to wake up in reality. Mitchell is a guy that we know doesn't like Utah. He is local with reps that leon/www know very well.

Utah was the number one seed but they did get knocked out in the conference semi's so you never know after a sub par year for Utah doors could start to open up.

I agree actually, he looked really really disgruntled about that 2nd round exit. It's worth keeping an eye on going forward

[mpharris36]

whenever he gets fed up and demands a trade is when to strike

as it stands they were the #1 seed in the west so idk how bad he wants out yet. other than that he just signed an extension and is not a free agent until 2025 or 2026 so I'm not holding my breath on free agency

the knicks offseason showed they have no interest in getting there future star via FA. They basically have admitted they know they need to trade for that player. Who knows when Beal/Lillard decide to wake up in reality. Mitchell is a guy that we know doesn't like Utah. He is local with reps that leon/www know very well.

Utah was the number one seed but they did get knocked out in the conference semi's so you never know after a sub par year for Utah doors could start to open up.

I agree actually, he looked really really disgruntled about that 2nd round exit. It's worth keeping an eye on going forward

you know him and gobert aren't the closest either. Lets get Utah the french connection of Fournier and Gobert!!!

[Marty McFly]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

Fingers crossed we get Zion eventually. play him as a small ball 5, if Randle can sustain that 40% from 3, it could be interesting.