Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

[TrueWarrior]

Towns another foul, his 4th, as soon as he comes back in haha. Another dubious call but again he was being way way too physical with Portis right after the ref told him to chill. He was asking for it is just like Melo does when he gets too up close and handsy. Refs need to let these kids play but Karl playing dumb.

[E-Balla]

Im starting to think Okafor has the right idea by not playing much defense with the way these fouls are called. Kinda hard for Towns to make a 1st pick push if he cant stay on the floor, wack ass calls or not. Okafor would have just let Portis score but hed still be out there.

Towns back in.

Its a 50/50 thing. Jahlil can't afford to foul and he certainly can't be a great interior defender with how often their guards allow people to attack the rim (I know a sports writer that has access to the NCAA synergy stats and he told me Jahlil contests nearly 10 shots a game at the rim. An extraordinary amount) but he can afford to play a little harder on small attacking guards (maybe not wings who will get the call more often).

On the other hand with Towns he can afford to foul as much as he wants. Kentucky can do without him. Actually the team has a better scoring margin per minute without him on the floor than with him on the floor (that largely has to do with how much stronger the Kentucky bench is than other teams).

Now does that mean I don't care about his fouls? No. He should be able to play defense without getting all those dumb fouls he gets and in the NBA teams will attack him if he's foul prone.

[JBreezeNY]

Karlito is bacccccckkkkkkkkkkk

[Retired_Doc]

Im starting to think Okafor has the right idea by not playing much defense with the way these fouls are called. Kinda hard for Towns to make a 1st pick push if he cant stay on the floor, wack ass calls or not. Okafor would have just let Portis score but hed still be out there.

Towns back in.

Its a 50/50 thing. Jahlil can't afford to foul and he certainly can't be a great interior defender with how often their guards allow people to attack the rim (I know a sports writer that has access to the NCAA synergy stats and he told me Jahlil contests nearly 10 shots a game at the rim. An extraordinary amount) but he can afford to play a little harder on small attacking guards (maybe not wings who will get the call more often).

On the other hand with Towns he can afford to foul as much as he wants. Kentucky can do without him. Actually the team has a better scoring margin per minute without him on the floor than with him on the floor (that largely has to do with how much stronger the Kentucky bench is than other teams).

Now does that mean I don't care about his fouls? No. He should be able to play defense without getting all those dumb fouls he gets and in the NBA teams will attack him if he's foul prone.

I'm not happy at all with KAT's propensity to foul. Not good.

[djphan]

Its a 50/50 thing. Jahlil can't afford to foul and he certainly can't be a great interior defender with how often their guards allow people to attack the rim (I know a sports writer that has access to the NCAA synergy stats and he told me Jahlil contests nearly 10 shots a game at the rim. An extraordinary amount) but he can afford to play a little harder on small attacking guards (maybe not wings who will get the call more often).

Or they attack the rim because they know he is going to contest weakly.... once you establish yourself as a shotblocker.. ppl don't come into the paint as much against you...

[islanders11040]

Towns has played well since he came back in the game. Gotta be smarter with fouls though.

[TrueWarrior]

See Towns is playing much more conservative now with 4 fouls, yet hes still playing D. Just blocked a shot and drew a charge. Thats all he has to do. Cant be so demonstrative with his physicality and make unnecessary contact because that gets the refs attention.

And with that said he gets taken out. Thats prob it for the game. Tournament time.

Stein has been great lately.

[JBreezeNY]

See Towns is playing much more conservative now with 4 fouls, yet hes still playing D. Just blocked a shot and drew a charge. Thats all he has to do. Cant be so demonstrative with his physicality and make unnecessary contact because that gets the refs attention.

And the great thing about that, is it's EASILY teachable in the NBA.

A guy that already shows great defensive awareness & instincts but his main problem is unnecessary contact? Big man coaches in the NBA are probably salivating at the thought of teaching Karl how to be better at controlling his fouls.

[Retired_Doc]

Soooo Knick fans what happens if PJax gets the first pick, passes on OK4, KAT, Russell and Mudiay and picks WCS?

I frankly wouldn't be disappointed at all.

[TrueWarrior]

See Towns is playing much more conservative now with 4 fouls, yet hes still playing D. Just blocked a shot and drew a charge. Thats all he has to do. Cant be so demonstrative with his physicality and make unnecessary contact because that gets the refs attention.

And the great thing about that, is it's EASILY teachable in the NBA.

A guy that already shows great defensive awareness & instincts but his main problem is unnecessary contact? Big man coaches in the NBA are probably salivating at the thought of teaching Karl how to be better at controlling his fouls.

Exactly why Im not worried about it long term at all. Its just annoying now because I want to see the guy play .

[Retired_Doc]

Heeeeeeeeeere comes WCS! viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1378077#start_here

[E-Balla]

Its a 50/50 thing. Jahlil can't afford to foul and he certainly can't be a great interior defender with how often their guards allow people to attack the rim (I know a sports writer that has access to the NCAA synergy stats and he told me Jahlil contests nearly 10 shots a game at the rim. An extraordinary amount) but he can afford to play a little harder on small attacking guards (maybe not wings who will get the call more often).

Or they attack the rim because they know he is going to contest weakly.... once you establish yourself as a shotblocker.. ppl don't come into the paint as much against you...

Ohhh my god get off his dick, learn the game of basketball, or stop having an opinion on him completely if you can't be objective. Your stupidity is getting annoying. At least god4gives was funny.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I wouldn't like that at all.
The perception of who Okafor/Towns can become would suggest you snag either if available and move them for a package of assets if you see Stein as your target. Stein would likely be drafted no earlier than number five overall.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I really hope that Towns low numbers are only a result of him playing for Kentucky...the Knicks HAVE to get this right.

[E-Balla]

If he wasn't fired by the end of the night or on the spot I'd completely stop watching the Knicks until he was fired.

[Retired_Doc]

I wouldn't like that at all.
The perception of who Okafor/Towns can become would suggest you snag either if available and move them for a package of assets if you see Stein as your target. Stein would likely be drafted no earlier than number five overall.

Well that's not a bad way to do it as long as we end up with WCS who I sense is an NBA "game-changer." Much better than Tyson at his best.

[Dantares]

I wouldnt be happy but i would trust phil's judgement. And hopefully we would trade calderon for cap space to get two max. In example trade the number 2 pick and calderon for the number 5 pick and draft stein.

[djphan]

how am i the one not being objective? it's a freaking layup line every game against duke and you guys can't stop making excuses for him... could it possibly be because of him?

oh the the 10 shots at the rim... that's cause of hte duke guards who can't create a forcefield at the paint for okafor... and it's ME who's on his dick?

get over yourself.. you don't know ****...

[E-Balla]

I really hope that Towns low numbers are only a result of him playing for Kentucky...the Knicks HAVE to get this right.

I hate when people talk about his low numbers. His per minute numbers are amazing. Now the hard part is finding out how much of that per minute greatness is due to the team around him being so strong and how much of it is him.

[Retired_Doc]

If he wasn't fired by the end of the night or on the spot I'd completely stop watching the Knicks until he was fired.

Well then what about Blackfeet's idea? Grab OK4, trade down for assets including WCS? Would PJax still be fired?