[Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread Part II -*SPEED ROUNDS*

[Mecca]

Speights - Uptempo
Rubio - Uptempo
K-Mart - Would excel in uptempo but can play in any system.
Granger - Any system
Yao - Half Court
Beasley - at PF you're playing uptempo-small ball, and at SF, he's more of an iso/halfcourt player.

Also, most of your scoring is coming from your perimeter players, and that would indicate more of a fast-paced system as well.

And, Rubio is an uptempo PG... PG's dictate the tempo, and yours was made for the fast-paced system.

Playoff time = winning time, and in those times when the game slows down and you need to grind it out, a halfcourt bigman like Yao is essential. Speights can run the floor but he also can play in the halfcourt pick and roll (pop) game as he is a finisher and also able to knock down the 15-footer for the most part. KMart like you said, can play in any system as well as Granger. They are shooters who will stretch the floor in the halfcourt but they can both get out and run opportunistically. Beasley as you detailed above, is too able to play both styles depending on matchups. So essentially you have just answered your own confusion and agreed with me that my team is VERSATILE capable of playing well in both elements.

Our only area of disagreement comes with Rubio. The misconception is that since he's a flashy passer that he can only play uptempo. Do you realize in the Euroleague teams run halfcourt motion offense sets? They are not running and gunning full-time. Rubio plays in a pick and roll system overseas and if you watch his full-game footage you will see him operate in those sets (don't only rely on the highlight videos). He is a master at getting his man caught in the screen, getting in the lane and when the defense converges he has the court-vision to find the open man be it a dump-off in the paint or kicking out to a shooter. The only area Rubio suffers in the halfcourt game is as a shooter, I admit. But so does Rondo and he is an all-star.


Really the only player on my team who cannot play equally well in the transition/halfcourt game is Yao. And even then if some of you argue that he will be injured and not to be relied on then you help my cause in the judging by calling me a fast-break team cuz if Yao is judged inactive then Beasley is the starting PF and Speights is the starting C and you must made my team the Phoenix Suns (a perenial contender).

Well hate to break it to you, but 99.99% of the people on this board are basing their thoughts on a few youtube videos.... That comes along with drafting Rubio, and in those systems, he hasn't excelled, probably because of the system that he's in.

People aren't going to think of Yao as the All-NBA Center that was once a dominate force... they're looking at the 7'5 Center that has missed the last season 1/2 and has glass knees, and has considered retirement. It's a risk.

Putting Beasley/Speights as your starting front court doesn't put your teams talent anywhere near the Suns.

You drafted 2 risky value picks in Rubio/Yao.... you have to realize that it's going to have to come with risks and faults...

Now... on to my team. (Arenas is my 6th man.)

[moocow007]

Mareese Speights (taken a few guys after you) is a talented player and might be considered a "stretch 4" but his shot is inconsistent as is his game. It's a great fit for 2010's team (since his is more centered around potential guys in a more uptempo style) but not really for yours.

Thing is, I don't consider Marreese Speights a "stretch four" at all. To me he is a new-age athletic/banger hybrid. In my definition, a "stretch four" is a PF who stretches the defense by possessing the ability to knock down jumpers beyond the range of any traditional PF (18ft and beyond the 3pt line). The PF I keep mentioning has range extending out the the 3pt line and can consistently knock down that shot while being a true PF where comparably Frye is more of a center. Frye doesn't possess the athleticism in my eyes to qualify as a starting caliber PF. But back to Speights if you read my writeup when I made the selection, he was picked because he stay in "shallow waters" on offense.

Oh I didn't mean to imply the Speights wasn't a nice pick for you, he was. Just using him as an example of a guy that some people might consider as a stretch 4 (he does love taking 18-20 footers way too much) and not really being one (so we do agree).

[2010]

Speights, a black-hole...really? A guy who doesn't have a legit post-up game nor any type of iso game qualifying as a black-hole...really? K-Mart, of course he gets is shots...he's the best shooter on his team. Allan Houston got his shots but was he an unselfish player or a black-hole? So should guys who are talented at scoring not shoot the ball? Should GM's not acquire any more than 3 scorers on any given team? You sir are showing you know nothing about basketball or the construction of a team. Every contending team needs at least 3-4 main scoring options and a person to efficiently deliver them the ball. Obviously Rubio is my facilitator and Granger, Martin, Yao re my 3 main scoring options in the starting lineup. Speights will get his opportunistically playing off the other four and the attention they draw. Beasley is my instant offense as the 6th man off the bench. What part of this indicates that there aren't enough shots to go around?

Lastly, I clearly asked for the opinions of the boards experts (Moocow, TKF, TheBluest, MagnumT, ctorres, can of peas, etc.)...you clearly show you do not belong in this conversation. Get your analysis game up!

Haha. All you had to do is google Mareese Speights black hole. Here are you results

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 38d735b227

Its common knowledge that the guy is a black hole. You give him the ball and he doesn't give back. Then you tried to call me out on my basketball knowledge, yet you drafted a player you knew nothing about. Haha. Do you. I'm sorry for giving my opinion on your team. You should probably know that in Build A Team 3.0 I had one of the highest rated teams and many people in this thing praised the team I had because of how I managed cap space and put together players that compliment each other. My mistake was I didn't take the coach into consideration and it backfired. Just remember that you got mad earlier in this because people were praising my pick and questioning your team.

What exactly is that google link supposed to be proving. It means nothing! Ben Wallace played way more minutes per game across the span of his career than Speights and he averaged equal or fewer assists more ofthen than not when compared to Speights. Does that make Big Ben a black hole? No! They are PF/C's who work off the ball and when they do get it in a position to score (dump-offs, putbacks, etc) the shot is going up and rightfully so! Only difference is that Speights can also add the midrange J to his arsenal where Wallace didn't have that element. You are actually trying to sit here a make a case that me drafting Marreese Speights has made my team not have enough balls to go around, LOL!

Like I said, 3 main options to score (Granger/KMart/Yao)....one guy to facilitate (Rubio), one guy to compliment those four by playing off the attention they receive (Speights) and one elite instant offense guy off the bench as 6th man (Beasley). All young players with no one over 30 years old and a flexibile salary cap. That's how you build a core! I'll take my roster over yours anyday.

And back to that pick debate, if you honestly don't think Rubio is a better prospect at a more important position than Wesley Johnson then that clearly underscores your lack of basketball IQ and team building intelligence.

[2010]

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Kevin Martin
SF: Danny Granger | Michael Beasley
PF: Marreese Speights | Michael Beasley
C: Yao Ming

Can I get a detailed analysis of my team from one of the experts?

2010 I'll provide one later on maybe around the time I make my next pick. So look out for it if you want.

OK cool, look forward to seeing your analysis!

[Subway Token]

Speights, a black-hole...really? A guy who doesn't have a legit post-up game nor any type of iso game qualifying as a black-hole...really? K-Mart, of course he gets is shots...he's the best shooter on his team. Allan Houston got his shots but was he an unselfish player or a black-hole? So should guys who are talented at scoring not shoot the ball? Should GM's not acquire any more than 3 scorers on any given team? You sir are showing you know nothing about basketball or the construction of a team. Every contending team needs at least 3-4 main scoring options and a person to efficiently deliver them the ball. Obviously Rubio is my facilitator and Granger, Martin, Yao re my 3 main scoring options in the starting lineup. Speights will get his opportunistically playing off the other four and the attention they draw. Beasley is my instant offense as the 6th man off the bench. What part of this indicates that there aren't enough shots to go around?

Lastly, I clearly asked for the opinions of the boards experts (Moocow, TKF, TheBluest, MagnumT, ctorres, can of peas, etc.)...you clearly show you do not belong in this conversation. Get your analysis game up!

Haha. All you had to do is google Mareese Speights black hole. Here are you results

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 38d735b227

Its common knowledge that the guy is a black hole. You give him the ball and he doesn't give back. Then you tried to call me out on my basketball knowledge, yet you drafted a player you knew nothing about. Haha. Do you. I'm sorry for giving my opinion on your team. You should probably know that in Build A Team 3.0 I had one of the highest rated teams and many people in this thing praised the team I had because of how I managed cap space and put together players that compliment each other. My mistake was I didn't take the coach into consideration and it backfired. Just remember that you got mad earlier in this because people were praising my pick and questioning your team.

What exactly is that google link supposed to be proving. It means nothing! Ben Wallace played way more minutes per game across the span of his career than Speights and he averaged equal or fewer assists more ofthen than not when compared to Speights. Does that make Big Ben a black hole? No! They are PF/C's who work off the ball and when they do get it in a position to score (dump-offs, putbacks, etc) the shot is going up and rightfully so! Only difference is that Speights can also add the midrange J to his arsenal where Wallace didn't have that element. You are actually trying to sit here a make a case that me drafting Marreese Speights has made my team not have enough balls to go around, LOL!

Like I said, 3 main options to score (Granger/KMart/Yao)....one guy to facilitate (Rubio), one guy to compliment those four by playing off the attention they receive (Speights) and one elite instant offense guy off the bench as 6th man (Beasley). All young players with no one over 30 years old and a flexibile salary cap. That's how you build a core! I'll take my roster over yours anyday.

And back to that pick debate, if you honestly don't think Rubio is a better prospect at a more important position than Wesley Johnson then that clearly underscores your lack of basketball IQ and team building intelligence.

As of right now, Johnson and Rubio are both ath the same level. That's because neither of them have played with the big boys yet. It's really foolish to bash on a Wes Johnson pick when you picked Rubio. Not because of the value of the pick, but because we have no freaking clue how they'll turn out in the NBA, which is what matters. Quit getting all butt-hurt and defensive when you are the one asking people for their opinion. It's like you need to be assured that you did a good job.

[2010]

Speights - Uptempo
Rubio - Uptempo
K-Mart - Would excel in uptempo but can play in any system.
Granger - Any system
Yao - Half Court
Beasley - at PF you're playing uptempo-small ball, and at SF, he's more of an iso/halfcourt player.

Also, most of your scoring is coming from your perimeter players, and that would indicate more of a fast-paced system as well.

And, Rubio is an uptempo PG... PG's dictate the tempo, and yours was made for the fast-paced system.

Playoff time = winning time, and in those times when the game slows down and you need to grind it out, a halfcourt bigman like Yao is essential. Speights can run the floor but he also can play in the halfcourt pick and roll (pop) game as he is a finisher and also able to knock down the 15-footer for the most part. KMart like you said, can play in any system as well as Granger. They are shooters who will stretch the floor in the halfcourt but they can both get out and run opportunistically. Beasley as you detailed above, is too able to play both styles depending on matchups. So essentially you have just answered your own confusion and agreed with me that my team is VERSATILE capable of playing well in both elements.

Our only area of disagreement comes with Rubio. The misconception is that since he's a flashy passer that he can only play uptempo. Do you realize in the Euroleague teams run halfcourt motion offense sets? They are not running and gunning full-time. Rubio plays in a pick and roll system overseas and if you watch his full-game footage you will see him operate in those sets (don't only rely on the highlight videos). He is a master at getting his man caught in the screen, getting in the lane and when the defense converges he has the court-vision to find the open man be it a dump-off in the paint or kicking out to a shooter. The only area Rubio suffers in the halfcourt game is as a shooter, I admit. But so does Rondo and he is an all-star.


Really the only player on my team who cannot play equally well in the transition/halfcourt game is Yao. And even then if some of you argue that he will be injured and not to be relied on then you help my cause in the judging by calling me a fast-break team cuz if Yao is judged inactive then Beasley is the starting PF and Speights is the starting C and you must made my team the Phoenix Suns (a perenial contender).

Well hate to break it to you, but 99.99% of the people on this board are basing their thoughts on a few youtube videos.... That comes along with drafting Rubio, and in those systems, he hasn't excelled, probably because of the system that he's in.

People aren't going to think of Yao as the All-NBA Center that was once a dominate force... they're looking at the 7'5 Center that has missed the last season 1/2 and has glass knees, and has considered retirement. It's a risk.

Putting Beasley/Speights as your starting front court doesn't put your teams talent anywhere near the Suns.

You drafted 2 risky value picks in Rubio/Yao.... you have to realize that it's going to have to come with risks and faults...

Now... on to my team. (Arenas is my 6th man.)

Hey, I can play that game too. "Arenas will destory your team chemistry. This guy threatened to shoot his teammate for Christs' sakes! The guy has arguably the worst contract in the league and he is still fresh off two major knee surgeries. To top it all off, he has a big mouth and blogs too much the the mind of an immature ADD diagnosed oaf."

[swisscheeseD]

Do we really have to wait another 4 hours for Knicks1214 to make his selection, or does he get auto-skipped since he hasn't been here for the 6hrs prior?

1. Please use Discussion thread.
2. Yes, have to wait.
3. How many times has he been skipped? If this potentially is his 3rd then he'd be looking at being replaced.

We have a rule that says if you are picking back-to-back you only have the allotted time for 1 pick's expiration...but the guy who gets skipped already and his pick 2 picks later gets the additional allotment?

This should be another rule for 5.0...If you have been skipped already, and another one of your picks are on the clock, you are automatically skipped again.

[2010]

Mareese Speights (taken a few guys after you) is a talented player and might be considered a "stretch 4" but his shot is inconsistent as is his game. It's a great fit for 2010's team (since his is more centered around potential guys in a more uptempo style) but not really for yours.

Thing is, I don't consider Marreese Speights a "stretch four" at all. To me he is a new-age athletic/banger hybrid. In my definition, a "stretch four" is a PF who stretches the defense by possessing the ability to knock down jumpers beyond the range of any traditional PF (18ft and beyond the 3pt line). The PF I keep mentioning has range extending out the the 3pt line and can consistently knock down that shot while being a true PF where comparably Frye is more of a center. Frye doesn't possess the athleticism in my eyes to qualify as a starting caliber PF. But back to Speights if you read my writeup when I made the selection, he was picked because he stay in "shallow waters" on offense.

Oh I didn't mean to imply the Speights wasn't a nice pick for you, he was. Just using him as an example of a guy that some people might consider as a stretch 4 (he does love taking 18-20 footers way too much) and not really being one (so we do agree).

No problem. I'm actually looking forward to your breakdown of my entire team, as opposed to solely Speights.

[Subway Token]

"As of right now, Johnson and Rubio are both ath the same level. That's because neither of them have played with the big boys yet. It's really foolish to bash on a Wes Johnson pick when you picked Rubio. Not because of the value of the pick, but because we have no freaking clue how they'll turn out in the NBA, which is what matters. Quit getting all butt-hurt and defensive when you are the one asking people for their opinion. It's like you need to be assured that you did a good job."

That's directed at 2010, for the new page.

[Justdatdude]

Speights, a black-hole...really? A guy who doesn't have a legit post-up game nor any type of iso game qualifying as a black-hole...really? K-Mart, of course he gets is shots...he's the best shooter on his team. Allan Houston got his shots but was he an unselfish player or a black-hole? So should guys who are talented at scoring not shoot the ball? Should GM's not acquire any more than 3 scorers on any given team? You sir are showing you know nothing about basketball or the construction of a team. Every contending team needs at least 3-4 main scoring options and a person to efficiently deliver them the ball. Obviously Rubio is my facilitator and Granger, Martin, Yao re my 3 main scoring options in the starting lineup. Speights will get his opportunistically playing off the other four and the attention they draw. Beasley is my instant offense as the 6th man off the bench. What part of this indicates that there aren't enough shots to go around?

Lastly, I clearly asked for the opinions of the boards experts (Moocow, TKF, TheBluest, MagnumT, ctorres, can of peas, etc.)...you clearly show you do not belong in this conversation. Get your analysis game up!

Haha. All you had to do is google Mareese Speights black hole. Here are you results

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 38d735b227

Its common knowledge that the guy is a black hole. You give him the ball and he doesn't give back. Then you tried to call me out on my basketball knowledge, yet you drafted a player you knew nothing about. Haha. Do you. I'm sorry for giving my opinion on your team. You should probably know that in Build A Team 3.0 I had one of the highest rated teams and many people in this thing praised the team I had because of how I managed cap space and put together players that compliment each other. My mistake was I didn't take the coach into consideration and it backfired. Just remember that you got mad earlier in this because people were praising my pick and questioning your team.

What exactly is that google link supposed to be proving. It means nothing! Ben Wallace played way more minutes per game across the span of his career than Speights and he averaged equal or fewer assists more ofthen than not when compared to Speights. Does that make Big Ben a black hole? No! They are PF/C's who work off the ball and when they do get it in a position to score (dump-offs, putbacks, etc) the shot is going up and rightfully so! Only difference is that Speights can also add the midrange J to his arsenal where Wallace didn't have that element. You are actually trying to sit here a make a case that me drafting Marreese Speights has made my team not have enough balls to go around, LOL!

Like I said, 3 main options to score (Granger/KMart/Yao)....one guy to facilitate (Rubio), one guy to compliment those four by playing off the attention they receive (Speights) and one elite instant offense guy off the bench as 6th man (Beasley). All young players with no one over 30 years old and a flexibile salary cap. That's how you build a core! I'll take my roster over yours anyday.

And back to that pick debate, if you honestly don't think Rubio is a better prospect at a more important position than Wesley Johnson then that clearly underscores your lack of basketball IQ and team building intelligence.

Now you think being called a black hole has something to do with assist? Haha. You really tried to call me out and this is your response to what I said? And no one said Wes is a better prospect than Rubio. Difference is what Wes is good at and what I drafted him for is something that translates from college to the NBA. Athelticism, shooting, and hustle. That is what I need from him on this team and that is something everyone knows he will bring. He isn't being asked to play a huge role on this team. Rubio being picked to play point guard is a huge role, especially considering we haven't seen him run a team. You're having a hard time understanding simple things.

[I am Ra]

What do you guys think of my roster?

Jrue Holiday
Tyreke Evans
DeMarr DeRozan
Paul Millsap
DeMarcus Cousins

[I am Ra]

Also Im interested in trading Tyreke Evans for a Bogut type value big man and picks.

Hit me up with offers at knicksgiantsfan@yahoo.com

[2010]

"As of right now, Johnson and Rubio are both ath the same level. That's because neither of them have played with the big boys yet. It's really foolish to bash on a Wes Johnson pick when you picked Rubio. Not because of the value of the pick, but because we have no freaking clue how they'll turn out in the NBA, which is what matters. Quit getting all butt-hurt and defensive when you are the one asking people for their opinion. It's like you need to be assured that you did a good job."

That's directed at 2010, for the new page.

Let me explain this to you again young buck as simple as I can. Has Wesley Johnson been a pro since the age of 14 playing against grown men and getting paid to do so? Has Wesley Jonhnson competed against the very best his league, country, continent and the world/NBA has to offer? (Euroleague, Spain, Europe, Olympics). How many games has W. Johnson played as a professional? How many games has Rubio played as a professional? How easy is it to find an impact player at W. Johnson's position? How hard is it to find an impact player at Rubio's position? (we should know as Knicks fans how easy it is to find swingmen vs PGs).

For the record, I didn't ask "people" for their opinion. I asked the "experts" of this board for theirs. A 16 year old working as an intern for his mommy as a handout who lied that they were going thru some crisis to dump their team only to "join forces" with their butt-buddy peer does not qualify as an expert on BAT matters. An expert wouldn't have traded Allen (3rd)/Mayo for a 10th/Evans due to getting his feelings hurt and insecure after Mags criticized the Allen pick! You bailed on your team after you phucced it up. You have lost your rights to give an opinion. Sorry...

[Subway Token]

What do you guys think of my roster?

Jrue Holiday
Tyreke Evans
DeMarr DeRozan
Paul Millsap
DeMarcus Cousins

You pretty much completed my vision of the squad. They grow so fast!

No but really, good job. It ain't easy finishing what someone else starts, mad props.

[moocow007]

Do we really have to wait another 4 hours for Knicks1214 to make his selection, or does he get auto-skipped since he hasn't been here for the 6hrs prior?

1. Please use Discussion thread.
2. Yes, have to wait.
3. How many times has he been skipped? If this potentially is his 3rd then he'd be looking at being replaced.

We have a rule that says if you are picking back-to-back you only have the allotted time for 1 pick's expiration...but the guy who gets skipped already and his pick 2 picks later gets the additional allotment?

This should be another rule for 5.0...If you have been skipped already, and another one of your picks are on the clock, you are automatically skipped again.

That's fine as a proposed rule for 5.0 but when do you stop. What if the guy with the last/first pick takes the full 6 hours? Do you expect the guy with the 2nd from last/first to sit there the whole time waiting? And why would you limit it to the 2nd from top/bottom guy and not the 3rd from last guy (especially if the 2nd from last/first and the last/first guy both are notorious online all the time quick pickers)? It's getting to be subjective.

I know you want to push this along and guys take forever, I do too. But have to be somewhat reasonable with this. Not everyone can be online nearly all the time or access this at almost any time of the day. Sure they can IM their picks to mods but thats not always practical either (you can have a 12 hour swing between just 2 picks) and most people would like to make their own picks.

The 3 skips and your out rule is fine enough. But just because a guy doesn't pick quickly enough within the time he's given doesn't mean he should be nudged out. If you give someone 6 hours then it's kinda hard to argue that he needs to pick within 20-30 minutes after his pick is up. OBVIOUSLY some guys are consistently not being able to make the pick and those are the guys that get replaced. But going too far here IMHO.

[2010]

Now you think being called a black hole has something to do with assist? Haha. You really tried to call me out and this is your response to what I said? And no one said Wes is a better prospect than Rubio. Difference is what Wes is good at and what I drafted him for is something that translates from college to the NBA. Athelticism, shooting, and hustle. That is what I need from him on this team and that is something everyone knows he will bring. He isn't being asked to play a huge role on this team. Rubio being picked to play point guard is a huge role, especially considering we haven't seen him run a team. You're having a hard time understanding simple things.

Rubio has been playing PG, running professional teams offenses since he was Knicksfan5494 and xKLNx Phenom age. Think about that for a sec and then contemplate who's "having a hard time understanding simple things."

[I am Ra]

What do you guys think of my roster?

Jrue Holiday
Tyreke Evans
DeMarr DeRozan
Paul Millsap
DeMarcus Cousins

You pretty much completed my vision of the squad. They grow so fast!

No but really, good job. It ain't easy finishing what someone else starts, mad props.

Yeah, I got to say, it was a pretty tough position in the beginning because I dont love going young that fast in the draft and I was contemplating going for vets but I think I did a good job of getting young, long, defensive talent that meshes. Also I got three picks in the 6th round. I can get more of that talent. Props to you for getting me in this position also.

[Subway Token]

Let me explain this to you again young buck as simple as I can. Has Wesley Johnson been a pro since the age of 14 playing against grown men and getting paid to do so? Has Wesley Jonhnson competed against the very best his league, country, continent and the world/NBA has to offer? (Euroleague, Spain, Europe, Olympics). How many games has W. Johnson played as a professional? How many games has Rubio played as a professional? How easy is it to find an impact player at W. Johnson's position? How hard is it to find an impact player at Rubio's position? (we should know as Knicks fans how easy it is to find swingmen vs PGs).

For the record, I didn't ask "people" for their opinion. I asked the "experts" of this board for theirs. A 16 year old working as an intern for his mommy as a handout who lied that they were going thru some crisis to dump their team only to "join forces" with their butt-buddy peer does not qualify as an expert on BAT matters. An expert wouldn't have traded Allen (3rd)/Mayo for a 10th/Evans due to getting his feelings hurt and insecure after Mags criticized the Allen pick! You bailed on your team after you phucced it up. You have lost your rights to give an opinion. Sorry...

I'm so glad you care so much about my personal life! I didn't fake a crisis. It wasn't even a crisis. I had some things going on in my family and I thought I'd be moving out and I didn't want to hold it up. I mean, if you care so much I might as well give you the inside scoop.

I did infact trade Ray Allen b/c he was criticized. But the thing is, the participants are the judges. You gotta please the people who give you criticism, that's how you win this thing. Funny.. I'm getting called insecure while you need assurance from others that you did a good job on a forum game. EVERYBODY is saying the same things, and yet you still argue.

Play the age card all you want. I may be 16, but I'm sure as hell acting more mature than you.

[Jstarks3]

"As of right now, Johnson and Rubio are both ath the same level. That's because neither of them have played with the big boys yet. It's really foolish to bash on a Wes Johnson pick when you picked Rubio. Not because of the value of the pick, but because we have no freaking clue how they'll turn out in the NBA, which is what matters. Quit getting all butt-hurt and defensive when you are the one asking people for their opinion. It's like you need to be assured that you did a good job."

That's directed at 2010, for the new page.

QFT.

[Mecca]

Playoff time = winning time, and in those times when the game slows down and you need to grind it out, a halfcourt bigman like Yao is essential. Speights can run the floor but he also can play in the halfcourt pick and roll (pop) game as he is a finisher and also able to knock down the 15-footer for the most part. KMart like you said, can play in any system as well as Granger. They are shooters who will stretch the floor in the halfcourt but they can both get out and run opportunistically. Beasley as you detailed above, is too able to play both styles depending on matchups. So essentially you have just answered your own confusion and agreed with me that my team is VERSATILE capable of playing well in both elements.

Our only area of disagreement comes with Rubio. The misconception is that since he's a flashy passer that he can only play uptempo. Do you realize in the Euroleague teams run halfcourt motion offense sets? They are not running and gunning full-time. Rubio plays in a pick and roll system overseas and if you watch his full-game footage you will see him operate in those sets (don't only rely on the highlight videos). He is a master at getting his man caught in the screen, getting in the lane and when the defense converges he has the court-vision to find the open man be it a dump-off in the paint or kicking out to a shooter. The only area Rubio suffers in the halfcourt game is as a shooter, I admit. But so does Rondo and he is an all-star.


Really the only player on my team who cannot play equally well in the transition/halfcourt game is Yao. And even then if some of you argue that he will be injured and not to be relied on then you help my cause in the judging by calling me a fast-break team cuz if Yao is judged inactive then Beasley is the starting PF and Speights is the starting C and you must made my team the Phoenix Suns (a perenial contender).

Well hate to break it to you, but 99.99% of the people on this board are basing their thoughts on a few youtube videos.... That comes along with drafting Rubio, and in those systems, he hasn't excelled, probably because of the system that he's in.

People aren't going to think of Yao as the All-NBA Center that was once a dominate force... they're looking at the 7'5 Center that has missed the last season 1/2 and has glass knees, and has considered retirement. It's a risk.

Putting Beasley/Speights as your starting front court doesn't put your teams talent anywhere near the Suns.

You drafted 2 risky value picks in Rubio/Yao.... you have to realize that it's going to have to come with risks and faults...

Now... on to my team. (Arenas is my 6th man.)

Hey, I can play that game too. "Arenas will destory your team chemistry. This guy threatened to shoot his teammate for Christs' sakes! The guy has arguably the worst contract in the league and he is still fresh off two major knee surgeries. To top it all off, he has a big mouth and blogs too much the the mind of an immature ADD diagnosed oaf."

It seems like you really can't take criticism very well if at all... simmer down. If you're going to ask for constructive criticism, you're going to get it. What did you expect?