[Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4

[Dr. Detfink]

Do the Knicks really need an upgrade at SF? Sure, getting Melo would be great but does need overshadow needs at PG and possibly at Center?

[god shammgod]

Do the Knicks really need an upgrade at SF? Sure, getting Melo would be great but does need overshadow needs at PG and possibly at Center?

who's available at those positions this summer ?

[bornaknick1]

You guys are pretty shortsighted. Gallo and Carmelo are not on the same level by any means, and this is from someone who's delighted by Gallo's progress. Carmelo has the most complete offensive game in this league, and thats a very limited list that can likely only include Kobe and Durant. I think Camelos more complete than Durant as well. BTW Carmelo's past week still blows Gallo's week out of the water. Even when you do age by age comparisons Carmelo has always been the better player with the higher ceiling. It would be great to keep Gallo till the summer and sign Melo. If they are redudant offensively Gallo can get us quality return on the positions where we would need help particularly at the 5. Having so much talent is a good thing and opens up our options. Look at it as an Al Jefferson for KG situation. Al is a very talented player who can do a whole lot offensively but he's no damn KG.

[Fury]

You know what would be even better? To keep Gallo and let 'Melo come cause the way he hasn't signed that extension shows that he's fine with walking.

[ry3303]

i'd rather get nash personally......

melo would take touches away from amare if anything...

[Dr. Detfink]

Do the Knicks really need an upgrade at SF? Sure, getting Melo would be great but does need overshadow needs at PG and possibly at Center?

who's available at those positions this summer ?

I think the Knicks should take another look at the Paul/Okafor trade without bankrupting themselves of talent of course. Even if taking that trade means no Melo...Okafor compliments Stat and Paul can make anyone look like a top team (see Hornets record).

[K_ick_God]

Do the Knicks really need an upgrade at SF? Sure, getting Melo would be great but does need overshadow needs at PG and possibly at Center?

who's available at those positions this summer ?

I think the Knicks should take another look at the Paul/Okafor trade without bankrupting themselves of talent of course. Even if taking that trade means no Melo...Okafor compliments Stat and Paul can make anyone look like a top team (see Hornets record).

I don't think they'll deal Paul now no matter what.

I think Fields will be a major sticking point in a deal for Melo. Tough call but on talent, obviously you don't hesitate. Similar situation with Gallo.

[Dr. Detfink]

Well, that's obvious especially with the Hornet's fast start. A lot can happen inbetween the time of Melo and Paul's FA. As the Knicks youth matures, their value increases...

Up until Lebron's signing, there wasn't any talk of Melo wanting to come to the Knicks. Now, it's all the talk. So again, lot can change regarding CP3. Will it happen in 2010, of course not. But the future is not set.

Still, there's no getting around the Knicks need an upgrade at PG and Center (with the current roster) before they need another SF. You can live with Gallo/Wil/AR/etc... You can't live forever on Turiaf especially since he plays so hard and gets banged up. Knicks need a rebounder cause it's apparent after getting outrebounded to the point, it's becoming a habit.

Felton is a good stop gap but his passing doesn't really get others involved as much as the 4th pass around the arc.

[CHARLYMURPHY]

Does anyone think we should get a C too?

If things go as planned i think the starters for next year are

PG- Felton
SG- Fields
SF- Carmelo
PF- Amar'e
C- ? Maybe Mozgoz or Turiaf?

[K_ick_God]

Does anyone think we should get a C too?

If things go as planned i think the starters for next year are

PG- Felton
SG- Fields
SF- Carmelo
PF- Amar'e
C- ? Maybe Mozgoz or Turiaf?

Knicks may need to trade Turiaf in order to open up enough room. Another reason that trading for him might be preferable. Can avoid salary dump. We're a bit thin already.

[Dr. Detfink]

Does anyone think we should get a C too?

Yes, because even with Turiaf the Knicks get outrebounded. Now, I don't think the Knicks should break the bank or trade every thing for a center but they definitely need to upgrade that area by roster or play.

The truth is, in the playoffs, the whistle sometimes sticks in the pocket and you need that clutch rebound at the end of the 4th. Tonight was a warning sign. What IF Amare didn't get that key block? Or Felton that strip and pass out that put Gallo on the line?

[K_ick_God]

One problem is that if we did a deal for Melo it would be 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1. We are quite thin as it is -- so it could make depth a real problem. Azubuike coming back helps a lot. Mozgov will earn more minutes as the season goes on.

But stripping down the roster for Melo could lead to Heat Part Deux. We should be careful.

AR is someone I'd deal right now though.

[AllanHoustonFan]

One problem is that if we did a deal for Melo it would be 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1. We are quite thin as it is -- so it could make depth a real problem. Azubuike coming back helps a lot. Mozgov will earn more minutes as the season goes on.

But stripping down the roster for Melo could lead to Heat Part Deux. We should be careful.

AR is someone I'd deal right now though.

Melo already said he won't go to a gutted roster so don't worry about us being a Heat Part Deux.

[Pharmcat]

signing melo as a FA means,depending where the cap is, WC and AZU renounced, and prolly turiaf would have to be traded

so you will lose depth either way

[GONYK]

signing melo as a FA means,depending where the cap is, WC and AZU renounced, and prolly turiaf would have to be traded

so you will lose depth either way

True, but that is hardly a gutted roster

[Pharmcat]

signing melo as a FA means,depending where the cap is, WC and AZU renounced, and prolly turiaf would have to be traded

so you will lose depth either way

True, but that is hardly a gutted roster

it wont be gutted, but it depends on who you can get at the vet min level

the concern is what it will take to trade turiaf, more picks?

[magnumt]

One problem is that if we did a deal for Melo it would be 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1. We are quite thin as it is -- so it could make depth a real problem. Azubuike coming back helps a lot. Mozgov will earn more minutes as the season goes on.

But stripping down the roster for Melo could lead to Heat Part Deux. We should be careful.

AR is someone I'd deal right now though.

With Melo, Amar'e, Felton, and either Chandler or Gallo in the fold you role with 5 more guys (Turiaf, Buke or Fields, Mozgov, and whoever is left). Since we only really play 8-9 guys anyway.

The rest can be added for Vet Minimums. Guys like Stackhouse, or other Plaeyers who are waived after the Trade Deadline.

--Mags

[Future Soldier]

signing melo as a FA means,depending where the cap is, WC and AZU renounced, and prolly turiaf would have to be traded

so you will lose depth either way

that's assuming Melo takes a full max deal.....you never know what he may sign for, considering the big picture is to get CP3 into the fold the year after.

[Pharmcat]

the concern is what it will take to trade turiaf, more picks?

is any1 else concerned about this?

[Jay10]

lmao@ you not taking a day off from baiting