[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

[knickstape4ever]

I always thought one of Tatum's talked about strengths coming out of Duke was that he was a versatile defender. I know FOE kept emphasizing his defense all the time

and he was one of the best ISO players coming out in terms of getting his own shot since Melo. People questioned how much upside he had but in terms of immediate impact Tatum was a vastly superior prospect to Knox in almost every facet of the game of basketball.

exactly. I remember watching Tatum at Duke, thinking he was like Melo or Paul Pierce. He could just score at will from just about any spot on the floor and were deadly in isolation. That's not Knox, he may be long and fluid like Tatum but Knox mostly scored as a spot up shooter or in transition

[HEZI]

When does the actual draft start? I mean the picking and sh*t, not pre-draft talks and BS.

As soon as Luka walks into the building

[newyorker4ever]

Dont overlook the fact that Knox is 6'9 and when growing into his body can play the 4 low key.

tim thomas was 6'9 and he couldn't play the 4...just sayin...

Nuh uh Paul George was 6'9 too, and Knox is 6'9 so Knox is guaranteed to become a good defender, overcome his bad motor, start rebounding and start attacking more! Hater fall back! They said Tatum was a bad defender and couldn't attack! Mo Taylor was 6'9 too and he could play power forward!

It has a lot to do with the NBA team you're drafted by to. Tatum went to a team in the Celtics that have a great young coach that preaches and teaches defense and was surrounded by players that give great effort on defense and play great defense which helped Tatum with his defense.

Sometimes it feels the way people on here talk about these college kids and compare them to certain players that they all the sudden stop growing their games and getting better at whatever they need to get better at which is ridiculous. If K.Knox is determined to work hard on his defense then who's to say he can't become as good as Tatum or PG? These are all young kids who will all get better if they truly want to get better.

[KnickLeDime]

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An absolute fng animal!

[TheGreenArrow]

Really hoping for KP to get paired with Doncic. Luka will unlock KP's potential.

Yep when does 2k19 come out???

#9 + #36 + Ntilikina for Doncic

Dont know if id give up frank..

[DOT]

I always thought Tatum had good awareness when I watched him at Duke

I don't see that at all with Knox

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[Triple C]

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[god shammgod]

oh no, we're back to all knox talk

[KnickLeDime]

oh no, we're back to all knox talk

Better than that scrub Mikal...

[newyorker4ever]

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If we don't want Mikal we should be able to trade down with Philly for a second asset.
I'd do #9 for #10 and #26 or #38 if we don't really want him.

I mean if they want Knox over Mikal, no reason for the Knicks not to leverage their draft position to try and pick up extra picks. Hope Perry/Mills have the foresight to do it. I'm expecting they stand pat at 9 and 36, tho I'd like to see Lee traded (even if just for a 2nd) to free up minutes for Dot

I've said this before but i'll say again that i'm not sold like some are on S.Perry yet cause he hasn't done anything anywhere he's been to tell me he's gonna be able to build this team the right way. If he sits on his hands and doesn't do anything in this draft but make his picks at 9 and 36 then i'm gonna be somewhat disappointed with that, i'm not gonna hate on him especially if he makes good picks but he has money to buy either a late 1st round pick or 2nd round pick, he has guys like C.Lee and a couple other guys that could be traded in this draft and this team is in the position to take on a bad contract up to 2 years to get a draft pick or picks in return. So while i'm not gonna be mad if we make two good picks at 9 and 36, i will feel like he didn't show anything in his first draft that tells me he knows how to build a rebuilding team. Make some moves and don't just sit on your hands.

[Dave DaButcher]

According to Pelton's data, the value of the 9th + the 36th pick is 88% of the value of the 4th pick. Since Chandler's contract has such significant negative value, one would think that would be sufficient value to get a deal done with Memphis (assuming the other pieces to make the trade work are acceptable to both parties), without having to include a future first-rounder (or Frank, of course).

http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2

[knickstape4ever]

oh no, we're back to all knox talk

our hopes of moving up were dashed quickly. I'm willing to bet we stay pat with 9 and 36

[KnickLeDime]

If we don't want Mikal we should be able to trade down with Philly for a second asset.
I'd do #9 for #10 and #26 or #38 if we don't really want him.

I mean if they want Knox over Mikal, no reason for the Knicks not to leverage their draft position to try and pick up extra picks. Hope Perry/Mills have the foresight to do it. I'm expecting they stand pat at 9 and 36, tho I'd like to see Lee traded (even if just for a 2nd) to free up minutes for Dot

I've said this before but i'll say again that i'm not sold like some are on S.Perry yet cause he hasn't done anything anywhere he's been to tell me he's gonna be able to build this team the right way. If he sits on his hands and doesn't do anything in this draft but make his picks at 9 and 36 then i'm gonna be somewhat disappointed with that, i'm not gonna hate on him especially if he makes good picks but he has money to buy either a late 1st round pick or 2nd round pick, he has guys like C.Lee and a couple other guys that could be traded in this draft and this team is in the position to take on a bad contract up to 2 years to get a draft pick or picks. So while i'm not gonna be mad if we make two good picks at 9 and 36, i will feel like he didn't show anything in his first draft that tells me he knows how to build a rebuilding team. Make some moves and don't just sit on your hands.

I'm with you, I'd like to see some aggressiveness in the later parts of the first round or high second.

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[SmoothLefty21]

I think both Mikal and Knox will be good pros. We're in a good spot for a change. Will be happy with either player.

[magnumt]

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Hmmm Interesting....

One thing that's VERY promising about Knox is his stride. That dude covered the ENTIRE court in just a few steps! With Frank's great passing ability, and Porzingis' running, we'd be a VERY fun fastbreak team for the future. We'd be young AF too (Frank = 19, Knox = 19, Porzingis = 23)!

--Mags

[robillionaire]

oh no, we're back to all knox talk

preview of the next year

[god shammgod]

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he's not quick enough to be a 3. he's a 4. but he's the same height as paul george who's quick enough to be a 2. therein lies the problem. that and he'a midrange shooter who is afraid of contact so he tries to rely on floaters near the rim like an undersized guard. people are comparing him to tobias harris favorably ? who the hell would want tobias harris ? the clippers could offer him for free to me and i'd pass unless i could dump a worse contract on them. tobias harris and tim hardaway jr sounds like the kinda medicore team that nightmares are made of.

[knickstape4ever]

If we don't want Mikal we should be able to trade down with Philly for a second asset.
I'd do #9 for #10 and #26 or #38 if we don't really want him.

I mean if they want Knox over Mikal, no reason for the Knicks not to leverage their draft position to try and pick up extra picks. Hope Perry/Mills have the foresight to do it. I'm expecting they stand pat at 9 and 36, tho I'd like to see Lee traded (even if just for a 2nd) to free up minutes for Dot

I've said this before but i'll say again that i'm not sold like some are on S.Perry yet cause he hasn't done anything anywhere he's been to tell me he's gonna be able to build this team the right way. If he sits on his hands and doesn't do anything in this draft but make his picks at 9 and 36 then i'm gonna be somewhat disappointed with that, i'm not gonna hate on him especially if he makes good picks but he has money to buy either a late 1st round pick or 2nd round pick, he has guys like C.Lee and a couple other guys that could be traded in this draft and this team is in the position to take on a bad contract up to 2 years to get a draft pick or picks in return. So while i'm not gonna be mad if we make two good picks at 9 and 36, i will feel like he didn't show anything in his first draft that tells me he knows how to build a rebuilding team. Make some moves and don't just sit on your hands.

Not sold either. I think he should've traded KOQ and Lee at the deadline (at least KOQ) and that cost us a spot or 2 in the draft. Also, his draft history isn't great. I went back and looked at his past 9 drafts, and even tho he was only the asst. GM, its not good

Magic:
2012: Andrew Nicholson, Orlando Johnson, Kyle O’Quinn
2013: Victor Oladipo, Romero Osby
2014: Aaron Gordon, Elfrid Payton, Devyn Marble
2015: Mario Hezonja, Tyler Harvey
2016: Stephen Zimmerman

Detroit:
2008: Walter Sharpe, Trent Plaisted, Deron Washington
2009: Austin Daye, DaJuan Summers, Jonas Jerebko
2010: Greg Monroe, Terrace White
2011: Brandon Knight, Kyle Singler, Vernon Macklin

[god shammgod]

oh no, we're back to all knox talk

our hopes of moving up were dashed quickly. I'm willing to bet we stay pat with 9 and 36

just take mikal then god dammit