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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#461 » by blueNorange » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:38 am

mpharris36 wrote:I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

i love thibs but i'm waiting for the day when he hands the reigns over to bryant.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#462 » by mpharris36 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:41 am

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Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.


yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.


Fingers crossed we get Zion eventually. play him as a small ball 5, if Randle can sustain that 40% from 3, it could be interesting.


Thibs values rim protection at the 5 so I doubt that is something that interests him. Every big we have brought in has some rim protection skills.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#463 » by mpharris36 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:46 am

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mpharris36 wrote:I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.

i love thibs but i'm waiting for the day when he hands the reigns over to bryant.


Thibs is a mad man. I don't see him ever willfully stepping down. Probably will never get to see Bryant be the HC of the Knicks. I think he has all the tools of being the next big hot young HC candidate so unfortunately I don't think we will be able to keep him past next year. I think another good year and he will get a chance to lead his own thibs.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#464 » by Marty McFly » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:46 am

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yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.


Fingers crossed we get Zion eventually. play him as a small ball 5, if Randle can sustain that 40% from 3, it could be interesting.


Thibs values rim protection at the 5 so I doubt that is something that interests him. Every big we have brought in has some rim protection skills.


Thibs isn't passing on a generational talent is he's available to the knicks. besides, Joakim wasn't a great rim protector and he was a defensive stalwart for those thibs bulls teams.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#465 » by mpharris36 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:51 am

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Fingers crossed we get Zion eventually. play him as a small ball 5, if Randle can sustain that 40% from 3, it could be interesting.


Thibs values rim protection at the 5 so I doubt that is something that interests him. Every big we have brought in has some rim protection skills.


Thibs isn't passing on a generational talent is he's available to the knicks. besides, Joakim wasn't a great rim protector and he was a defensive stalwart for those thibs bulls teams.


He values a defensive anchor. Neither randle or Zion are that. I think it's an either or situation. Of Zion wants to come it's Randle that probably would be going. I don't see how they fit together.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#466 » by robillionaire » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:14 am

Zion could be a free agent in 2027, I hope most of us are still alive by then
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#467 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:47 am

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yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.


I think our goal is to find that long-term PG. RJ also needs to take his game to the next level. He doesn't have to be an All Star, just show out a high degree of consistency even if it's 16-18 ppg, 6-7 rpg, 3-4 apg, 1-2 steals/game and play stellar defense. Starting the season strong would also be nice.

Those were RJ's stats last season


Right, at the end of the season. But that doesn't account for his inconsistencies throughout the year particularly within a game. He'd have a horrific first half and then finally come alive in the fourth. He started off the year 2-40 FGs from 3, or whatever. He was madly inconsistent. Moreover, I'm accounting for the fact that we're adding Fornier and Kemba to the starting lineup who will account for a greater % of the offense than their predecessors last season. Bottom line, the same states are fine, just be more efficient.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#468 » by FutureKnicksGM » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:51 am

What a steal. Julius setting the tone, leaving money off the table. He might be up in the rafters one day!
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#469 » by FutureKnicksGM » Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:16 am

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Too bad broke down Amare stole all that money.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#470 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:55 am

I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#471 » by whocares1 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:08 pm

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Too bad broke down Amare stole all that money.


Lmao. That’s a wack thought when players aren’t even signing with us even when we offer more money. Amare didn’t steal anything it’s not his fault he was injury prone, blame the FO for giving him that contract. “Stole” :roll:
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#472 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:54 pm

Hold up… did we actually sign him for $106 million instead of $117? :o
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#473 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:55 pm

mpharris36 wrote:I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.


Mitchell would def be a great fit and makes a lot of sense. The landscape for the Knicks is dry right now...at least in getting the right superstar on the right timeline. Rose and co have to have a good feel for that. Probably why we went with more of a 2-3 year plan while we wait for the right time to strike.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#474 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:58 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.

Ready, begin.


it's actually rj who wiil suffer the most, he has the worst shot creation abilities. the other 3 will likely have the ball more than him. he'll just hang in the corner mostly.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#475 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:59 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:I think the guy we will be targeting will be Donovan Mitchell. Local kid. Reped by CAA (specifically CP3 agent).

Also we have Johnnie Bryant ties.

We know Mitchell wont be in Utah forever just have to know when to strike.


Mitchell would def be a great fit and makes a lot of sense. The landscape for the Knicks is dry right now...at least in getting the right superstar on the right timeline. Rose and co have to have a good feel for that. Probably why we went with more of a 2-3 year plan while we wait for the right time to strike.


rj in utah ? well damn. even i fell bad about that. that's life tho. bye rj.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#476 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:59 pm

Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nice
the Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks
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Post#477 » by moocow007 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:15 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.

Ready, begin.


Him not being pretty much the sole focal point of the offense actually should help make his life easier. No secret that the way to stop the Knicks was to force anyone else not named Julius Randle to beat you. The Hawks pretty much openly admitted that from the head coach to Trae to anyone else that was asked "what was the game plan used to beat the Knicks" before, during and after the series.

With Walker and Fournier in to replace Elfrid Payton and Reggie Bullock in the starting lineup, teams can't be doing that anymore. Randle actually doesn't have to have the ball in his hands at the start of every play and create for himself in order to score, that's really not his offensive game up until he got to NY. Wasn't at Kentucky, wasn't in LA, wasn't in NO.

Randle is much better off getting the ball in motion where teams can't setup their defense for him and where he can use his great combination of strength, agility, feel and soft hands to score OR to pass which, since he's added the ability to hit 3's makes him even deadlier. He may not play as many minutes and not take as many shots, but the shots he's going to be able to take will most likely be better shots (i.e. not Randle in the half court trying to create space with 3 or 4 other guys on the other team ready to stop him).

The guy that could be under pressure to lose shots is actually RJ Barret who will move from the defacto no.2 option to possibly the no.4 option. Pressure is on RJ Barrett more than Julius Randle to make sure that his game improves so that doesn't happen. But even then, Barrett likely also will be looking at better shots as well even if he takes less of them with both new starters being much better shot creators. To which, Barrett should be focusing on continuing to improve his shot and try to become a little more explosive as open 3's and cuts to the basket are likely going to be more and more what he's going to be looking at on the offensive end.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#478 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:17 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.

Ready, begin.


it's actually rj who wiil suffer the most, he has the worst shot creation abilities. the other 3 will likely have the ball more than him. he'll just hang in the corner mostly.


That should actually help RJ. We should have better spacing and pg play. Maybe RJ gets less shots, but should get better looks.
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Post#479 » by moocow007 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nice
the Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks


Even better. Wow.
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Post#480 » by DaGawd » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:24 pm

Randle da gawd for that
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