Randle's Future

[Nazrmohamed]

trade him now for a 4 & 5

with the depth the team has they really only need defense and shooting .

trade ideas

randle for Avdija and robert williams

randle for ayton who believes he’s capable of playing 4 and did it in his 2nd season

randle for jonathan isaac and wendell carter

y’all on a mission to make us worse…

Randle for Ayton doesn't make us worse. He's a very good player, still has upside, and is youthy.

That would slide OG to the 4 and give us a more modern lineup to take out the Celtics.

You must mean Josh Hart because OG isn't a 4. Neither is Josh Hart but at least he'll rebound. And before you get started go look at what we did while Julius was out. When given the chance we kept OG at SF and played Hart at the 4. That's why before you go making your Julius trades you better figure out how we get true PF production at the 4.

Now with that said, there are certain situations where who gives a damn. And that would be if that C were a world beater C. Can Ayton be that guy? Offensively he's got the potential but he can't defend a wet paper bag. Idk. For a guy like Embiid I'd say it don't matter.

[Iron Mantis]

y’all on a mission to make us worse…

Randle for Ayton doesn't make us worse. He's a very good player, still has upside, and is youthy.

That would slide OG to the 4 and give us a more modern lineup to take out the Celtics.

You must mean Josh Hart because OG isn't a 4. Neither is Josh Hart but at least he'll rebound. And before you get started go look at what we did while Julius was out. When given the chance we kept OG at SF and played Hart at the 4. That's why before you go making your Julius trades you better figure out how we get true PF production at the 4.

Now with that said, there are certain situations where who gives a damn. And that would be if that C were a world beater C. Can Ayton be that guy? Offensively he's got the potential but he can't defend a wet paper bag. Idk. For a guy like Embiid I'd say it don't matter.

Meh. Ayton is a top rebounder in the league. He would average a career high in rebounds on the Knicks who will be a top defensive team.

Either way, OG has rebounding ability. See the playoffs.

Yes, you can also put Josh out there at times with Ayton, Mikal, OG, Brunson. That lineup would push the pace on rebounds.

Overall, today's NBA it's more important that your PF is a strong, mobile, and versatile defender as opposed to being a strong rebounder.

[Clyde_Style]

He'd share that role with Mikal. "Superstar trade package" Mikal needs to step up and do his thing.

I remember OG claiming he wanted a bigger offensive role as well, but I think that was cap....he just wanted to audition for a contract. With his lucrative extension, he's likely cool with the 3&D role at PF.

Let me just debunk this offensive thing because hack writer took a Nurse quote and ran that **** to ground and other outlets didn't bother to source it out.

This thing came from Nurse at the end of the 21-22 season. OG never said he wanted a bigger role. He said he wanted to be included more in the offense, which translated to having more plays called for him. And that's exactly what Nurse did in the following season. The exact quote was, "He wants to be more a part of the offense, so I certainly can help him with that... but it's kind of a working relationship that he's got to go take some of that."

OG has never said he wanted a bigger offensive role in NY. This offensive thing was just regurgitated from an old quote.

I reject this explanation.

I like mines better and the narrative is more logical.

You need to try that rebuttal the next time you get pulled over for a moving violation.

[thebuzzardman]

[Iron Mantis]

Let me just debunk this offensive thing because hack writer took a Nurse quote and ran that **** to ground and other outlets didn't bother to source it out.

This thing came from Nurse at the end of the 21-22 season. OG never said he wanted a bigger role. He said he wanted to be included more in the offense, which translated to having more plays called for him. And that's exactly what Nurse did in the following season. The exact quote was, "He wants to be more a part of the offense, so I certainly can help him with that... but it's kind of a working relationship that he's got to go take some of that."

OG has never said he wanted a bigger offensive role in NY. This offensive thing was just regurgitated from an old quote.

I reject this explanation.

I like mines better and the narrative is more logical.

You need to try that rebuttal the next time you get pulled over for a moving violation.

I always do. Works every time. Jedi mind trick style.

Officer: "you know what???? you're right!! .. your explanation certainly IS more logical. I'm sorry I pulled you over, good citizen.. in fact, I'll write MYSELF a ticket now. Have a good day, sir"

[Guano]

Yet Randle has been All NBA twice in the past 4 years. Meaning he was top 15 by the end of two seasons and had he played enougg gsmes was going to be All NBA again.

Randle isn't the problem. How people perceive Randle is the problem.

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Several issues.
1 - All NBA is a regular season award.
2- NBA is voted by media members.
3 - All NBA is not a top 15 player ranking. That’s an NYKMentality type of argument. That's because All NBA is also affected by injuries and opportunity, and in the past, things like positional designations, and the fact that players have some incentive to stat pad because it affects future salaries (Tyrese Haliburton). I even trust the General Board top rankings more if we want to do the top players of the NBA.

Randle won an All NBA in 22-23. Does that mean he was better than Brunson that season? Even if people didn't see it in the regular season, anyone who watched the playoffs that season could have told you that Brunson was much better, even without the All NBA. Similarly, Brunson didn’t need the validation of an All NBA this year to prove he was better than Randle. He already was. Period.

What it does tell us, though, is that he was very productive in the regular season. Not all players can do that. But that's not the bar for top 15. To be honest, if we're debating Randle's place on the top 50 rankings, we need to move beyond the regular season. That should be the bottom line at most for all the guys on the top 50 - they shouldn't need to prove themselves in the regular season and most of them should already be getting paid big bucks because of that. A lot of those guys should be playing for reputation, legacy, playoff victories, and more.

The good thing, though, is that Randle can really change how people perceive him. It's all in his control. I've always said that he had way more to give, and only himself to blame. There's no reason this board should be this divided on him. We should all be lining up behind him, like we do with Brunson, but Randle needs to change how he's perceived through action to make that happen.

how do you invalidate your whole point then proceed to write a couple paragraphs

[KnicksGadfly]

Yet Randle has been All NBA twice in the past 4 years. Meaning he was top 15 by the end of two seasons and had he played enougg gsmes was going to be All NBA again.

Randle isn't the problem. How people perceive Randle is the problem.

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Several issues.
1 - All NBA is a regular season award.
2- NBA is voted by media members.
3 - All NBA is not a top 15 player ranking. That’s an NYKMentality type of argument. That's because All NBA is also affected by injuries and opportunity, and in the past, things like positional designations, and the fact that players have some incentive to stat pad because it affects future salaries (Tyrese Haliburton). I even trust the General Board top rankings more if we want to do the top players of the NBA.

Randle won an All NBA in 22-23. Does that mean he was better than Brunson that season? Even if people didn't see it in the regular season, anyone who watched the playoffs that season could have told you that Brunson was much better, even without the All NBA. Similarly, Brunson didn’t need the validation of an All NBA this year to prove he was better than Randle. He already was. Period.

What it does tell us, though, is that he was very productive in the regular season. Not all players can do that. But that's not the bar for top 15. To be honest, if we're debating Randle's place on the top 50 rankings, we need to move beyond the regular season. That should be the bottom line at most for all the guys on the top 50 - they shouldn't need to prove themselves in the regular season and most of them should already be getting paid big bucks because of that. A lot of those guys should be playing for reputation, legacy, playoff victories, and more.

The good thing, though, is that Randle can really change how people perceive him. It's all in his control. I've always said that he had way more to give, and only himself to blame. There's no reason this board should be this divided on him. We should all be lining up behind him, like we do with Brunson, but Randle needs to change how he's perceived through action to make that happen.

how do you invalidate your whole point then proceed to write a couple paragraphs

lol I don’t know if that was an invalidation, but maybe a bit of an exaggeration.

I do feel arguing with NYKMentality was a bit of a waste, considering the type of arguments he was using. Similarly, I think just using All NBA to support Randle as a “top 15 player”, without the full context, is something he would do. It’s also how he ended up telling us RJ Barrett was gonna be better than Jordan.

[aggo]

stop using popularity awards to support your arguments.


its embarrassing.

[aggo]

the nba players associations shamed voters and literally campaigned publicly for months to ensure Jaylen brown would get voted in as all-nba so that he could qualify for the supermax.

and now

all-nba selections are position less. this is done so that even more players can be selected based on popularity or contract bonuses, whichever is more convenient in the moment for whichever new player.



quite frankly, using all-nba now as an argument is on the same level as unironically chanting "MVP !!" for Julius randle at the garden.

[Clyde_Style]

I do feel arguing with NYKMentality was a bit of a waste, considering the type of arguments he was using. Similarly, I think just using All NBA to support Randle as a “top 15 player”, without the full context, is something he would do. It’s also how he ended up telling us RJ Barrett was gonna be better than Jordan.

Are you off your rocker?

[moocow007]

Guys still trying to trade Randle for either: a) a young potential superstar or b) a bucket of bolts. You guys never fail to deliver.

[Clyde_Style]

This thread will outlive Randle or his future

[StlHawksFan]

y’all on a mission to make us worse…

Randle for Ayton doesn't make us worse. He's a very good player, still has upside, and is youthy.

That would slide OG to the 4 and give us a more modern lineup to take out the Celtics.

You must mean Josh Hart because OG isn't a 4. Neither is Josh Hart but at least he'll rebound. And before you get started go look at what we did while Julius was out. When given the chance we kept OG at SF and played Hart at the 4. That's why before you go making your Julius trades you better figure out how we get true PF production at the 4.

Now with that said, there are certain situations where who gives a damn. And that would be if that C were a world beater C. Can Ayton be that guy? Offensively he's got the potential but he can't defend a wet paper bag. Idk. For a guy like Embiid I'd say it don't matter.

Ayton would drive Thibs crazy

[GettinitDone]

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Strange release but not bad

[BKlutch]

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Strange release but not bad

Strange video LOL - had to watch it in the mirror.

[Synciere]

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Strange release but not bad

LOL Who asked for that? Were people clamoring for Julius Randle as a righty videos?

[Wildcat]

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LOL Who asked for that? Were people clamoring for Julius Randle as a righty videos?

Up next: What if Julius was Molasses: A Slow-mo Cut. Followed by What if Julius Played in Reverse to complete the trilogy.

[DaGawd]

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Strange release but not bad

crazy the difference in handedness can make a player look totally different

[Iron Mantis]

I don't give a hobo's hat about a right, under, or middle-handed Randle.

If I don't get some meaningful New York Knicks news soon I'm going to lose it.

Any new Tweets of our guys with some scrimmage or pickup game footage? Throw me somethin'... I'm desperate...

[Clyde_Style]

I don't give a hobo's hat about a right, under, or middle-handed Randle.

If I don't get some meaningful New York Knicks news soon I'm going to lose it.

Any new Tweets of our guys with some scrimmage or pickup game footage? Throw me somethin'... I'm desperate...

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