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President?

Harris
8
29%
Trump
6
21%
RFK
3
11%
The Rock
1
4%
Mark Cuban
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David Guetta Ft. Mark Ronson
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No votes
Michelle Obama
4
14%
Ron Desantis
1
4%
Rik Smits
5
18%
 
Total votes: 28

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#461 » by Stannis » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:48 pm

400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#462 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:34 am

Montana's absentee voter system got shut down because the Secretary of State left Harris off the ballot. On purpose.

Where is the Justice Department? This sounds highly illegal.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#463 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:51 am

Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


It's a no win situation for Biden.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#464 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:06 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Montana's absentee voter system got shut down because the Secretary of State left Harris off the ballot. On purpose.

Where is the Justice Department? This sounds highly illegal.


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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#465 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:08 am

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#466 » by Pointgod » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:45 am

Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#467 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:14 am

Pointgod wrote:
Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.


This is true

Netanyahu passed the no looking back threshold a long time ago. He's now a full-blown genocidal maniac who just keeps upping the ante.

If he actually cared about the survival of Israel I'd think he'd be more civilized, but at this point the mindset of the hawks inside Likud may actually think the only way to survive is all-out aggression on multiple fronts. Netanyahu himself has created a perpetual state of emergency and in a state of siege the people usually don't replace their warlord even if he is way out of line. That's his game now, constant offense and stacking Likud with like-minded hawks in order to stay at the helm.

Like Trump, Netanyahu seeks to stay in power to avoid his prosecution as a civilian. They are birds of a feather now, criminals and authoritarians that need power to avoid incarceration.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#468 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:18 am

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Trump is one of the stupidest men of all time

Of course, MAGA will brush it off as a joking comment, but no serious leader would ever utter such an imbecilic thought, even as a joke

A chimp has a better grasp of economics than this clown

His senility is compounding his stupidity at this point
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#469 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:17 am

Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


I figured Netanyahu would try to escalate the conflict in the lead up to the election in an effort to drive votes for Trump, the politician who will let him do whatever he wants for cash considerations.

Then, when the Middle East self immolates 4 years later, blame it on the Libs.

Why not. Who really gives a f*ck about anything anymore?
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#470 » by Pointgod » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:54 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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Trump is one of the stupidest men of all time

Of course, MAGA will brush it off as a joking comment, but no serious leader would ever utter such an imbecilic thought, even as a joke

A chimp has a better grasp of economics than this clown

His senility is compounding his stupidity at this point


Trump is so deeply stupid that it should be an embarrassment to Americans that he was ever President and that the election is even close. This should have been a 30-40 point blowout even for Biden. I promise you this wasn’t a joke, he has no idea how crypto currencies works and he’s mixing in the policy that tech oligarchs push replacing the dollar with crypto…..
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#471 » by DOT » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:25 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#472 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:43 pm

Just try to accept that half of all Americans like some racism and authoritarianism and you'll be ok.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#473 » by Pointgod » Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:48 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.


This is true

Netanyahu passed the no looking back threshold a long time ago. He's now a full-blown genocidal maniac who just keeps upping the ante.

If he actually cared about the survival of Israel I'd think he'd be more civilized, but at this point the mindset of the hawks inside Likud may actually think the only way to survive is all-out aggression on multiple fronts. Netanyahu himself has created a perpetual state of emergency and in a state of siege the people usually don't replace their warlord even if he is way out of line. That's his game now, constant offense and stacking Likud with like-minded hawks in order to stay at the helm.

Like Trump, Netanyahu seeks to stay in power to avoid his prosecution as a civilian. They are birds of a feather now, criminals and authoritarians that need power to avoid incarceration.


The bold is the key that more people need to understand. Netanyahu is deeply unpopular and is staying in power to stay out of jail. Those freaking idiots in Hamas gave him an absolute gift with the Oct 7th attacks. He’s an **** that knows it’s a politically tough situation for Biden/Harris while there seems to be zero political repercussions for Trump’s insane comments about the situation.

Trump and Netanyahu have to be the most politically lucky politicians there are right now.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#474 » by Capn'O » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:16 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Just try to accept that half of all Americans like some racism and authoritarianism and you'll be ok.


I'm not sure how that's how it works but I do have the first part down.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#475 » by Stannis » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:21 pm

Pointgod wrote:
You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.


Still doesn't make any sense. Why send money, arms, and troops to a guy who wants to get Trump elected then?

Especially if we are saying he's trying to cause ruckus to help Trump's re-election.

Seems like the obvious thing to do is not give him the reassurance of USA's backing + resources so he stops. Otherwise, he's going to continue to "help Trump get elected" with what the USA is giving him.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#476 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:31 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Stannis wrote:400 dead in Lebanon as Israel ramped up its attack.

I will be awaiting Biden and Harris's response here.

Another war theater can be good for re-election odds. There's zero signs of things cooling down.

As an American, even if you have no love or sympathy for the people dying in the middle east, do you want to risk another two decades + 2 trillion dollars down the toilet? It'll probably be much worse than that since Iran, Lebanon, Yemen will get more Russia + China backing compared to Afghanistan.


You gotta realize that Netanyahu is doing this cynically to help Trump win. He knows under Harris he won’t get the same leeway that he will have with Trump.

Voting against Harris is not only voting against your own interests but a lot of people’s interests in the world.


A vote for Trump is a vote for the complete genocide of the Palestinian people. I wish the single issue voters would wake up and realize that this problem isn't an easily solved black and white issue. It's a complicated geopolitical problem dating back decades and Biden is screwed either way.

Slap down Bibi and cut Israel off of the money spigot? That comes with geopolitical consequences.

Support Bibi and let Israel wipe out Gaza? That comes with geopolitical consequences, nevermind it being unconscionable.

Trying to broker a common sense cease fire is literally the only option he has. And it isn't easy when both sides are being run by complete psychopaths who have no regard for lives of either the Palestinian and Israeli people.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#477 » by DOT » Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:A vote for Trump is a vote for the complete genocide of the Palestinian people. I wish the single issue voters would wake up and realize that this problem isn't an easily solved black and white issue. It's a complicated geopolitical problem dating back decades and Biden is screwed either way.

First, you gotta just understand there are always gonna be a few people who are just batsh*t. Like, there were actually Jewish Nazis. It didn't work out for them, obviously they were the first to be put in the camps because duh, but still. A certain percentage of the population is just allergic to facts

So while I don't get voting for Trump in this regard, I do understand not voting. As I have said, it's like the trolley problem. If you do nothing, lots more people die, but if you do something, you have directly contributed to the deaths of several people, just fewer than would have died had you done nothing. And it gets murkier still when it's your friends and family in the crossfire. A lot of people can't and really shouldn't just reduce it to simple mathematics

I have the privilege to be removed from the situation, so it's easier for me to do harm reduction, but I understand someone who's unable to choose a lesser evil when it's them who are f*cked either way.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#478 » by St Knick » Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:24 pm

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Interesting news.
The son was just interviewed, defending his father.
Coincidence?
Some speculate "XYZ Gov't agency of your choice" knew of this and used it as blackmail to motivate shooter?
Or simply planted evidence (framing son) after the fact?

I don't pretend to know the answer, but sharing as it's on topic for this thread (which has devolved into "trump is a traitor racist xyz" circle jerk)
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#479 » by Rich Rane » Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:38 pm

Anyone else not surprised this guy reads libsoftiktok?
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Post#480 » by St Knick » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:40 pm

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