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[3toheadmelo]

I will say this...I have seen the SIM play up guys better than it has guys take a lesser role.

Not saying Brooklyn won't thrive. But these are 3 elite of the elite in terms of scoring. Someone is going to have to take a back seat and not put up there "typical" production. How will that impact record...I am curious.

It can work. I remember you were skeptical when I acquired Murray because someone had to take the back seat

[3toheadmelo]

I couldn’t even list everybody especially in the East, and I’m sure I overlooked a few so forgive me and feel free to adjust…..but ummm what y’all think? Potential 2k bubble All-Star Game while we wait for the season to start?

Eastern Conference

Embiid / AD / Sabonis
Durant / Wemby | Chet
Tatum / LeBron | Kawhi
Ant Man | Jaylen Brown | Maxey
Luka | Kyrie / Morant

Western Conference

Nikola Jokic | KAT | JJJ
Giannis Antetokounmpo | Lauri | Mobley
Paolo Banchero | PG13 | J Will
Devin Booker | Curry | Donovan Mitchell
SGA | LaMelo | De’Aaron Fox

Maybe the two GMs who went to the finals last season (MPH & MELO) can represent our respective conferences by finalizing these all-star rosters & rotations to submit to Bish for one final 2k game if he has time?

Who’s down for this?

Im down

[3toheadmelo]

I will say this...I have seen the SIM play up guys better than it has guys take a lesser role.

Not saying Brooklyn won't thrive. But these are 3 elite of the elite in terms of scoring. Someone is going to have to take a back seat and not put up there "typical" production. How will that impact record...I am curious.

Smash has used this model before. It can be very successful but a chip hasn’t been won with this build.

What Brooklyn has in its favor is the positional balance. A franchise center, an all time great forward, and a breakout franchise point guard. All three score efficiently too.

But lack of depth could be an issue, in addition to someone having to take a back seat, having to be Bosh’ed.

[mpharris36]

I will say this...I have seen the SIM play up guys better than it has guys take a lesser role.

Not saying Brooklyn won't thrive. But these are 3 elite of the elite in terms of scoring. Someone is going to have to take a back seat and not put up there "typical" production. How will that impact record...I am curious.

It can work. I remember you were skeptical when I acquired Murray because someone had to take the back seat

I never said it wouldnt.

[2010]

I will say this...I have seen the SIM play up guys better than it has guys take a lesser role.

Not saying Brooklyn won't thrive. But these are 3 elite of the elite in terms of scoring. Someone is going to have to take a back seat and not put up there "typical" production. How will that impact record...I am curious.

Smash has used this model before. It can be very successful but a chip hasn’t been won with this build.

What Brooklyn has in its favor is the positional balance. A franchise center, an all time great forward, and a breakout franchise point guard. All three score efficiently too.

But lack of depth could be an issue, in addition to someone having to take a back seat, having to be Bosh’ed.

I forgot your roster. What was your starting 5 when you won it?

[3toheadmelo]

I will say this...I have seen the SIM play up guys better than it has guys take a lesser role.

Not saying Brooklyn won't thrive. But these are 3 elite of the elite in terms of scoring. Someone is going to have to take a back seat and not put up there "typical" production. How will that impact record...I am curious.

It can work. I remember you were skeptical when I acquired Murray because someone had to take the back seat

I never said it wouldnt.

I know, but I was just pointing out to you and 2010 that it's possible like it was in my case. I had some guys coming off some big years IRL that rated them highly in the SIM and it all managed to work.

Lavine- 25.5 PPG 4.2 APG
Tatum- 23.4 PPG 3.0 APG
Murray- 18.5 PPG 4.8 APG
Schroder- 18.9 PPG 4.0 APG
Randle- 19.5 PPG 3.1 APG
Ayton- 18.2 PPG
Bam- 16 PPG 5 APG

I made adjustments and got the SIM to get everyone to share the ball. My highest scorer on that team was Tatum averaging 17.5 PPG. Richard can probably get his big 3 to do something like that.

[3toheadmelo]

Smash has used this model before. It can be very successful but a chip hasn’t been won with this build.

What Brooklyn has in its favor is the positional balance. A franchise center, an all time great forward, and a breakout franchise point guard. All three score efficiently too.

But lack of depth could be an issue, in addition to someone having to take a back seat, having to be Bosh’ed.

I forgot your roster. What was your starting 5 when you won it?

Peep my response to mpharris. That was basically my whole roster. I had mad scorers.

My starters were

Murray
Lavine
Tatum
Bam
Ayton

[mpharris36]

It can work. I remember you were skeptical when I acquired Murray because someone had to take the back seat

I never said it wouldnt.

I know, but I was just pointing out to you and 2010 that it's possible like it was in my case. I had some guys coming off some big years IRL that rated them highly in the SIM and it all managed to work.

Lavine- 25.5 PPG 4.2 APG
Tatum- 23.4 PPG 3.0 APG
Murray- 18.5 PPG 4.8 APG
Schroder- 18.9 PPG 4.0 APG
Randle- 19.5 PPG 3.1 APG
Ayton- 18.2 PPG
Bam- 16 PPG 5 APG

I made adjustments and got the SIM to get everyone to share the ball. My highest scorer on that team was Tatum averaging 17.5 PPG. Richard can probably get his big 3 to do something like that.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1981368&hilit=jamal+murray+BAF&start=420

I like the trade for both. I actually like it for mase too. Assuming that future consideration is the 2023 Cavs 1st rounder. It's a pretty strong return for Mase.

And Murray is a pretty sick fit for Melo.

I was actually pretty complimentary of your acquisition. But I don't consider you having a similar fit to Brooklyn's team. This is more like those old KOC's build with the 3-4 stars and then not having much depth.

You had a ton of depth on your team because you drafted most of those guys with your initial draft and got them before they broke out in real life and it paid off since you got star return for guys making below star money.

He is paying 2 guys making nearly 88% of his payroll (brunson 1 year deal offsets that a bit) but you had way more guys making in the $60-$100 range and that is how you built your juggernaut. I wouldn't consider you "top" heavy with tose team you had top end talent but good depth because of the good contracts you had.

[3toheadmelo]

I never said it wouldnt.

I know, but I was just pointing out to you and 2010 that it's possible like it was in my case. I had some guys coming off some big years IRL that rated them highly in the SIM and it all managed to work.

Lavine- 25.5 PPG 4.2 APG
Tatum- 23.4 PPG 3.0 APG
Murray- 18.5 PPG 4.8 APG
Schroder- 18.9 PPG 4.0 APG
Randle- 19.5 PPG 3.1 APG
Ayton- 18.2 PPG
Bam- 16 PPG 5 APG

I made adjustments and got the SIM to get everyone to share the ball. My highest scorer on that team was Tatum averaging 17.5 PPG. Richard can probably get his big 3 to do something like that.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1981368&hilit=jamal+murray+BAF&start=420

I like the trade for both. I actually like it for mase too. Assuming that future consideration is the 2023 Cavs 1st rounder. It's a pretty strong return for Mase.

And Murray is a pretty sick fit for Melo.

I was actually pretty complimentary of your acquisition. But I don't consider you having a similar fit to Brooklyn's team. This is more like those old KOC's build with the 3-4 stars and then not having much depth.

You had a ton of depth on your team because you drafted most of those guys with your initial draft and got them before they broke out in real life and it paid off since you got star return for guys making below star money.

He is paying 2 guys making nearly 88% of his payroll (brunson 1 year deal offsets that a bit) but you had way more guys making in the $60-$100 range and that is how you built your juggernaut. I wouldn't consider you "top" heavy with tose team you had top end talent but good depth because of the good contracts you had.

I didn't mean to say you said my moves were bad or anything, but you were a little skeptical like you are now
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Post#613 » by mpharris36 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:31 pm
the question is who in the SIM is going to take a backseat in terms of scoring for the overall squad?

I do agree his depth is worse though. So that's interesting to see how it plays out in Brooklyn. I was just comparing us in terms of having a bunch of scorers on a team and having to take a back seat.

[2010]

I never said it wouldnt.

I know, but I was just pointing out to you and 2010 that it's possible like it was in my case. I had some guys coming off some big years IRL that rated them highly in the SIM and it all managed to work.

Lavine- 25.5 PPG 4.2 APG
Tatum- 23.4 PPG 3.0 APG
Murray- 18.5 PPG 4.8 APG
Schroder- 18.9 PPG 4.0 APG
Randle- 19.5 PPG 3.1 APG
Ayton- 18.2 PPG
Bam- 16 PPG 5 APG

I made adjustments and got the SIM to get everyone to share the ball. My highest scorer on that team was Tatum averaging 17.5 PPG. Richard can probably get his big 3 to do something like that.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1981368&hilit=jamal+murray+BAF&start=420

I like the trade for both. I actually like it for mase too. Assuming that future consideration is the 2023 Cavs 1st rounder. It's a pretty strong return for Mase.

And Murray is a pretty sick fit for Melo.

I was actually pretty complimentary of your acquisition. But I don't consider you having a similar fit to Brooklyn's team. This is more like those old KOC's build with the 3-4 stars and then not having much depth.

You had a ton of depth on your team because you drafted most of those guys with your initial draft and got them before they broke out in real life and it paid off since you got star return for guys making below star money.

He is paying 2 guys making nearly 88% of his payroll (brunson 1 year deal offsets that a bit) but you had way more guys making in the $60-$100 range and that is how you built your juggernaut. I wouldn't consider you "top" heavy with tose team you had top end talent but good depth because of the good contracts you had.

Yeah, I was just gonna say something like this. Melo had a lot more depth and younger talent, without super high usage rates and volume FGA from the top 3 guys. It was spread out. I remember no one played more than 32 mins.

There may not be enough possessions for the Brooklyn big 3 to all get the shots they’re accustomed to. My bet is KD gets Bosh’ed. Richard will have to figure out a way to get contributions out of that bench too.

But with all that said, he’s the favorite in the East for sure right now.

[mpharris36]

I know, but I was just pointing out to you and 2010 that it's possible like it was in my case. I had some guys coming off some big years IRL that rated them highly in the SIM and it all managed to work.

Lavine- 25.5 PPG 4.2 APG
Tatum- 23.4 PPG 3.0 APG
Murray- 18.5 PPG 4.8 APG
Schroder- 18.9 PPG 4.0 APG
Randle- 19.5 PPG 3.1 APG
Ayton- 18.2 PPG
Bam- 16 PPG 5 APG

I made adjustments and got the SIM to get everyone to share the ball. My highest scorer on that team was Tatum averaging 17.5 PPG. Richard can probably get his big 3 to do something like that.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1981368&hilit=jamal+murray+BAF&start=420

I like the trade for both. I actually like it for mase too. Assuming that future consideration is the 2023 Cavs 1st rounder. It's a pretty strong return for Mase.

And Murray is a pretty sick fit for Melo.

I was actually pretty complimentary of your acquisition. But I don't consider you having a similar fit to Brooklyn's team. This is more like those old KOC's build with the 3-4 stars and then not having much depth.

You had a ton of depth on your team because you drafted most of those guys with your initial draft and got them before they broke out in real life and it paid off since you got star return for guys making below star money.

He is paying 2 guys making nearly 88% of his payroll (brunson 1 year deal offsets that a bit) but you had way more guys making in the $60-$100 range and that is how you built your juggernaut. I wouldn't consider you "top" heavy with tose team you had top end talent but good depth because of the good contracts you had.

I didn't mean to say you said my moves were bad or anything, but you were a little skeptical like you are now
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1981368&p=83943648&hilit=back+seat#p83943648

Post#613 » by mpharris36 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:31 pm
the question is who in the SIM is going to take a backseat in terms of scoring for the overall squad?

I do agree his depth is worse though. So that's interesting to see how it plays out in Brooklyn. I was just comparing us in terms of having a bunch of scorers on a team and having to take a back seat.

Just a back seat in terms of scoring though. Which you had most of your guys score way below there IRL production. You just had a ton of talent and great balanced scoring.

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looking back you had Murray avg 14 ppg Tatum at 17 ppg Lavine at 14 ppg Randle only 12 ppg

so it def worked for your guys scoring less then there IRL production. But you could have withstood an injury or two and still been fine (I didn't even know you had Dunn and Hart on that team as well) crazy talented squad.

Embiid and Durant aren't models of health and if he's down one its going to hurt. Your team was loaded to withstand probably 2 or 3 injuries and still be fine

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I couldn’t even list everybody especially in the East, and I’m sure I overlooked a few so forgive me and feel free to adjust…..but ummm what y’all think? Potential 2k bubble All-Star Game while we wait for the season to start?

Eastern Conference

Embiid / AD / Sabonis
Durant / Wemby | Chet
Tatum / LeBron | Kawhi
Ant Man | Jaylen Brown | Maxey
Luka | Kyrie / Morant

Western Conference

Nikola Jokic | KAT | JJJ
Giannis Antetokounmpo | Lauri | Mobley
Paolo Banchero | PG13 | J Will
Devin Booker | Curry | Donovan Mitchell
SGA | LaMelo | De’Aaron Fox

Maybe the two GMs who went to the finals last season (MPH & MELO) can represent our respective conferences by finalizing these all-star rosters & rotations to submit to Bish for one final 2k game if he has time?

Who’s down for this?

Im down

Appreciate you and 2010 acknowledging the idea bro. I’m still like a kid in a candy store when it comes to BaF so always thinking of ways to build excitement. 2k has flaws we all don’t like. I get that, but it would be fun to watch with all the East coast - west coast talk lately.