PG: KNICKS Take Game 1

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[Besart19]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

[prophet_of_rage]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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[Besart19]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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Still no excuses for Thibs who is well versed in Triangle offense where you can start your actions from the wings and make quick passes instead of dribbling. Also its not outlawed to play two PG lineups

[WaltFrazier]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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I'd use Mikal not Hart

[prophet_of_rage]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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I'd use Mikal not Hart

I don't trust Mikal against physical pressure. Maybe but you just cross match the point guard on him and force the ball to Hart.

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[prophet_of_rage]

The problem is not JB isoing nor the amount of shots he takes, but Thibs who keeps him bringing up the ball all the time even when he is guarded most of the time by bigger and taller wings and being traped, pressured anf double of triple teamed before we even get into any set play... that slows down the game and doesnt leave time to run a proper action

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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Still no excuses for Thibs who is well versed in Triangle offense where you can start your actions from the wings and make quick passes instead of dribbling. Also its not outlawed to play two PG lineups

The 2 pg lineuo isn't our best. We do it. I don't like the triangke becauae JB woukd be buried in the corner. A Pistols offence where JB gets it ahead and comes off back into a PNR wouldnbe interesting but I am not sure JB likes.the screen and roll.

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[Jeff Van Gully]

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you can go to a detroit hostel if you want to.

but point taken.

[Clyde_Style]

Nobody else can bring it up against pressure. Hart can only do it in transition. Against a guard in front of him it is a strip. The only guy where you'd have an advantage is KAT against a crntre in Jokic mode. That still requires the others sprinting like Hell to drag their defenders away.

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Still no excuses for Thibs who is well versed in Triangle offense where you can start your actions from the wings and make quick passes instead of dribbling. Also its not outlawed to play two PG lineups

The 2 pg lineuo isn't our best. We do it. I don't like the triangke becauae JB woukd be buried in the corner. A Pistols offence where JB gets it ahead and comes off back into a PNR wouldnbe interesting but I am not sure JB likes.the screen and roll.

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Like I said before, if they committed to upping the pace that could work. There's no reason that 1 out 3 times up the floor we couldn't get it over the timeline more quickly if that was the agenda.

I definitely think we should force the pace more often. Some of that comes down to increasing our defensive intensity like we just saw in the fourth quarter.

[Clyde_Style]

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Good breakdown

Like he said, if Thibs adjusts like you expect a top coach to do then the praises will come from his detractors

Based on the fourth quarter, this was maybe Thibs best game of the year. The pressure focused his concentration and the result was good.

We should probably expect more of KAT-OG-Mitch on the floor at the same time. This will likely mean less minutes for Mikal and Josh, but that can be a positive, because it will give Thibs the ability to play them more when they are clicking, sit them more when they're not. That's a more flexible arrangement this roster requires in general.

[Adelheid]

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Good breakdown

Like he said, if Thibs adjusts like you expect a top coach to do then the praises will come from his detractors

Based on the fourth quarter, this was maybe Thibs best game of the year. The pressure focused his concentration and the result was good.

We should probably expect more of KAT-OG-Mitch on the floor at the same time. This will likely mean less minutes for Mikal and Josh, but that can be a positive, because it will give Thibs the ability to play them more when they are clicking, sit them more when they're not. That's a more flexible arrangement this roster requires in general.

the most commendable thing thibs did in game 1 is, when deuce and mikal were stinking up the joint, he benched them and subbed in payne...and kept him there while hot. he should do such adjustments more often

[Clyde_Style]

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Good breakdown

Like he said, if Thibs adjusts like you expect a top coach to do then the praises will come from his detractors

Based on the fourth quarter, this was maybe Thibs best game of the year. The pressure focused his concentration and the result was good.

We should probably expect more of KAT-OG-Mitch on the floor at the same time. This will likely mean less minutes for Mikal and Josh, but that can be a positive, because it will give Thibs the ability to play them more when they are clicking, sit them more when they're not. That's a more flexible arrangement this roster requires in general.

the most commendable thing thibs did in game 1 is, when deuce and mikal were stinking up the joint, he benched them and subbed in payne...and kept him there while hot. he should do such adjustments more often

And now that Mitch is back, KAT can play more perimeter man defense which he is vastly better at than playing drop coverage.

I hope Thibs keeps that going as much as their minutes will allow.

[Garbagelo]

Pistons are just a band of mercenaries who are all out for a new contract or trying to have revenge against us. They have 3 rotation players who are in a contract season.

Punch them hard and expect them to fight each other for shots to get theirs.

[NiceLikeChrist]

Yall gonna drive Brunson to eating vaseline on the podcast

It's a close call. He def deserves leeway as the best player. But this was a game where OG was red hot early, where Karl barely missed. He can't take fadeaways and get blocked off no motion. Or take fast break floaters from behind the basket.

Some was egregious. It just was, even for how much leeway JB has earned.

Hopefully he learns and stops. Team is much better when he tries to let others take the lead early. Hart is also showing signs again. We may have something, but not with solo JB in quarters one and two especially.

It seems like people already forgot how Brunson was forcing way too much and shooting us out of the pacers series last year. We should’ve won that series all things considered.

[HopelessKnick]

Good breakdown

Like he said, if Thibs adjusts like you expect a top coach to do then the praises will come from his detractors

Based on the fourth quarter, this was maybe Thibs best game of the year. The pressure focused his concentration and the result was good.

We should probably expect more of KAT-OG-Mitch on the floor at the same time. This will likely mean less minutes for Mikal and Josh, but that can be a positive, because it will give Thibs the ability to play them more when they are clicking, sit them more when they're not. That's a more flexible arrangement this roster requires in general.

the most commendable thing thibs did in game 1 is, when deuce and mikal were stinking up the joint, he benched them and subbed in payne...and kept him there while hot. he should do such adjustments more often

And now that Mitch is back, KAT can play more perimeter man defense which he is vastly better at than playing drop coverage.

I hope Thibs keeps that going as much as their minutes will allow.

While that video was meant as a positive for Thibs, in it was really something negative as well ---most of the adjustments/changes that were made the commentator says "were things Knick fans were begging for the entire season". That to me is a pretty bad look on the coach. If your fans are begging for sensible changes the entire season and you are refusing them, then that's a bad look.

Despite the win, let us keep in mind that the team was down 9 late in the third and like 6-7 points midway through the 4th. This is at MSG against a team that is clearly much less talented than the Knicks. So overall you take a playoff win in any shape or form but it was not something convincing in regards to Thibs. As far as I'm concerned the Thibs train has left the station already---he failed to establish a proper deep rotation which would have helped taking care of business in the first round at home against a much less talented opponent missing it's second best player. He won't be able to establish a depp, confident bench on the fly in the playoffs. That ship has sailed. Not convinced at all. I don't know how this win could have anyone convinced that Knicks could go on and beat Boston for the ECF.

[matchman]

A bench player scores 14 and salvages a loss and we act like he's Ginobelli. Thib really got them ready at halftime. Brightside KAT remembered he has feet and is allowed to move them.

5 1sts for -16 poor mans Iman Shumpert.

It takes you long enough, like 15 or 16 pages to construct this demoralizing post.

[LFGK]

Yall gonna drive Brunson to eating vaseline on the podcast

It's a close call. He def deserves leeway as the best player. But this was a game where OG was red hot early, where Karl barely missed. He can't take fadeaways and get blocked off no motion. Or take fast break floaters from behind the basket.

Some was egregious. It just was, even for how much leeway JB has earned.

Hopefully he learns and stops. Team is much better when he tries to let others take the lead early. Hart is also showing signs again. We may have something, but not with solo JB in quarters one and two especially.

It seems like people already forgot how Brunson was forcing way too much and shooting us out of the pacers series last year. We should’ve won that series all things considered.

lol cmon man, that series was 1 absurd 3 away from being over

[Clyde_Style]

the most commendable thing thibs did in game 1 is, when deuce and mikal were stinking up the joint, he benched them and subbed in payne...and kept him there while hot. he should do such adjustments more often

And now that Mitch is back, KAT can play more perimeter man defense which he is vastly better at than playing drop coverage.

I hope Thibs keeps that going as much as their minutes will allow.

While that video was meant as a positive for Thibs, in it was really something negative as well ---most of the adjustments/changes that were made the commentator says "were things Knick fans were begging for the entire season". That to me is a pretty bad look on the coach. If your fans are begging for sensible changes the entire season and you are refusing them, then that's a bad look.

Despite the win, let us keep in mind that the team was down 9 late in the third and like 6-7 points midway through the 4th. This is at MSG against a team that is clearly much less talented than the Knicks. So overall you take a playoff win in any shape or form but it was not something convincing in regards to Thibs. As far as I'm concerned the Thibs train has left the station already---he failed to establish a proper deep rotation which would have helped taking care of business in the first round at home against a much less talented opponent missing it's second best player. He won't be able to establish a depp, confident bench on the fly in the playoffs. That ship has sailed. Not convinced at all. I don't know how this win could have anyone convinced that Knicks could go on and beat Boston for the ECF.

Sure, it is pretty late in the game to be making adjustments they failed to make during the regular season. Not a fan of his even if he does make some adjustments now. We still need a better coach, but for the time being I'm willing to find the positives if they exist.

I have no predictions for these playoffs. I merely watch and try to enjoy each success along the way.

[gavran]

Yall gonna drive Brunson to eating vaseline on the podcast

It's a close call. He def deserves leeway as the best player. But this was a game where OG was red hot early, where Karl barely missed. He can't take fadeaways and get blocked off no motion. Or take fast break floaters from behind the basket.

Some was egregious. It just was, even for how much leeway JB has earned.

Hopefully he learns and stops. Team is much better when he tries to let others take the lead early. Hart is also showing signs again. We may have something, but not with solo JB in quarters one and two especially.

It seems like people already forgot how Brunson was forcing way too much and shooting us out of the pacers series last year. We should’ve won that series all things considered.

Was that before or after all the Knicks' offense got injured?