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Post#461 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:03 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:The lack of minutes for Precious is mystifying

Thibs praying old Mitch shows up when so far that guy has been AWOL


It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


Honestly, Precious didn't have a stellar season. I'm going to be real. I was ready to give him the starting C spot before the KAT trade.


That's not relevant.

Precious is a hot or not player like Cam.

When Precious is locked in he's actually excellent.

When he's not, you just park him back on the bench.

Mitch shows no signs of excelling, whereas Precious has won us games this seasons just like Cam has.
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Post#462 » by snadler » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:06 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The lack of minutes for Precious is mystifying

Thibs praying old Mitch shows up when so far that guy has been AWOL


It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs if often woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.



I read another one of these long winded posts, and I wonder if fans that post this stuff don’t watch the playoffs or have ever watched the playoffs before. All playoff teams shorten their rotations in the playoffs..just watch other games..and on a day the team you “root” for goes up 3-1 with 2 really nice road wins in a tough environment and you are complaining about no Precious..give me a break
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Post#463 » by Guano » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:07 pm

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Post#464 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:07 pm

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I actually think he’s a legit #1. The Pistons just don’t have a #2 around him


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Post#465 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:07 pm

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Enzo954 wrote:
It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


Honestly, Precious didn't have a stellar season. I'm going to be real. I was ready to give him the starting C spot before the KAT trade.


That's not relevant.

Precious is a hot or not player like Cam.

When Precious is locked in he's actually excellent.

When he's not, you just park him back on the bench.

Mitch shows no signs of excelling, whereas Precious has won us games this seasons just like Cam has.


The only issue is that by the time you figure out he’s “not” he’s already committed a ton of blunders that can cost you the game and when you look at our margin for error it’s pretty slim

Mitch, I dunno. Someone do a spell or ritual. But we need him to put the pieces together quick
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Post#466 » by Capn'O » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:08 pm

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Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I actually think he’s a legit #1. The Pistons just don’t have a #2 around him


Yeah. But...

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Imagine him next to Brunson. I would trade any non JB piece we have for him.

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I think we could’ve made that possible with a similar player in Donovan Mitchell.. but oh well lol


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Post#468 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:08 pm

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It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs if often woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.



I read another one of these long winded posts, and I wonder if fans that post this stuff don’t watch the playoffs or have ever watched the playoffs before. All playoff teams shorten their rotations in the playoffs..just watch other games..and on a day the team you “root” for goes up 3-1 with 2 really nice road wins in a tough environment and you are complaining about no Precious..give me a break


I'll give you a break when you explain why someone playing as badly as Mitch is getting minutes over a regular season roster player who has done things this season Mitch appears unable to do.
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Post#469 » by Guano » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:08 pm

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Post#470 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:10 pm

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Wildcat wrote:
Honestly, Precious didn't have a stellar season. I'm going to be real. I was ready to give him the starting C spot before the KAT trade.


That's not relevant.

Precious is a hot or not player like Cam.

When Precious is locked in he's actually excellent.

When he's not, you just park him back on the bench.

Mitch shows no signs of excelling, whereas Precious has won us games this seasons just like Cam has.


The only issue is that by the time you figure out he’s “not” he’s already committed a ton of blunders that can cost you the game and when you look at our margin for error it’s pretty slim

Mitch, I dunno. Someone do a spell or ritual. But we need him to put the pieces together quick


He can trial Cam for a few minutes so he can do the same with Precious

We wouldn't even be talking about this if Mitch wasn't so bad right now. You see it. You're not disputing it.
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Post#471 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:10 pm

Credit to Hart for making a few 3s in this one at least. 14 pts 10 rebs 5 ast 4 stl
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Post#472 » by rajajackal » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:10 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The lack of minutes for Precious is mystifying

Thibs praying old Mitch shows up when so far that guy has been AWOL


It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs is usually woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.


i've been giving thought to how this can be the case for a man with his bbiq and zeal for winning. my conclusion is that it's the other side of the coin: he invests so much in prep and study that he insists upon the gameplan no matter what the game tells him in real time. guess that's a roundabout way of concluding he is stubborn, including the "why" :lol:
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Post#473 » by snadler » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:11 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
snadler wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs if often woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.



I read another one of these long winded posts, and I wonder if fans that post this stuff don’t watch the playoffs or have ever watched the playoffs before. All playoff teams shorten their rotations in the playoffs..just watch other games..and on a day the team you “root” for goes up 3-1 with 2 really nice road wins in a tough environment and you are complaining about no Precious..give me a break


I'll give you a break when you explain why someone playing as badly as Mitch is getting minutes over a regular season roster player who has done things this season Mitch appears unable to do.


Trust…thibs trust mitch’s defense..and as I said they have won and are up 3-1 in this series..a
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Post#474 » by Guano » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:11 pm

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Post#475 » by Adelheid » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:11 pm

with all this chatter about l2m blown calls - has any win been revoked because of it?
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Post#476 » by snadler » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:13 pm

Adelheid wrote:with all this chatter about l2m blown calls - has any win been revoked because of it?


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Post#477 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:14 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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That's not relevant.

Precious is a hot or not player like Cam.

When Precious is locked in he's actually excellent.

When he's not, you just park him back on the bench.

Mitch shows no signs of excelling, whereas Precious has won us games this seasons just like Cam has.


The only issue is that by the time you figure out he’s “not” he’s already committed a ton of blunders that can cost you the game and when you look at our margin for error it’s pretty slim

Mitch, I dunno. Someone do a spell or ritual. But we need him to put the pieces together quick


He can trial Cam for a few minutes so he can do the same with Precious

We wouldn't even be talking about this if Mitch wasn't so bad right now. You see it. You're not disputing it.


Well the “he’s sick” excuse has been run out there (he was questionable to play) and our best chance going forward might be hoping he gets right rather than pulling the plug. He’s had a couple really tough outings for sure though
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Post#479 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:14 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.


This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs is usually woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.


i've been giving thought to how this can be the case for a man with his bbiq and zeal for winning. my conclusion is that it's the other side of the coin: he invests so much in prep and study that he insists upon the gameplan no matter what the game tells him in real time. guess that's a roundabout way of concluding he is stubborn, including the "why" :lol:


Yeah, you're right. He's stubborn as a mule. That's favorable for some aspects of the game when it comes to effort, but it's a major detriment when it comes to making real-time strategic adjustments.

Thibs is like the average person who rubbernecks an accident scene. He just gawks from the sideline. Maybe 1 or 2 out of 100 people pull the guy out of a burning car and saves their life.

Thibs stands around to watch the car blow up with the passenger inside.
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Post#480 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:15 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Yeah. But...

Spoiler:
Imagine him next to Brunson. I would trade any non JB piece we have for him.

Spoiler:
I think we could’ve made that possible with a similar player in Donovan Mitchell.. but oh well lol


Spoiler:
Cade is a far better fit because he can guard 1-3.

Spoiler:
Better fit defensively but Mitchell is a good defender himself. That’s why the Cavs have no issues with a small back court. And he’s one of the best playoff performers in the league. Averaging 28 PPG as his playoff career. But either one would do. They are pipe dreams at this point tho.. hopefully Mikal can start waking up on offense
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