Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1

thebuzzardman · Post #461 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:15 pm

Galvationknicks wrote:Nobody wants to trade with us

Leon and WWW connections really helping out!

Worst_to_First · Post #462 » by **Worst_to_First** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:28 pm

That MPJ for Cam Johnson trade is a good one for Denver. With all the picks we gave the Nets, we should have gotten both Mikal and Cam salaries in the trade notwithstanding.

Guano · Post #463 » by **Guano** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:37 pm

Lakers traded picks for him less than a year ago to watch him walk

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Guano · Post #464 » by **Guano** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:43 pm

I cant keep up with 2 threads.... I thought the trades and transaction thread was where everyone posted their terrible trade ideas

Galvationknicks · Post #465 » by **Galvationknicks** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:58 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:Nobody wants to trade with us

Leon and WWW connections really helping out!

CP thefranchise actually boasting about knowing the 2nd rd of interviews and they touched based with dawn Stanley. He has sauces now lol

Jay10 · Post #466 » by **Jay10** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:06 am

Galvationknicks wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:Nobody wants to trade with us

Leon and WWW connections really helping out!

CP thefranchise actually boasting about knowing the 2nd rd of interviews and they touched based with dawn Stanley. He has sauces now lol

The front office doesn't have Woj anymore, and they aren't going to give Shams anything.

Juco24 · Post #467 » by **Juco24** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:46 am

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Juco24 · Post #468 » by **Juco24** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:46 am

If Giannis is watching.... can't be happy

Guano · Post #469 » by **Guano** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:30 am

Love to see our enemies suffer

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Hi meLo

Galvationknicks · Post #470 » by **Galvationknicks** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:49 am

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We did it Leon

Guano · Post #471 » by **Guano** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:03 am

Im officially on board

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thebuzzardman · Post #472 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:05 am

Guano wrote:Im officially on board

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Almost as exciting as the day the Knicks inked Cam Payne

Reign23 · Post #473 » by **Reign23** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:57 am

caught up to the news from last night.
Incredible deals for Denver. I like Cam more than MPJ and they shed salary big time.
Also Bruce Brown back for the minimum is huge. Was worth the unprotected future first.

HopelessKnick · Post #474 » by **HopelessKnick** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:39 am

Worst_to_First wrote:That MPJ for Cam Johnson trade is a good one for Denver. With all the picks we gave the Nets, we should have gotten both Mikal and Cam salaries in the trade notwithstanding.

Yeah the Bridges trade was a vast overpay but again: Cam Johnson makes 23mill. a year......what salary would you have sent out to get Johnson back? We only had that Bogdanovic expiring...every other big salary would have us sent out Hart, Brunson, OG, Randle or DD at that point.....which would have been another downgrade. What you are suggesting would not have been possible or it would have been a further downgrade. The mistake in the Bridges trade was not the salary or contract allocation but rather the amount of picks...if the price was reasonable, which meant 2-3 picks for Mikal we would all be happy right now. But because we vastly overpaid the trade remains bitter-sweet at best....

HopelessKnick · Post #475 » by **HopelessKnick** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:44 am

Reign23 wrote:caught up to the news from last night.
Incredible deals for Denver. I like Cam more than MPJ and they shed salary big time.
Also Bruce Brown back for the minimum is huge. Was worth the unprotected future first.

The trade is 100% understandable from both perspectives. Denver is essentially trying everything they can do to put Jokic in a title contending position. Today they are better than 24 hours ago. They replaced MPJ with Johnson and Brown.

Murray, Braun, Brown, Johnson, Gordon, Jokic is nice but that team needs more depth. Like at least another 1-2 players. Keep in mind that it seems they are in the process of losing Westbrook, who despite his many flaws did contribute to them.

HopelessKnick · Post #476 » by **HopelessKnick** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:52 am

I feel we are witnessing the big problem with the KAT contract. At this point you really can't have any overpaid contracts on your salary without some immediate punishment. KAT at 55mill. is overpaid by somewhere between 12-15mill. which has essentially cost us another strong bench contributor in the DFS class of players.

I'm still hoping against all hope that there is some opening for Giannis because that KAT contract is a big detriment to team building. He effectively makes 20mill. more than Brunson per year.

Bridges really shouldn't be getting more than 30mill. a year but he has all the leverage and is likely to get more....

ctorres · Post #477 » by **ctorres** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:18 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:That MPJ for Cam Johnson trade is a good one for Denver. With all the picks we gave the Nets, we should have gotten both Mikal and Cam salaries in the trade notwithstanding.

Yeah the Bridges trade was a vast overpay but again: Cam Johnson makes 23mill. a year......what salary would you have sent out to get Johnson back? We only had that Bogdanovic expiring...every other big salary would have us sent out Hart, Brunson, OG, Randle or DD at that point.....which would have been another downgrade. What you are suggesting would not have been possible or it would have been a further downgrade. The mistake in the Bridges trade was not the salary or contract allocation but rather the amount of picks...if the price was reasonable, which meant 2-3 picks for Mikal we would all be happy right now. But because we vastly overpaid the trade remains bitter-sweet at best....

Knicks had to pay the Knicks tax in acquiring Mikal

for any other team, it would have likely taken 2 to 4 picks to get him

for the Knicks it was 5 picks, especially because they knew we wanted to re-unite him with his Villanova bros and Nets likely suspected some tampering the entire time Mikal was on the Nets and Jalen, Josh, and DDV were on the Knicks

Worst_to_First · Post #478 » by **Worst_to_First** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:20 pm

ctorres wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:That MPJ for Cam Johnson trade is a good one for Denver. With all the picks we gave the Nets, we should have gotten both Mikal and Cam salaries in the trade notwithstanding.

Yeah the Bridges trade was a vast overpay but again: Cam Johnson makes 23mill. a year......what salary would you have sent out to get Johnson back? We only had that Bogdanovic expiring...every other big salary would have us sent out Hart, Brunson, OG, Randle or DD at that point.....which would have been another downgrade. What you are suggesting would not have been possible or it would have been a further downgrade. The mistake in the Bridges trade was not the salary or contract allocation but rather the amount of picks...if the price was reasonable, which meant 2-3 picks for Mikal we would all be happy right now. But because we vastly overpaid the trade remains bitter-sweet at best....

Knicks had to pay the Knicks tax in acquiring Mikal

for any other team, it would have likely taken 2 to 4 picks to get him

for the Knicks it was 5 picks, especially because they knew we wanted to re-unite him with his Villanova bros and Nets likely suspected some tampering the entire time Mikal was on the Nets and Jalen, Josh, and DDV were on the Knicks

Yes thanks was thinking alone this lines, that’s why I said salaries in the trade notwithstanding.

KnicksGadfly · Post #479 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:23 pm

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F N 11 · Post #480 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:28 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:I feel we are witnessing the big problem with the KAT contract. At this point you really can't have any overpaid contracts on your salary without some immediate punishment. KAT at 55mill. is overpaid by somewhere between 12-15mill. which has essentially cost us another strong bench contributor in the DFS class of players.

I'm still hoping against all hope that there is some opening for Giannis because that KAT contract is a big detriment to team building. He effectively makes 20mill. more than Brunson per year.

Bridges really shouldn't be getting more than 30mill. a year but he has all the leverage and is likely to get more....

You pretty much said it before me. Can’t have all these big contacts need role players and the big contract guys taking up a lot. That’s why we can’t have good bench players even with Brunson pay cut. Biggest problem is they have big contracts but produce like role players.