Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

SuperflyKnick · Post #4701 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:16 pm

[quote="Village Idiot"]How about Mo Williams for Iman Shumpert and Beno Udrih as the basis for a trade?

Williams is better than Felton and with Hardaway emergent Shumpert isn't needed.[/quote

Really ? Is this a serious suggestion

Post #4702 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:17 pm

You pretty much have to make Shumpert available for a PG now. Felton is unacceptable. I'm sure the Knicks would be dying to have Lin at this point -- $15M next season but expiring in time and a real PG.

riter · Post #4703 » by **riter** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:42 pm

KnicksGod wrote:You pretty much have to make Shumpert available for a PG now. Felton is unacceptable. I'm sure the Knicks would be dying to have Lin at this point -- $15M next season but expiring in time and a real PG.

Tyson/Shump for Asik/Lin

Post #4704 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:46 pm

riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:You pretty much have to make Shumpert available for a PG now. Felton is unacceptable. I'm sure the Knicks would be dying to have Lin at this point -- $15M next season but expiring in time and a real PG.

Tyson/Shump for Asik/Lin

Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

riter · Post #4705 » by **riter** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:03 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

If
Melo is staying and agrees
Dolan agrees

Asik/Melo/Brewer/Lin/Felton
kmart/JR/Timmy

not a bad way to go that doesn't kill 2015.

But Daffy says Dolan's feelings are still hurt and Houston would want more.
Could you imagine handing over Timmy Jr. and a pick for an asset that we gave away for nothing?

Lord Commander · Post #4706 » by **Lord Commander** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:04 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:You pretty much have to make Shumpert available for a PG now. Felton is unacceptable. I'm sure the Knicks would be dying to have Lin at this point -- $15M next season but expiring in time and a real PG.

Tyson/Shump for Asik/Lin

Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

We'd still need to move Fat Bastard.

Jay10 · Post #4707 » by **Jay10** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:07 pm

riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

If
Melo is staying and agrees
Dolan agrees

Asik/Melo/Brewer/Lin/Felton
kmart/JR/Timmy

not a bad way to go that doesn't kill 2015.

But Daffy says Dolan's feelings are still hurt and Houston would want more.
Could you imagine handing over Timmy Jr. and a pick for an asset that we gave away for nothing?

no, because as long as dolan is the owner Jeremy will never wear a knick jersey. :lol:

Post #4708 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:09 pm

riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

If
Melo is staying and agrees
Dolan agrees

Asik/Melo/Brewer/Lin/Felton
kmart/JR/Timmy

not a bad way to go that doesn't kill 2015.

But Daffy says Dolan's feelings are still hurt and Houston would want more.
Could you imagine handing over Timmy Jr. and a pick for an asset that we gave away for nothing?

But Dolan could justify it because he's saving luxury tax this way. If we had matched Lin, there'd be a much bigger luxury tax hit than if we trade for him now.

riter · Post #4709 » by **riter** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:12 pm

KnicksGod wrote:But Dolan could justify it because he's saving luxury tax this way. If we had matched Lin, there'd be a much bigger luxury tax hit than if we trade for him now.

Since Dolan can justify anything, anything including and after your first 29 characters is a true statement.

Post #4710 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:15 pm

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
riter wrote:
Tyson/Shump for Asik/Lin

Well maybe they'd do it, just to get out of those two big payments. Seems lopsided though. Then again, these guys are both expiring next season.

What do people think?

We'd still need to move Fat Bastard.

I don't see any way you move Felton without a pick or two involved. Even then $4M is not nothing. You can possibly buy a pick more cheaply. Felton will be on this roster in 2015 I believe.

AndrettiFamily · Post #4711 » by **AndrettiFamily** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:25 pm

what do u guys think?

NYK trades to PHI:

THJ
Murry
Tyler
Bargs
Draft pick(s)

NYK recieves:
Thad Young
Lavoy Allen
Tony Wroten
Daniel Orton

Wroten/Felton/Udrih
JR/Shump/Prigs
Young/Metta
Melo/STAT/K-Mart/Orton
Chandler/Allen/Aldrich

riter · Post #4712 » by **riter** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:41 pm

AndrettiFamily wrote:what do u guys think?

NYK trades to PHI:

THJ
Murry
Tyler
Bargs
Draft pick(s)

NYK recieves:
Thad Young
Lavoy Allen
Tony Wroten
Daniel Orton

Wroten and tim hardaway JR. are too good,young, and cheap to trade for either team.
we shouldn't give up draft picks b/c if they actually trade Thad, it's not b/c they don't want him, it's his contract so we'll be doing them a favor w/Bargs contract.

otherwise I would do it.

Newyorknick94 · Post #4713 » by **Newyorknick94** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:46 pm

Why aren't we in any serious discussions yet?

Jay10 · Post #4714 » by **Jay10** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:59 pm

Newyorknick94 wrote:Why aren't we in any serious discussions yet?

can't make any trades until carmelo tells them he's going to re-sign or leave in free agency.

Dbloc123 · Post #4715 » by **Dbloc123** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:04 pm

Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao

Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton

Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson

Knicks

Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler

SuperflyKnick · Post #4716 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:27 pm

Dbloc123 wrote:Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao

Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton

Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson

Knicks

Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler

Cleveland demands 8 meals for Felton everyday for until his contract runs out .... P.S has to include fried chicken and steak as appetizers

Dbloc123 · Post #4717 » by **Dbloc123** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:31 pm

SuperflyKnick wrote:
Dbloc123 wrote:Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao

Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton

Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson

Knicks

Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler

Cleveland demands 8 meals for Felton everyday for until his contract runs out .... P.S has to include fried chicken and steak as appetizers

Deal.... Also will throw in 2 stare downs at the refs like he didnt commit the foul

AndrettiFamily · Post #4718 » by **AndrettiFamily** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:39 pm

riter wrote:
AndrettiFamily wrote:
Wroten and tim hardaway JR. are too good,young, and cheap to trade for either team.
we shouldn't give up draft picks b/c if they actually trade Thad, it's not b/c they don't want him, it's his contract so we'll be doing them a favor w/Bargs contract.

otherwise I would do it.

no doubt man. and obviously, a trade with philly probably wont even happen. but i really like a package if Allen/Wroten/Young

Wroten is a PG capable of producing now as well as betting better. Allen is a bonafide rotation bigman. Young is Josh Smith2.0 only he has his head on better. not a fan of trading picks or thj, but itd definitely be worth it for a package like this. philly can also stay young with murry tyler thj and they get the better deal in terms of contracts. i just feel like we need some more athleticsm and a change of scenery for melo. melo would benefit from thad young. and also since woody is a fan of defense this would also be solid. again, not gonna happen because dolan is.....dolan but id definitely go after young/wroten/allen package, we have the assets. philly could be really nice with wiggins/mcw/noel/thj/tyler, so young

Knicksfan1992 · Post #4719 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:50 pm

Dbloc123 wrote:Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao

Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton

Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson

Knicks

Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler

That team may be worst defensively than we are now... which is hard to be

spikeslovechild · Post #4720 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:12 pm

New York Knicks Receive:
Shawn Marion, 35 year old , 6-7, 228 lb F from UNLV
11.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.4 minutes

Jose Calderon, 32 year old, 6-3, 211 lb G from Laboral Kutxa (Spain)
11.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.9 apg in 31.6 minutes

Try for 2014 protected first round pick. Willing to settle for 2 seconds.

New Yorks Knicks Trade:
Tyson Chandler, 31 year old , 7-1, 240 lb C from Dominguez High School (California)
8.2 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 28.3 minutes in 2013-2014

J.R. Smith, 28 year old , 6-6, 220 lb SG from Saint Benedict's Preparatory School (NJ)
13.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 32.6 minutes in 2013-2014