FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Juco24]

I didn't realize how down the pacers are on Roy. I swear we need to make a play for him! At this point, I think West is a lock. Get Roy on the cheap and I think we still have enough to sign Carroll.
Gallo/ Grant
Carroll/Shved
Roy/Bargs
West/Prinzy
Melo/Early

[LLA666]

lets rape the pacers
hibbert and next year first for calderon
then sigh west and max butler....
grant
butler
melo
west
hibbert
cap space next year

[Jose7]

Disclaimer: Warriors are the NBA champions, I am not saying the Knicks will become the NBA champions or replicate every step that happen BUT sh*t takes time and we are all done with the quick fix Layden/IT movements. Walsh and PJax though very different valued cap space but Phil IMO has shown he values assets a bit more, not necessarily worrying about "the summer of the max cat"

Ok so..warriors coming off 08 terrible season, injury riddled to their best player at the time, 23 year old monta. Older Vets, Maggette, Captain Jackson, Crawford (trade for Free candy), etc.. Get the #7 pick following year..This is years of drafting terribly as well (anthony randolph, brandan wright draft night trade, Patrick Cook O'Bryant")

2009 - curry (#7)..again terrible year and then took Udok in 2010.. Mind you, all these are top 10 lottery picks their burning through.

2011..Hire Mark Jackson,,, makes the trade for lee, signed D Wright, a trade with the nets which included a 2nd (becomes Green), and drafts Klay 11th

Disaster rookie head coach year, shortened season as well ...trade for bogut midseason along with SJax again (who they trade for a first who becomes Ezeli)

2012 offseason.. draft Barnes, Ezeli, and Green

2013.. traded assets for Iggy, sign speights

2014..Kerr..sign Livingston, barbosa

Took these **** missing on tons of missed lottery picks, finally getting it right/lucky in 2009..6 years later with 3 more lottery picks, some good late pick investments, and some good veteran pickups over time to become ultra competitive. Developed players right and hired the correct coach for the team. It's gonna take some time.

Phil, not even in 16 months has already increased our assets. Thanasis Antetokounmpo, cleathony early, louis laybyrie, galloway, hernangomez, grant, and Kris Porzingis..now we have a **** ton of cap space to work with, with a top notch scorer to build around. The play has been ugly, and Fisher's and Phil's report cards are incomplete but it takes time. Last year we had a dearth of talent for our system more than anything but I'm happy we are building towards something for the long run I don't feel deceived by Phil nor am I saying he's done a great job. I just see that he's laid a foundation towards building through the draft and developing players.

[Obi-One]

Marc Gasol, come on down

[HarthorneWingo]

Good post Jose.

[Reign23]

pretty safe to say what the knicks are up to (FA or trade):

PF: second scoring option (LMA, Love, Monroe, Millsap, Harris)
C: rim protector (deandre, RoLo, Asik, Hibbert)

If we sign Monroe and want him to play center, then the PF options are West, Amir and Taj Gibson.

(Marc Gasol will stay with MEM)

[NBA Fan 1234]

Oh yeah forgot about the triangle.

Eh Rondo has had a down year but I think he is much more underrated currently. Much better player than what Knicks have now at PG and is one of the few guys that has genuine synergy with Melo imo.

Can make Porzingis life easier with pinpoint passes and lobs, can work good pick and pops with David West. Pretty good defensive player so you got a good 1 & 5 defensively holding things down for the present.

But yeah forgot about the illuminati triangle

I honestly think he's been on the downslide the since before this season (when he showed up only on national TV). He pounds the ball for HUGE chunks of the shot clock, is afraid to take jumpers, Carlisle couldn't implement him into the Mavs offense (and he's one of the top coaches in the NBA, especially on the offensive side), and he takes too many plays off defensively / takes too many risks.

It's an easy pass even without the triangle. The triangle just puts it over the top.

I think he's gotta be in a system where he can improvise more. I think he was still a pretty good player with the celtics, although his greatest season to date was a couple years ago in 2012 when he went completely nuts vs the Heat in the playoffs. Best statistical season was in 2012-2013 so I don't think he's done yet.

When he got traded to Dallas, Rondo was still regarded relatively highly and perception of him completely crashed as a Mav. I don't think Rondo is ever scared or afraid on the court, just was hesitant to do certain things on the Mavs. Don't think he really was given the right pieces to play around in Boston after the big 3 broke up either. I can see Rondo and Melo rejuvenating each other's careers and Rondo is turning 29 so it's not like age is a factor. Knicks are going to have a bunch of shooters and scorers but nobody to set the table...

Again I'd argue that Rondo is far superior to anything Knicks have at PG right now, he wants a short term deal and can be had for relatively cheap, so why not? (Assuming Phil can relax on the triangle concept to maximize talent on his roster)

Meh, I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. He seems to be useless when the ball is not in his hands. In a system predicated on ball movement and everyone being on the same page, having a ball dominant guard who can't play off ball (even though we are running more pick and rolls than previous triangle systems) won't work.

Even though people won't admit it, Calderon (and Galloway) are fine stop-gap point guards for the time being. There's no reason to open the bank for Rondo, IMO.

[Knicksfan1992]

I think the one thing that I see Phil doing which is a mistake is keeping Calderon. That's 7 million in a deep FA class that we could desperately use. Galloway can do the job Calderon can do for so much less. That 7 million might be the difference between Danny Green and no Danny Green

[FrazierVocab]

lets rape the pacers
hibbert and next year first for calderon
then sigh west and max butler....
grant
butler
melo
west
hibbert
cap space next year

Calm down. As of right now, we don't even have a #1 pick next year.

[LLA666]

that why we need to get one!!!

[throwbackewing33]

So I wasn't opposed to signing Monroe before drafting Porzingis. I figured we would sign a defensive minded PF to compliment Monroe at the 5. I looked at Monroe as a long term solution since he is only 25.
Although offensively Monroe and Porzingis would be a perfect inside-out frontcourt, defensively we could end up with a major roster flaw. Porzingis COULD develop into a roaming mobile rim protector but it's too early to tell.
I know the consensus on this board has always been against signing Monroe, but I would like to hear from you all how Porzingis changes your outlook on building our front court.

[throwbackewing33]

I would like to add that I now am a fan of short term deals for defensive minded vets to mix in with out younger players. West is old at 35 but for the right price, he would be a perfect mentor to our young guns. Taj Gibson would also be a nice target in a trade scenario.
I see Melo playing more at the 4 next year, so a Robin Lopez would also be a good signing with a wing like Carroll or Green.

[bklynstoops]

Phil, not even in 16 months has already increased our assets. Thanasis Antetokounmpo, cleathony early, louis laybyrie, galloway, hernangomez, grant, and Kris Porzingis..now we have a **** ton of cap space to work with, with a top notch scorer to build around. The play has been ugly, and Fisher's and Phil's report cards are incomplete but it takes time. Last year we had a dearth of talent for our system more than anything but I'm happy we are building towards something for the long run I don't feel deceived by Phil nor am I saying he's done a great job. I just see that he's laid a foundation towards building through the draft and developing players.

I'm curious about Thanasis and Early. It was a good thing they weren't exposed last year and hopefully had some time to adjust to a professional life. But it would be nice to see some growth this year if we're to believe that this organization is able and committed to developing talent.

[throwbackewing33]

Given what Phil had to start with, I'm very happy with what the Knicks are going forward. We all knew deep down that a complete tear down was necessary. Phil knows a quick fix approach would just continue the Knick way of doing business. He is looking big picture with the only goal of one day building a championship team.
We have flexibility. We have cap space. We have Melo for the present. And some nice young players for the future. If you take all the emotions of being a Knick fan out of the equation, we should all know that this is the proper way to build an elite team and culture.

[Mecca]

Reading the tea leaves

- Taj for Calderon and Thanisis

- Sign Monroe and Danny Green as well as bringing back Shved, Smith, Amundson, Thomas

PG: Grant - Galloway
SG: Green - Shved
SF - Melo - Early
PF - Taj - Porzingis - Thomas
C: Monroe - Smith - Amundson

Taj and Monroe are peanut butter and jelly. We'd have an elite rebounding team, and Taj and Monroe compliment each other perfectly offensively and defensively. Shved and Galloway are perfect off the bench, and I expect a Mirotic like contribution from Porzingis year one.

[E-Balla]

Reading the tea leaves

- Taj for Calderon and Thanisis

- Sign Monroe and Danny Green as well as bringing back Shved, Smith, Amundson, Thomas

PG: Grant - Galloway
SG: Green - Shved
SF - Melo - Early
PF - Taj - Porzingis - Thomas
C: Monroe - Smith - Amundson

Taj and Monroe are peanut butter and jelly. We'd have an elite rebounding team, and Taj and Monroe compliment each other perfectly offensively and defensively. Shved and Galloway are perfect off the bench, and I expect a Mirotic like contribution from Porzingis year one.

Who would ever even consider Taj for Thanasis and Calderon? You'd get hung up on halfway through the proposal.

[BKlutch]

Disclaimer: Warriors are the NBA champions, I am not saying the Knicks will become the NBA champions or replicate every step that happen BUT sh*t takes time and we are all done with the quick fix Layden/IT movements. Walsh and PJax though very different valued cap space but Phil IMO has shown he values assets a bit more, not necessarily worrying about "the summer of the max cat"

Ok so..warriors coming off 08 terrible season, injury riddled to their best player at the time, 23 year old monta. Older Vets, Maggette, Captain Jackson, Crawford (trade for Free candy), etc.. Get the #7 pick following year..This is years of drafting terribly as well (anthony randolph, brandan wright draft night trade, Patrick Cook O'Bryant")

2009 - curry (#7)..again terrible year and then took Udok in 2010.. Mind you, all these are top 10 lottery picks their burning through.

2011..Hire Mark Jackson,,, makes the trade for lee, signed D Wright, a trade with the nets which included a 2nd (becomes Green), and drafts Klay 11th

Disaster rookie head coach year, shortened season as well ...trade for bogut midseason along with SJax again (who they trade for a first who becomes Ezeli)

2012 offseason.. draft Barnes, Ezeli, and Green

2013.. traded assets for Iggy, sign speights

2014..Kerr..sign Livingston, barbosa

Took these **** missing on tons of missed lottery picks, finally getting it right/lucky in 2009..6 years later with 3 more lottery picks, some good late pick investments, and some good veteran pickups over time to become ultra competitive. Developed players right and hired the correct coach for the team. It's gonna take some time.

Phil, not even in 16 months has already increased our assets. Thanasis Antetokounmpo, cleathony early, louis laybyrie, galloway, hernangomez, grant, and Kris Porzingis..now we have a **** ton of cap space to work with, with a top notch scorer to build around. The play has been ugly, and Fisher's and Phil's report cards are incomplete but it takes time. Last year we had a dearth of talent for our system more than anything but I'm happy we are building towards something for the long run I don't feel deceived by Phil nor am I saying he's done a great job. I just see that he's laid a foundation towards building through the draft and developing players.

Thank you for having what so few of us do - PERSPECTIVE. Good post.

[Mecca]

Reading the tea leaves

- Taj for Calderon and Thanisis

- Sign Monroe and Danny Green as well as bringing back Shved, Smith, Amundson, Thomas

PG: Grant - Galloway
SG: Green - Shved
SF - Melo - Early
PF - Taj - Porzingis - Thomas
C: Monroe - Smith - Amundson

Taj and Monroe are peanut butter and jelly. We'd have an elite rebounding team, and Taj and Monroe compliment each other perfectly offensively and defensively. Shved and Galloway are perfect off the bench, and I expect a Mirotic like contribution from Porzingis year one.

Who would ever even consider Taj for Thanasis and Calderon? You'd get hung up on halfway through the proposal.

Taj just got off ankle surgery. Tajhad a down year. Taj has a pretty eh contract. Bulls have log jam at PF/C. Bulls need a backup PG in the worst way. Hoiberg likes to run. Calderon likes to push.

[AllanH20]

I think people are sleeping on Robin Lopez. He's very good defensively and does the dirty work. There was talk of the Blazers giving him 12+ per year earlier in the season because he was so important to their early success. In fact, they started to really struggle when he got injured. I don't think they will do that now that LMA is gone. I would rather give him 25 million over 3 years than maxing out DeAndre.

[E-Balla]

Reading the tea leaves

- Taj for Calderon and Thanisis

- Sign Monroe and Danny Green as well as bringing back Shved, Smith, Amundson, Thomas

PG: Grant - Galloway
SG: Green - Shved
SF - Melo - Early
PF - Taj - Porzingis - Thomas
C: Monroe - Smith - Amundson

Taj and Monroe are peanut butter and jelly. We'd have an elite rebounding team, and Taj and Monroe compliment each other perfectly offensively and defensively. Shved and Galloway are perfect off the bench, and I expect a Mirotic like contribution from Porzingis year one.

Who would ever even consider Taj for Thanasis and Calderon? You'd get hung up on halfway through the proposal.

Taj just got off ankle surgery. Tajhad a down year. Taj has a pretty eh contract. Bulls have log jam at PF/C. Bulls need a backup PG in the worst way. Hoiberg likes to run. Calderon likes to push.

He's only an 8 mil cap hit. He really didn't have a down year he was as good as ever when healthy he just missed a quarter of the season. Calderon on the other hand is making the same amount of money and he's way worse and Thanasis isn't an asset.