Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

[Riot Randolph]

In the end Melo will get bought out.

Keep dreaming ...

[GEOLINK]

In the end Melo will get bought out.

If Dolan would allow Melo to get bought out Phil Jackson would still be POBO right now.

[BrOnXKing1]

Under NO circumstance is Houston trading capella..

And under no circumstance, we should take Anderson

[NYKnicksFTW]

Under NO circumstance is Houston trading capella..

And under no circumstance, we should take Anderson

I'll take Anderson if they take Noah

[islanders11040]

i dont think anderson is that unmoveable but even if we do get get him we can use the stretch provision to get rid of him or noah. Next year is the last summer before KP gets his super max deal. it might even be more than the first time max for 4 year players if KP makes an all-nba team. we need to strike hard in free agency next year.

in 2 years KP will still have a smaller cap hold. So in 2 years is the year where we really need to strike FA hard. We can suck for 1 more year and get hopefully a top 5 pick next year. Then improve greatly in the 2018-2019 season and sign good FA's.

[islanders11040]

In the end Melo will get bought out.

u dont buy out Melo when there is a chance he opts out and his money comes of the books NEXT YEAR. a bunch of his friends will be FA next offseason.

[drekwins]

Ryan Anderson literally makes zero sense. The whole point of trading Melo wasn't just to trade him. We were hoping to get back something for him while improving our cap situation. Ryan Anderson is 29 and on the books for a year longer. Unless they are willing to add Gordon and scrubs for Noah, I'm not even listening to Anderson.

The following deal works in the Trade Checker:

Melo
Noah

For

Anderson
Gordon
Kelly
Long
Quarterman
Taylor

Even this, I'm not so sure of. So, if they're not even willing to do this, they can F off.

[Dantares]

i dont think anderson is that unmoveable but even if we do get get him we can use the stretch provision to get rid of him or noah. Next year is the last summer before KP gets his super max deal. it might even be more than the first time max for 4 year players if KP makes an all-nba team. we need to strike hard in free agency next year.

in 2 years KP will still have a smaller cap hold. So in 2 years is the year where we really need to strike FA hard. We can suck for 1 more year and get hopefully a top 5 pick next year. Then improve greatly in the 2018-2019 season and sign good FA's.

wait summer of 2019 kp gets his supermax right? so than that means 2018 is the year we have to strike.

[drekwins]

i dont think anderson is that unmoveable but even if we do get get him we can use the stretch provision to get rid of him or noah. Next year is the last summer before KP gets his super max deal. it might even be more than the first time max for 4 year players if KP makes an all-nba team. we need to strike hard in free agency next year.

in 2 years KP will still have a smaller cap hold. So in 2 years is the year where we really need to strike FA hard. We can suck for 1 more year and get hopefully a top 5 pick next year. Then improve greatly in the 2018-2019 season and sign good FA's.

I agree and I have been saying this over and over. All of our focus needs to be on the summer of 2019. We need to be careful and mindful of how every move affects that summer.

[Riot Randolph]

Ryan Anderson literally makes zero sense. The whole point of trading Melo wasn't just to trade him. We were hoping to get back something for him while improving our cap situation. Ryan Anderson is 29 and on the books for a year longer. Unless they are willing to add Gordon and scrubs for Noah, I'm not even listening to Anderson.

The following deal works in the Trade Checker:

Melo
Noah

For

Anderson
Gordon
Kelly
Long
Quarterman
Taylor

Even this, I'm not so sure of. So, if they're not even willing to do this, they can F off.

gordon is the exact prototype of player we used t trade for...he WILL get injured and WE will be furious

[SpikJagger]

wow melo might get a ring next year. Melo shoots like 45% on wide open 3-pointers the last few years, he's going to take advantage of all the double teams harden and cp3 draw.

Olympic Melo would be unleashed onto the league and the Knicks will be in the media again with another "one manes trash is another mans treasure" bullsh*t.

[NYKnicksFTW]

That's what my thinking is. Completely suck this year, get a top-5 pick (Doncic, Porter Jr., Ayton or Bamba) and then sign free agents. 2018 will be a great class, but we need to get out of Noah's deal.

PG - Frank
SG - (Doncic or FA)
SF - (Porter Jr. or FA)
PF - KP
C - Hernangomez


Now that's a nice core

[drekwins]

i dont think anderson is that unmoveable but even if we do get get him we can use the stretch provision to get rid of him or noah. Next year is the last summer before KP gets his super max deal. it might even be more than the first time max for 4 year players if KP makes an all-nba team. we need to strike hard in free agency next year.

in 2 years KP will still have a smaller cap hold. So in 2 years is the year where we really need to strike FA hard. We can suck for 1 more year and get hopefully a top 5 pick next year. Then improve greatly in the 2018-2019 season and sign good FA's.

wait summer of 2019 kp gets his supermax right? so than that means 2018 is the year we have to strike.

No, there's different levels of max's. Going into free agency, he will only have a cap hold of about 13 million. We can sign other free agents based off that 13 million number and then sign him last. This is what SA did with Kawhi to get LMA. Kawhi was the last to sign. Also, the supermax does not apply to him. Players with 0-6 years of experience are eligible for 25% of the salary cap number. Assuming a cap of 105M, that would put him at 26,250,000. However, the only relevant number at this time is his cap hold.

[Riot Randolph]

I'll take Ryan Anderson over another KP Melo poisoned year

[drekwins]

Ryan Anderson literally makes zero sense. The whole point of trading Melo wasn't just to trade him. We were hoping to get back something for him while improving our cap situation. Ryan Anderson is 29 and on the books for a year longer. Unless they are willing to add Gordon and scrubs for Noah, I'm not even listening to Anderson.

The following deal works in the Trade Checker:

Melo
Noah

For

Anderson
Gordon
Kelly
Long
Quarterman
Taylor

Even this, I'm not so sure of. So, if they're not even willing to do this, they can F off.

gordon is the exact prototype of player we used t trade for...he WILL get injured and WE will be furious

We don't need to keep him. His contract is pretty amazing. We would then be able to send him somewhere else.

[blanko]

Under NO circumstance is Houston trading capella..

And under no circumstance, we should take Anderson

we don't have a choice, we can try to flip anderson later. A stretch 4 is a valued commodity in the modern nba. We can't do anything with a stretched contract (if we buy out carmelo). The only way the salaries match is if Anderson is in the deal.

The knicks have no leverage.

The only other team Melo would agree to a trade to is Cleveland:
The cavs are not giving up Love for melo.
a cavs trade would require us taking tristan thompson - something i don't think Cleveland would do.

Again. the KNicks have no leverage

If we buy out carmelo, his cap hit would be $10.8 million for 5 years. We can not trade that cap hit. we can't do anythign with that cap hit. We can flip anderson for smaller more manageable contracts.

[chiefbocker]

as losg as the rockets pay for that, i really don´t care.

[blanko]

In the end Melo will get bought out.

if dolan was going to buy out 50 mil of melo's contract, he would not have fired phill and paid him 24 mil. Firing phil was dolan choosing between loosing 50 mil and 25 mil. My guess is that dolan had an understanding with melo, that melo would agree with a trade as long as phil got fired.

[Dantares]

in 2 years KP will still have a smaller cap hold. So in 2 years is the year where we really need to strike FA hard. We can suck for 1 more year and get hopefully a top 5 pick next year. Then improve greatly in the 2018-2019 season and sign good FA's.

wait summer of 2019 kp gets his supermax right? so than that means 2018 is the year we have to strike.

No, there's different levels of max's. Going into free agency, he will only have a cap hold of about 13 million. We can sign other free agents based off that 13 million number and then sign him last. This is what SA did with Kawhi to get LMA. Kawhi was the last to sign. Also, the supermax does not apply to him. Players with 0-6 years of experience are eligible for 25% of the salary cap number. Assuming a cap of 105M, that would put him at 26,250,000. However, the only relevant number at this time is his cap hold.

so you are saying he could be getting paid 26 million or more and only 13 million will count against the cap?

[GEOLINK]

wow melo might get a ring next year. Melo shoots like 45% on wide open 3-pointers the last few years, he's going to take advantage of all the double teams harden and cp3 draw.

Olympic Melo would be unleashed onto the league and the Knicks will be in the media again with another "one manes trash is another mans treasure" bullsh*t.

I'll be fine with it because Melo is finally winning and because we had no reason to keep him here anymore.